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Bill Nye Set to Debunk Tony Robbins-Style Hot Coal Walking With Hard Science
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Ubiquitous
2018-04-09 11:17:02 UTC
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Bill Nye is taking on pseudo-science in his new Netflix series “Bill
Nye Saves the World,” and that includes the big players in the field
like Tony Robbins.

In one episode, Nye and his team address the spiritual practice of
walking on burning hot coals. While people pay for retreats to learn
how to do this, Nye proves that it’s possible mostly with physics.

The episode features guest Donald Faison (“Scrubs”), who you can see
in the trailer attempting the feat.

“People will charge you $5,000 for a weekend where you learn to be
spiritually prepared to walk across wooden burning coals. You don’t
have to do that — you can just walk across wooden burning coals,”
Nye said in an interview with TheWrap.

Nye doesn’t specifically say whether he’s directly referring to
Robbins. However, the famous self-help guru holds a special three-
day event called “Unleash the Power Within,” which his website says
will help to “unlock and unleash the forces inside that can help you
break through any limit and create the quality of life you desire.”

This includes helping people to walk over hot coals, apparently.

Multiple big names have used Robbins’ program, including Hugh
Jackman, Melissa Ethridge and Maria Menounos, according to the
official website.

However, it is simple to walk over burning coals. As scary as it may
seem, basic physics makes it so a person doesn’t get burned.
According to David Willey at the University of Pittsburgh, the foot
is never in contact long enough to induce a burn, and the burning
wood that heats the coals is a good insulator and never heats up too
much.

That doesn’t mean walking on burning coals is harmless. Around 30 to
40 people were evaluated for injuries and at least five were
hospitalized after an incident at an “Unleash the Power Within”
event in Dallas, Texas, last June. However, Robbins claims it was a
miscommunication and nobody was injured.

[Umm, he does know that firewalking has been debunked a long tiome
ago, including on Penn and Teller's show, right?]
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anim8rfsk
2018-04-09 14:44:09 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Bill Nye is taking on pseudo-science
Oh, bitter irony

in his new Netflix series “Bill
Post by Ubiquitous
Nye Saves the World,” and that includes the big players in the field
like Tony Robbins.
And Bill Nye?
Post by Ubiquitous
In one episode, Nye and his team address the spiritual practice of
walking on burning hot coals. While people pay for retreats to learn
how to do this, Nye proves that it’s possible mostly with physics.
BULLSHIT! covered this years ago
Post by Ubiquitous
The episode features guest Donald Faison (“Scrubs”), who you can see
in the trailer attempting the feat.
“People will charge you $5,000 for a weekend where you learn to be
spiritually prepared to walk across wooden burning coals. You don’t
have to do that — you can just walk across wooden burning coals,”
Nye said in an interview with TheWrap.
Nye doesn’t specifically say whether he’s directly referring to
Robbins.
So this 'reporter' just lied earlier in the story. And Nye's a coward.

However, the famous self-help guru holds a special three-
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day event called “Unleash the Power Within,” which his website says
will help to “unlock and unleash the forces inside that can help you
break through any limit and create the quality of life you desire.”
This includes helping people to walk over hot coals, apparently.
Multiple big names have used Robbins’ program, including Hugh
Jackman, Melissa Ethridge and Maria Menounos, according to the
official website.
Maria Menounos is a big name?
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However, it is simple to walk over burning coals. As scary as it may
seem, basic physics makes it so a person doesn’t get burned.
According to David Willey at the University of Pittsburgh, the foot
is never in contact long enough to induce a burn, and the burning
wood that heats the coals is a good insulator and never heats up too
much.
That doesn’t mean walking on burning coals is harmless. Around 30 to
40 people were evaluated for injuries and at least five were
hospitalized after an incident at an “Unleash the Power Within”
event in Dallas, Texas, last June. However, Robbins claims it was a
miscommunication and nobody was injured.
[Umm, he does know that firewalking has been debunked a long tiome
ago, including on Penn and Teller's show, right?]
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Obveeus
2018-04-09 14:56:46 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Bill Nye is taking on pseudo-science
Oh, bitter irony
in his new Netflix series “Bill
Post by Ubiquitous
Nye Saves the World,” and that includes the big players in the field
like Tony Robbins.
And Bill Nye?
Post by Ubiquitous
In one episode, Nye and his team address the spiritual practice of
walking on burning hot coals. While people pay for retreats to learn
how to do this, Nye proves that it’s possible mostly with physics.
BULLSHIT! covered this years ago
Post by Ubiquitous
The episode features guest Donald Faison (“Scrubs”), who you can see
in the trailer attempting the feat.
“People will charge you $5,000 for a weekend where you learn to be
spiritually prepared to walk across wooden burning coals. You don’t
have to do that — you can just walk across wooden burning coals,”
Nye said in an interview with TheWrap.
Nye doesn’t specifically say whether he’s directly referring to
Robbins.
So this 'reporter' just lied earlier in the story. And Nye's a coward.
Aren't there lots of people doing this fire walking self help stuff?

For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
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However, the famous self-help guru holds a special three-
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day event called “Unleash the Power Within,” which his website says
will help to “unlock and unleash the forces inside that can help you
break through any limit and create the quality of life you desire.”
This includes helping people to walk over hot coals, apparently.
Multiple big names have used Robbins’ program, including Hugh
Jackman, Melissa Ethridge and Maria Menounos, according to the
official website.
Maria Menounos is a big name?
IMDB has 27 acting credits for her...though she plays a character named
after herself in many of them. She also has 135 credits in the 'self'
section of IMDB. I pretty much only know her as the AMC theaters 'First
Look' host who runs ads for various TV shows and music before the real
film trailers start...before the actual film starts at a theater.
anim8rfsk
2018-04-09 15:26:03 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Bill Nye is taking on pseudo-science
Oh, bitter irony
in his new Netflix series “Bill
Post by Ubiquitous
Nye Saves the World,” and that includes the big players in the field
like Tony Robbins.
And Bill Nye?
Post by Ubiquitous
In one episode, Nye and his team address the spiritual practice of
walking on burning hot coals. While people pay for retreats to learn
how to do this, Nye proves that it’s possible mostly with physics.
BULLSHIT! covered this years ago
Post by Ubiquitous
The episode features guest Donald Faison (“Scrubs”), who you can see
in the trailer attempting the feat.
“People will charge you $5,000 for a weekend where you learn to be
spiritually prepared to walk across wooden burning coals. You don’t
have to do that — you can just walk across wooden burning coals,”
Nye said in an interview with TheWrap.
Nye doesn’t specifically say whether he’s directly referring to
Robbins.
So this 'reporter' just lied earlier in the story. And Nye's a coward.
Aren't there lots of people doing this fire walking self help stuff?
Yep
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For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
And sweaty foot bottoms are a good insulator.
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However, the famous self-help guru holds a special three-
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day event called “Unleash the Power Within,” which his website says
will help to “unlock and unleash the forces inside that can help you
break through any limit and create the quality of life you desire.”
This includes helping people to walk over hot coals, apparently.
Multiple big names have used Robbins’ program, including Hugh
Jackman, Melissa Ethridge and Maria Menounos, according to the
official website.
Maria Menounos is a big name?
IMDB has 27 acting credits for her...though she plays a character named
after herself in many of them. She also has 135 credits in the 'self'
section of IMDB. I pretty much only know her as the AMC theaters 'First
Look' host who runs ads for various TV shows and music before the real
film trailers start...before the actual film starts at a theater.
I know her, but I certainly wouldn't call her a big name. She was at
that illegal party that miserable lying bitch Holly Robinson threw three
houses down from Mom's. The local fishwrap reporter said she stood in a
corner complaining what a lousy party that miserable lying bitch Holly
Robinson threw the whole time. :)
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Ed Stasiak
2018-04-09 15:44:57 UTC
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anim8rfsk
Obveeus
For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
And sweaty foot bottoms are a good insulator.
I remember reading somewhere that the moisture on the bottom
of the feet instantly turns to steam and this protects the skin from
the heat, as the feet are only in contact with the coals for a fraction
of a second?
anim8rfsk
2018-04-09 16:03:19 UTC
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anim8rfsk
Obveeus
For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
And sweaty foot bottoms are a good insulator.
I remember reading somewhere that the moisture on the bottom
of the feet instantly turns to steam and this protects the skin from
the heat, as the feet are only in contact with the coals for a fraction
of a second?
Yeah, I recall that as well. As well as the aforementioned 'not that
hot' which is why they only record it in the dark; in the daytime
there's no glow at all, it just looks like you're walking on gray ash.
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moviePig
2018-04-09 16:14:11 UTC
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anim8rfsk
Obveeus
For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
And sweaty foot bottoms are a good insulator.
I remember reading somewhere that the moisture on the bottom
of the feet instantly turns to steam and this protects the skin from
the heat, as the feet are only in contact with the coals for a fraction
of a second?
Seems like it might have to do with 'heat of vaporization', wherein the
conversion from water to vapor absorbs much of the coal's energy, as
well as holding the temperature constant until the conversion's
complete. Otoh, steam, even at 212F isn't especially comfy...
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Ubiquitous
2018-04-09 18:01:17 UTC
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anim8rfsk
Obveeus
For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
And sweaty foot bottoms are a good insulator.
I remember reading somewhere that the moisture on the bottom
of the feet instantly turns to steam and this protects the skin from
the heat, as the feet are only in contact with the coals for a fraction
of a second?
Pretty much, yes. I'm surprised people ares till doing firewalks, to be
honest.
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anim8rfsk
2018-04-09 18:15:56 UTC
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anim8rfsk
Obveeus
For that matter, haven't there been lots of debunkings of this feat
having anything to do with mind power or higher states or, well,
anything other than simply the fact that 'hot coals' aren't actually
that hot on the surface?
And sweaty foot bottoms are a good insulator.
I remember reading somewhere that the moisture on the bottom
of the feet instantly turns to steam and this protects the skin from
the heat, as the feet are only in contact with the coals for a fraction
of a second?
Pretty much, yes. I'm surprised people ares till doing firewalks, to be
honest.
It's no more stupid than paying Tony Robbins or listening to Bill Nye.
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Bruce S
2018-04-09 15:40:08 UTC
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Bill Nye is taking on pseudo-science
Oh, bitter irony
in his new Netflix series “Bill
Post by Ubiquitous
Nye Saves the World,” and that includes the big players in the field
like Tony Robbins.
And Bill Nye?
LOL. I've heard of Tony Robbins, but don't really know a lot about him.
Bill Nye, OTOH, I know of very well as a big player in the field of
pseudo-science. Still, I give him credit as entertainment for kids.
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Post by Ubiquitous
In one episode, Nye and his team address the spiritual practice of
walking on burning hot coals. While people pay for retreats to learn
how to do this, Nye proves that it’s possible mostly with physics.
BULLSHIT! covered this years ago
While it may make them blush to hear it, and it's a low bar anyway, P&T
are far more respectable as debunkers of pseudo-science than Bill is.
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The episode features guest Donald Faison (“Scrubs”), who you can see
in the trailer attempting the feat.
“People will charge you $5,000 for a weekend where you learn to be
spiritually prepared to walk across wooden burning coals. You don’t
have to do that — you can just walk across wooden burning coals,”
Nye said in an interview with TheWrap.
Nye doesn’t specifically say whether he’s directly referring to
Robbins.
So this 'reporter' just lied earlier in the story. And Nye's a coward.
It's typical of a reporter to do that, just to get attention.
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However, the famous self-help guru holds a special three-
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day event called “Unleash the Power Within,” which his website says
will help to “unlock and unleash the forces inside that can help you
break through any limit and create the quality of life you desire.”
This includes helping people to walk over hot coals, apparently.
Multiple big names have used Robbins’ program, including Hugh
Jackman, Melissa Ethridge and Maria Menounos, according to the
official website.
Maria Menounos is a big name?
I've never heard of her.
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However, it is simple to walk over burning coals. As scary as it may
seem, basic physics makes it so a person doesn’t get burned.
According to David Willey at the University of Pittsburgh, the foot
is never in contact long enough to induce a burn, and the burning
wood that heats the coals is a good insulator and never heats up too
much.
That doesn’t mean walking on burning coals is harmless. Around 30 to
40 people were evaluated for injuries and at least five were
hospitalized after an incident at an “Unleash the Power Within”
event in Dallas, Texas, last June. However, Robbins claims it was a
miscommunication and nobody was injured.
I once managed to get the bottoms of both feet blistered from walking on
hot concrete. No burning coals were needed. It was severe enough that
the blisters covered about 90% of the width of each foot. Fortunately
for me, the same reason I didn't notice the burning in the first place
(peripheral neuropathy) prevented the blisters from hurting. I was
scheduled to ride a bicycle over 70 miles the next day, but decided that
might not be a good idea.
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[Umm, he does know that firewalking has been debunked a long tiome
ago, including on Penn and Teller's show, right?]
Ubiquitous
2018-04-09 17:59:03 UTC
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Bill Nye is taking on pseudo-science in his new Netflix series “Bill
Nye Saves the World,” and that includes the big players in the field
like Tony Robbins.
Oh, bitter irony
And Bill Nye?
Heh.
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In one episode, Nye and his team address the spiritual practice of
walking on burning hot coals. While people pay for retreats to learn
how to do this, Nye proves that it’s possible mostly with physics.
BULLSHIT! covered this years ago
They weren't the first, either.
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RichA
2018-04-10 00:56:25 UTC
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The debunking of this was done DECADES AGO (Amazing Randi) so f--- off, engineer pretend scientist.
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