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2018-02-14 16:08:21 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman

If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.

Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
Your Name
2018-02-14 20:34:13 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game of
Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi". They're
"fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed garbage as well.

The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably others.
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2018-02-14 23:02:54 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game of
Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi". They're
"fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably others.
If you read the actual article, the author says that for the sake of simplicity, he is lumping together hard-core space series, fantasy, time-travel, altered history and paranormal series into the "sci-fi" category. And he did mention Killjoys. But not The Orville.
Ian J. Ball
2018-02-15 03:10:49 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game of
Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi". They're
"fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably others.
"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't renewed.
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2018-02-15 04:00:03 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game of
Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi". They're
"fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably others.
"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't renewed.
"The Librarians" as well if they're going to include fantasy shows.
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2018-02-15 06:19:17 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen
Sci-Fi Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series
that, ever since its debut in 2011, every other channel has
been trying to duplicate (both in terms of ambitious
world-building and global audience), then the best
representations of the genre arguably lead through Netflix's
Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014), Starz's
Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica
Jones (2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015),
Syfy's The Expanse and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's
Stranger Things, Luke Cage and Travelers (2016), HBO's
Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's Legion (2017),
CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams
(2018) and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018),
which was released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your
personal mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive
collection of series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game
of Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi".
They're "fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed
garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably
others.
"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't
renewed.
"The Librarians" as well if they're going to include fantasy
shows.
You'd have to include Happy!, too. If you dare.
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

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Lynn McGuire
2018-02-17 02:45:29 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen
Sci-Fi Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series
that, ever since its debut in 2011, every other channel has
been trying to duplicate (both in terms of ambitious
world-building and global audience), then the best
representations of the genre arguably lead through Netflix's
Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014), Starz's
Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica
Jones (2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015),
Syfy's The Expanse and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's
Stranger Things, Luke Cage and Travelers (2016), HBO's
Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's Legion (2017),
CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams
(2018) and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018),
which was released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your
personal mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive
collection of series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game
of Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi".
They're "fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed
garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably
others.
"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't
renewed.
"The Librarians" as well if they're going to include fantasy
shows.
You'd have to include Happy!, too. If you dare.
Yup. Although that goes all the way to the Fantasy Freak category.

Lynn
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen
Sci-Fi Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series
that, ever since its debut in 2011, every other channel has
been trying to duplicate (both in terms of ambitious
world-building and global audience), then the best
representations of the genre arguably lead through
Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's
Jessica Jones (2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle
(2015), Syfy's The Expanse and The Magicians (2015),
Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and Travelers (2016),
HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's Legion
(2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017),
Starz's Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's
Electric Dreams (2018) and, most recently, Netflix's
Altered Carbon (2018), which was released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and
your personal mileage varying on this group — it's an
impressive collection of series, with most getting better
as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game
of Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi".
They're "fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and
over-sexed garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably
others.
"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't
renewed.
"The Librarians" as well if they're going to include fantasy
shows.
You'd have to include Happy!, too. If you dare.
Yup. Although that goes all the way to the Fantasy Freak
category.
And, let's be honest, out the other side into a special category
of its own. That show make H R Puffenstuff look like Mr. Rogers.
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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2018-02-16 23:30:18 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game of
Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi". They're
"fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed garbage as well.
The list missed 'Killjoys' and 'The Orville', and probably others.
"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't renewed.
I've only now gotten around to watching the recorded final season and
just seen the silly time-loop episode. If they've already reached the
"run out of sensible ideas stage" and are resorting to this kind of
laziness, then it's probably better that it was cancelled. :-(
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2018-02-22 02:44:29 UTC
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"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't renewed.
I've only now gotten around to watching the recorded final season and
just seen the silly time-loop episode. If they've already reached the
"run out of sensible ideas stage" and are resorting to this kind of
laziness, then it's probably better that it was cancelled. :-(
Oh dear, and now a silly "go back in time to present day Earth"
episode. Plus of course the holodeck-style silliness with Sarah. They
really did run out of sensible ideas for this show. :-\
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2018-02-22 03:27:15 UTC
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"Dark Matter" should be on the list, even though it wasn't renewed.
I've only now gotten around to watching the recorded final season and
just seen the silly time-loop episode. If they've already reached the
"run out of sensible ideas stage" and are resorting to this kind of
laziness, then it's probably better that it was cancelled. :-(
Oh dear, and now a silly "go back in time to present day Earth"
episode. Plus of course the holodeck-style silliness with Sarah. They
really did run out of sensible ideas for this show. :-\
Or maybe they're just obsessed with ... ANOTHER show - an entirely different show.
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2018-02-22 03:28:02 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
I don't know about all of the others in that list, but 'Game of
Thrones' and 'The Magicians' definitely aren't "sci-fi". They're
"fantasy" ... and massively over-hyped and over-sexed garbage as well.
And too much Greco-Roman largess that was ultimately responsible is missing history wise. Stuff about anything similar to long-ago should at least have a story or two centered around the greek Corinth canal, at least!
Darrel Knutson
2018-02-15 05:11:13 UTC
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Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018)
Whoa, I've seen all of the episodes for the majority of these (10), at
least one full season of a few (4) and at least one or more episodes of
the rest (4).

I found The 100 and The Magicians have more to do with teenage angst and
fantasy than anything truly in the Sci-Fi realm.

Missing from this list is Iron Fist, which I would rank among the very
best.
Breezy Kildare
2018-02-17 18:47:09 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
is that Your Opinion or someone else's? ... do you ever get tired of posing other people's Opinions?
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2018-02-22 03:27:09 UTC
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Critic's Notebook: 'Altered Carbon' and the Small-Screen Sci-Fi
Renaissance
by Tim Goodman
If you start with HBO's Game of Thrones as the ur-series that, ever
since its debut in 2011, every other channel has been trying to
duplicate (both in terms of ambitious world-building and global
audience), then the best representations of the genre arguably lead
through Netflix's Black Mirror (2011), The CW's The 100 (2014),
Starz's Outlander (2014), AMC's Humans (2015), Netflix's Jessica Jones
(2015), Amazon's The Man in the High Castle (2015), Syfy's The Expanse
and The Magicians (2015), Netflix's Stranger Things, Luke Cage and
Travelers (2016), HBO's Westworld (2016), USA's Colony (2016), FX's
Legion (2017), CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery (2017), Starz's
Counterpart (2018), Amazon's Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams (2018)
and, most recently, Netflix's Altered Carbon (2018), which was
released on Feb. 2.
Even with plenty of decent sci-fi series left off — and your personal
mileage varying on this group — it's an impressive collection of
series, with most getting better as they age.
is that Your Opinion or someone else's? ... do you ever get tired of posing other
people's Opinions?
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