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FAKE NEWS: CBS Makes Up Bogus Term To Describe Ammo Used In Las Vegas Shooting
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David Fritz
2017-10-08 07:37:52 UTC
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CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was used by the
Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling the ammunition he used
“automatic rounds.”

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) confirmed to
the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as “automatic rounds,” which
contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF rules.

CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns Stephen
Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly
legal under ATF rules.”

CBS News ?@CBSNews
While the guns Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds,
they were perfectly legal under ATF rules http://cbsn.ws/2hL3NDZ
10:00 AM - Oct 4, 2017
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“Yet while the guns that Stephen Paddock used to shoot more than 500
people in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly legal,
according to rules established by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
and Explosives (ATF),” the CBS report falsely stated.

CBS later updated their report but they failed to mention their correction
anywhere in the article.

2nd Amendment advocates slammed the liberal network for their bogus
“automatic rounds” claim over social media:

Sebastian Gorka DrG ?@SebGorka
"automatic rounds??"

Yet again @CBSNews demonstrates they know nothing about the subject they
write on. https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/915622557306548224 …
12:50 PM - Oct 4, 2017
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Dana Loesch ?@DLoesch
TH is an “automatic round?”
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/915622557306548224 …
2:33 PM - Oct 4, 2017
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Brandon Darby ?@brandondarby
WTF is an “automatic round”?
https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/915622557306548224 …
11:27 AM - Oct 4, 2017
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"automatic rounds"
Calling for an immediate ban on checkmarks expressing opinions on guns
until they figure out what the hell is going on
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/915622557306548224 …
11:30 AM - Oct 4, 2017
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PIBB
2017-10-08 11:09:31 UTC
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Post by David Fritz
CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was
used by the Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling the
ammunition he used “automatic rounds.”
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)
confirmed to the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as
“automatic rounds,” which contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF
rules.
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns
Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they
were perfectly legal under ATF rules.”
While the guns Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic
rounds, they were perfectly legal under ATF rules
Isn't the report saying the rounds were fired automatically?

The point it makes is that the guns were legal but could be converted
to fire automatically.
!Jones
2017-10-08 13:13:07 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:09:31 +0100, in talk.politics.guns PIBB
Post by PIBB
Isn't the report saying the rounds were fired automatically?
The point it makes is that the guns were legal but could be converted
to fire automatically.
Oh, these people love to pettifog about trivial matters of
terminology. What the writer obviously meant was that the ammunition
was rimless <YAWN>.

The point is that one shooter killed something like 60 people and
wounded 500 more or so in a period of five to seven minutes. If it
were one isolated incident, it certainly wouldn't be acceptable;
however, the only thing unusual about it was that a single shooter was
able to achieve a firing position from which he could do great damage.
Otherwise, it was just another day at the office (heck, on an average
day in the US, we *usually* kill that many and half again more) ...
but, let's don't talk about *that*; let's argue about what to call the
bullets.

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Sgt. Rock
2017-10-08 14:50:02 UTC
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The point is that one shooter killed something like 60 people
Yes he did, now FUCK OFF with our gun rights, you TRAITOR!
Sgt. Rock
2017-10-08 14:51:38 UTC
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let's argue about what to call the
bullets.
Jones
Let's have someone engrave your NAME on them next time, traitor!
RD Sandman
2017-10-08 15:35:32 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:09:31 +0100, in talk.politics.guns PIBB
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Isn't the report saying the rounds were fired automatically?
The point it makes is that the guns were legal but could be converted
to fire automatically.
Oh, these people love to pettifog about trivial matters of
terminology. What the writer obviously meant was that the ammunition
was rimless <YAWN>.
The point is that one shooter killed something like 60 people and
wounded 500 more or so in a period of five to seven minutes. If it
were one isolated incident, it certainly wouldn't be acceptable;
however, the only thing unusual about it was that a single shooter was
able to achieve a firing position from which he could do great damage.
Otherwise, it was just another day at the office (heck, on an average
day in the US, we *usually* kill that many and half again more) ...
Bullshit. You have to include suicides to get anywhere near that number
and suicides involve willing participants. Approximately 60% of the
deaths by firearm are suicides.
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but, let's don't talk about *that*; let's argue about what to call the
bullets.
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!Jones
2017-10-08 17:42:38 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 10:35:32 -0500, in talk.politics.guns RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
Bullshit. You have to include suicides to get anywhere near that number
and suicides involve willing participants. Approximately 60% of the
deaths by firearm are suicides.
Approximately 60% of the firearm deaths are self-inflicted; it is
incomprehensible to me how you say that these don't count. As
Kellerman's work showed: if your weapon kills someone, that "someone"
will probably be *you*!

Neither you nor anyone else has a clue how many of the self-inflicted
gunshot wounds are suicides and how many are the result of simple
incompetence and/or carelessness; either way, it's a GSW death and
counts.

My statement stands.

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Sgt. Rock
2017-10-08 17:49:17 UTC
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Neither you nor anyone else has a clue how many of the self-inflicted
gunshot wounds are suicides
As long as YOU become one, we do not care!
BTR1701
2017-10-08 15:02:53 UTC
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Post by David Fritz
CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was
used by the Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling the
ammunition he used “automatic rounds.”
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)
confirmed to the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as
“automatic rounds,” which contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF
rules.
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns
Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they
were perfectly legal under ATF rules.”
While the guns Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic
rounds, they were perfectly legal under ATF rules
Isn't the report saying the rounds were fired automatically?
The point it makes is that the guns were legal but could be converted
to fire automatically.
No, CBS is clearly describing the ammunition, not the gun, and saying the
ammunition was legal under ATF regs.

They're completely full of shit. How hard would it be for these effete
liberals who clearly know nothing about this subject to hire a firearms
expert to vet their stupidity when they need to report on it?
trotsky
2017-10-08 17:41:02 UTC
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Post by David Fritz
CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was
used by the Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling the
ammunition he used “automatic rounds.”
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)
confirmed to the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as
“automatic rounds,” which contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF
rules.
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns
Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they
were perfectly legal under ATF rules.”
While the guns Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic
rounds, they were perfectly legal under ATF rules
Isn't the report saying the rounds were fired automatically?
The point it makes is that the guns were legal but could be converted
to fire automatically.
No, CBS is clearly describing the ammunition, not the gun, and saying the
ammunition was legal under ATF regs.
They're completely full of shit. How hard would it be for these effete
liberals who clearly know nothing about this subject to hire a firearms
expert to vet their stupidity when they need to report on it?
So true. Who wouldn't want to be more knowledgeable like the right wing
guys committing the mass killings?
Sgt. Rock
2017-10-08 17:48:42 UTC
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the right wing guys committing the mass killings?
Paddock was a Dem Jew, you LIAR!
max headroom
2017-10-08 18:38:53 UTC
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They're completely full of shit. How hard would it be for these effete
liberals who clearly know nothing about this subject to hire a firearms
expert to vet their stupidity when they need to report on it?
So true. Who wouldn't want to be more knowledgeable like the right wing
guys committing the mass killings?
Who? A pinkie who revels in his ignorance.

RD Sandman
2017-10-08 15:30:54 UTC
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Post by David Fritz
CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was
used by the Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling
the
Post by PIBB
Post by David Fritz
ammunition he used “automatic rounds.”
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)
confirmed to the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as
“automatic rounds,” which contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF
rules.
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns
Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds,
they
Post by PIBB
Post by David Fritz
were perfectly legal under ATF rules.”
While the guns Stephen Paddock used in Las Vegas fired
automatic
Post by PIBB
Post by David Fritz
rounds, they were perfectly legal under ATF rules
Isn't the report saying the rounds were fired automatically?
The point it makes is that the guns were legal but could be
converted
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to fire automatically.
No, if that occurred then the gun would come under the firearms
acts of 1934 and 1986. All a bumpstock does is allow the
shooter to hold his trigger finger stiff and let the gun's
recoil actuate the trigger for the next rounds.
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2017-10-08 12:32:15 UTC
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Yet while the guns that Stephen Paddock used to shoot more than 500
people in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly legal,
according to rules established by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
and Explosives (ATF),” the CBS report falsely stated.
You clowns will talk about everything except the problem.
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2017-10-08 15:36:27 UTC
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Post by David Fritz
Yet while the guns that Stephen Paddock used to shoot more than 500
people in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly
legal, according to rules established by the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF),” the CBS report falsely
stated.
You clowns will talk about everything except the problem.
What exactly do YOU see as the problem and what should be done to fix it?
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2017-10-08 15:51:50 UTC
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Yet while the guns that Stephen Paddock used to shoot more than 500
people in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly
legal, according to rules established by the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF),” the CBS report falsely
stated.
You clowns will talk about everything except the problem.
What exactly do YOU see as the problem and what should be done to fix it?
In an ideal society, how much personal destructive power should be
available to the common individual? If not 'zero', then Las Vegas-like
events can be seen as the occasional cost of doing business.
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2017-10-08 16:06:39 UTC
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You clowns will talk about everything except the problem.
What exactly do YOU see as the problem and what should be done to fix it?
I'd Tell You, but Then I'd Have to Kill this post later, and you don't really want to know anyway, but here is a clue: Nemesis

https://www.google.com/search?q=Chalmers+Johnson+Nemesis&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS712US712&oq=Chalmers+Johnson+Nemesis


Yeah, I know, makes no sense, it's not logical or rational, but I assure you, if Paddock's motivation involves rage against US foreign policy, you will never hear about it on the MSM.



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FPP
2017-10-08 12:37:19 UTC
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CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was used by the
Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling the ammunition he used
“automatic rounds.”
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) confirmed to
the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as “automatic rounds,” which
contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF rules.
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns Stephen
Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly
legal under ATF rules.”
So you're taking a simple screwup and blowing it out of all proportion,
instead of addressing why 500 people got shot?

CBS was obviously commenting on the bump stock's ability to mimic a
fully automatic weapon.
Yeah, you get right on that semantic error while they clean up the blood
and bury the bodies.
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max headroom
2017-10-08 15:01:47 UTC
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Post by David Fritz
CBS made up a bogus term to describe the ammunition that was used by the
Las Vegas shooter during the rampage – calling the ammunition he used
“automatic rounds.”
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) confirmed to
the Daily Wire that there is no such thing as “automatic rounds,” which
contradicts CBS’s claim about ATF rules.
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns Stephen
Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly
legal under ATF rules.”
So you're taking a simple screwup and blowing it out of all proportion,
instead of addressing why 500 people got shot?..
Garbage in, garbage out. The electorate depends on the press to keep it informed so it can vote
smartly.

Sloppy writing betrays sloppy thinking. Either CBS's writers are sloppy (probable) or the emotional
tilt is to imply that there was some sort of terrible mistake made in ruling these guns legal, and
IT MUST BE REMEDIED!
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-08 15:31:01 UTC
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FPP
David Fritz
CBS tweeted a link to their report, saying, “While the guns Stephen
Paddock used in Las Vegas fired automatic rounds, they were perfectly
legal under ATF rules.”
So you're taking a simple screwup and blowing it out of all proportion,
instead of addressing why 500 people got shot?
“Simple screwup”? No, this is just another example of the lies spewed
by the fake news Mainstream Media to push gun control, just as BTR1701
shows in another thread, where CNN used an animation of a conventional
AR (with a silencer and grenade launcher…) to represent a bump fire stock.

It’s all about confusing the issue and making logical discussion impossible,
just as the MSM insists on lumping suicides with murders, claiming criminals
get their guns from gun shows or mom & pop gun stores, making irrelevant
comparisons with the U.S. and X country, etc.

The goal is to avoid an honest discussion of the issue, which the anti-gun
fundies know they can’t win, thus the focus by the MSM on hysteria, twisted
statistics and out-right lies because when the foundation of your belief is
that inanimate objects _cause_ crime, you’ve nowhere to go but down.
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