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Killer Women - Did ABC Skip 1 or 2 Episodes?
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Lord Vader III
2014-02-24 04:11:50 UTC
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We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.

LVIII
Ian J. Ball
2014-02-24 04:18:07 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women
and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff
that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going
to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season
finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes.
I know they definitely skipped at least one.
Almost certainly, yes - they skipped at least one, and probably two episodes.

EpGuides.com confirms that ABC only aired 6 out 8 episodes.
It doesn't say in which order the episodes were supposed to be shown in, however.

Still, I'm almost certain that ABC skipped two in between "In and Out" and "Daughter of the Alamo" (the most recent one).
David Johnston
2014-02-24 04:20:17 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the
"previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet.
I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the
6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been
a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2
episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
Well, they went straight from the guy who moonlighting getting pulled to
his already having been used in an undercover operation that well along.
Adam H. Kerman
2014-02-24 05:04:23 UTC
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Post by David Johnston
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the
"previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet.
I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the
6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been
a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2
episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
Well, they went straight from the guy who moonlighting getting pulled to
his already having been used in an undercover operation that well along.
. . . and he was back in good graces with his wife, and Six had broken
up with Riley in one of the skipped episodes.

The final murder was lame, as was the resolution of the divorce plot.
Hunter
2014-02-25 01:48:15 UTC
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Post by David Johnston
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the
"previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet.
I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the
6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been
a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2
episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
Well, they went straight from the guy who moonlighting getting pulled to
his already having been used in an undercover operation that well along.
----
Exactly. They did skip an episode. I felt a gap in between the two latest
episodes. They went from the episode with the murdered basketball star to the
latest one where Molly had to work with the retired dinosaur Ranger and Molly
finally revealing her abuse at the hand of her husband. In that episode's
"previously on..." showed Molly with wounds on her apparently beaten by her
husband.

What's more, ABC has canceled the show:

http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa

God, I wonder if Tricia Helfer will ever get a successful show. Every show she
has had a role on as a regular since "Battlestar Galactica" left the air has
failed.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Robin Miller
2014-02-24 05:20:56 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
It appears that they skipped one, "Demons," according to this article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episode-switch-and-cancellation

http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa

The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
episodes filmed:

http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/

Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.

--Robin
BTR1701
2014-02-24 05:59:17 UTC
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Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episod
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.

They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
anim8rFSK
2014-02-24 08:16:43 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale.
Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-epis
od
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
Well, here's an example that may or may not be on point.

A friend of mine sold a comic strip he'd created to FOX animation. The
contract, which I told him not to sign, paid him X thousands of dollars
per episode - when the episode aired.

They produced them, and shelved them, and they've never seen the light
of day, and he's never been paid a dime.

I don't know how many levels of payments get involved in projects like
this, but if it costs them money to air it, they likely won't.

Another thing is, it's a no-win scenario for the exec in charge. If
people say THIS IS CRAP the next question is 'why the hell did you make
this in the first place' and if people say THIS IS GREAT the next
question is 'why the hell didn't you air this?'

Studio accountants have this weird mentality where only costs count;
revenue doesn't. So if it cost them $10k in additional fees to put it
on line, and it brought in $20k in ad revenue, you and I would say it
was $10k in the black, but studio accountants would say it was $10k in
the red.
--
Wait - are you saying that ClodReamer was wrong, or lying?
David Johnston
2014-02-24 08:21:21 UTC
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Post by anim8rFSK
Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale.
Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-epis
od
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
Well, here's an example that may or may not be on point.
A friend of mine sold a comic strip he'd created to FOX animation. The
contract, which I told him not to sign, paid him X thousands of dollars
per episode - when the episode aired.
They produced them, and shelved them, and they've never seen the light
of day, and he's never been paid a dime.
I don't know how many levels of payments get involved in projects like
this, but if it costs them money to air it, they likely won't.
Another thing is, it's a no-win scenario for the exec in charge. If
people say THIS IS CRAP the next question is 'why the hell did you make
this in the first place' and if people say THIS IS GREAT the next
question is 'why the hell didn't you air this?'
Studio accountants have this weird mentality where only costs count;
revenue doesn't. So if it cost them $10k in additional fees to put it
on line, and it brought in $20k in ad revenue, you and I would say it
was $10k in the black, but studio accountants would say it was $10k in
the red.
Wouldn't that depend on what the alternative would bring in?
BTR1701
2014-02-24 17:12:38 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale.
Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-ep
is
od
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
Well, here's an example that may or may not be on point.
A friend of mine sold a comic strip he'd created to FOX animation. The
contract, which I told him not to sign, paid him X thousands of dollars
per episode - when the episode aired.
They produced them, and shelved them, and they've never seen the light
of day, and he's never been paid a dime.
Ah, but in this case they wouldn't be airing the show. A download isn't
an airing.
Post by anim8rFSK
Studio accountants have this weird mentality where only costs count;
revenue doesn't. So if it cost them $10k in additional fees to put it
on line, and it brought in $20k in ad revenue, you and I would say it
was $10k in the black, but studio accountants would say it was $10k in
the red.
Yep, and RETURN OF THE JEDI still hasn't made any money according to the
Hollywood accounts. Darth Vader is still waiting to be paid.
Dimensional Traveler
2014-02-24 21:58:45 UTC
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Post by anim8rFSK
Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale.
Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-ep
is
od
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
Well, here's an example that may or may not be on point.
A friend of mine sold a comic strip he'd created to FOX animation. The
contract, which I told him not to sign, paid him X thousands of dollars
per episode - when the episode aired.
They produced them, and shelved them, and they've never seen the light
of day, and he's never been paid a dime.
Ah, but in this case they wouldn't be airing the show. A download isn't
an airing.
Post by anim8rFSK
Studio accountants have this weird mentality where only costs count;
revenue doesn't. So if it cost them $10k in additional fees to put it
on line, and it brought in $20k in ad revenue, you and I would say it
was $10k in the black, but studio accountants would say it was $10k in
the red.
Yep, and RETURN OF THE JEDI still hasn't made any money according to the
Hollywood accounts. Darth Vader is still waiting to be paid.
Heck, from what I've heard 'Gone With the Wind' is still losing the
studio money.
--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.
Hunter
2014-02-27 03:20:10 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episod
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
----
Not to long ago-and I am talking about a year ago-failed series would get a
burn off. "Zero Hour" did, hopefully "Killer Women" will also get one. "The
Assets" to.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Dimensional Traveler
2014-02-27 06:48:34 UTC
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Post by Hunter
Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episod
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
----
Not to long ago-and I am talking about a year ago-failed series would get a
burn off. "Zero Hour" did, hopefully "Killer Women" will also get one. "The
Assets" to.
With only two episodes to "burn off", it seems unlikely IMO.
--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.
Hunter
2014-03-01 00:26:24 UTC
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In article <530edfbd$0$52806$***@news.sonic.net>, ***@sonic.net
says...
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Hunter
Post by BTR1701
Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episod
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
----
Not to long ago-and I am talking about a year ago-failed series would get a
burn off. "Zero Hour" did, hopefully "Killer Women" will also get one. "The
Assets" to.
With only two episodes to "burn off", it seems unlikely IMO.
----
I would like to think it would be more likely, especially as a peace offering
to the fans after they screwed up so badly.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Dimensional Traveler
2014-03-01 06:21:32 UTC
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Post by Robin Miller
Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously
on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show
was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired.
This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone
know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely
skipped at least one.
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episod
e-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
When stuff like this happens, I don't understand why the networks don't
at least put the unaired episodes up for download on services like
iTunes.
They went to all the expense to make the damn things. Even if they only
make a small amount of revenue back from the downloads, that's more than
they'd get just putting them up on a shelf somewhere unseen.
----
Not to long ago-and I am talking about a year ago-failed series would get a
burn off. "Zero Hour" did, hopefully "Killer Women" will also get one. "The
Assets" to.
With only two episodes to "burn off", it seems unlikely IMO.
----
I would like to think it would be more likely, especially as a peace offering
to the fans after they screwed up so badly.
If the network even thinks of an inkling that the network screwed up,
the immediate reaction will be to burn and bury the evidence and deny
the show ever existed. :)

I think the best you can hope for is ABC offering the missing two
episodes on their own website but I'm not counting on it. Even if they
do they may not even announce it. Of course, all this presumes that
both episodes actually exist. IIRC the change from 8 episodes to 6 was
announced as a reduction in the episode order. I.E. the network telling
the production company "don't bother even filming more than 6".
'Demons' may have been finished or it may have been in the middle of
production (as they had footage for a "previously on" intro) but I don't
give 'Queen Bee' as good a chance.

But its been proven many times that nothing human can understand the
thinking of a TV Executive so who knows.
--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.
Hunter
2014-02-26 13:07:58 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
http://www.examiner.com/article/abc-receives-backlash-over-killer-women-episode-switch-and-cancellation
http://tinyurl.com/mkbhwsa
The other episode not shown was "Queen Bee." Here is a list of the eight
http://www.epguides.com/KillerWomen/
Online comments suggest that "Demons" was episode number 6, "Daughter of
the Alamo" (the last one broadcast) was number 7, and Queen Bee was
number 8.
--Robin
----
Yeah I found the top link way after you did (came to the thread late and didn't
read your reply before that). I hope ABC will put on Demand the episodes they
didn't show if not burn it them of on Saturday.

Incidently, I haven't seen anything about "The Assets" regarding if they will
burn off the remaining episodes. I hope they do. They did for "Zero Hour" and
that had disappeared after about three episodes.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Hunter
2014-02-24 22:26:58 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
----
I had the same experience. I went back to the on demand listing and it didn't
seem to have missed an episode, but I still have the feeling that a episode was
skipped.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
David
2014-02-24 23:13:26 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
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I had the same experience. I went back to the on demand listing and it didn't
seem to have missed an episode, but I still have the feeling that a episode was
skipped.
They cut "Killer Women"s run short. Originally "Mind Games" was set to
premiere March 11th. If not for the Olympics it would've been on even
sooner.
r***@yahoo.com
2014-03-24 17:43:41 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
We just watched the February 18 episode of Killer Women and the "previously on" segment showed tons of stuff that hasn't aired yet. I know the show was only going to be 8 episodes long and this was the 6th episode aired. This last episode kinda seemed it could have been a season finale. Anyone know for sure if ABC skipped 1 or 2 episodes. I know they definitely skipped at least one.
LVIII
Those two missing episodes have been up loaded to HULU Plus.

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