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2018-01-13 12:29:25 UTC
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Former President Barack Obama resurfaced on Friday and took a shot at Fox News viewers, saying they’re “living on a different planet” than people who consume mainstream media.

Obama made the remarks on the premiere of the new monthly Netflix series “My next guest needs no introduction with David Letterman,” which hit the streaming service on Friday morning.

Letterman then asked Obama what he considers the more dangerous threat to a democracy, the president demeaning the press or a foreign power sabotaging the voting process. Both options are clearly jabs at President Trump and Obama answered without mentioning the current president’s name.

“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”

The response got a big round of applause from the presumably liberal crowd at the City College of New York. Obama has a long history of taking shots at Fox News but the recent comment marks his first public attack on the network and its viewers since leaving the White House.

While Trump is often criticized for attacking the media and labeling CNN as “fake news,” Obama’s comment is a reminder that the White House and the press have sparred for decades. Obama once even accused Fox News of “attacking” his administration during an interview with CNBC."

Fox News viewers, working middle class tax payers, soldiers, cops and those who refused to drink
Obama's left wing Kool aid - we're all just part of the Democrat's big basket of "Deplorables". And we
were insulted, criticized and ridiculed daly during the eight long years of
Obama's reign. So it's good to see that Obama hasn't changed his low opinion of us.

But we haven't forgotten the damage he did to America. Leading from behind and letting ISIS
take over whole cities, slaughter thousands of people and kill Americans. Backing down
from his "red line" in Syria, letting the Russians invade the Ukraine and giving Iran
$150 Billion dollars to fund world wide terrorism as they shout "Death to America"
in the streets.

Not to mention what he did to the American economy is eight years:

Obama’s economy:
*$20 trillion national debt.
*Lowest labor participation rate since the 1970s.
*Almost 95,000,000 Americans out of the labor force.
*Added more debt than all the other 43 U.S. Presidents combined.
*Worst economic recovery since the 1940s.
*Lowest homeownership rate in 51 years.
*There are13 million more Americans on food stamps.
*More than 43 million Americans living in poverty.
*One in five families without someone in the workforce.
*Average family has more debt than in 2008, when the economy collapsed.
*Wasted a $trillion dollars on shovel ready jobs that never materialized.
*Eight straight years of 2%, or less GDP growth.

I am just glad Obama is finally gone and President Trump
is working to clean up the mess he left behind.

Irish Mike
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2018-01-13 12:54:39 UTC
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Former President Barack Obama resurfaced on Friday and took a shot at Fox News viewers, saying they’re “living on a different planet” than people who consume mainstream media.
Obama made the remarks on the premiere of the new monthly Netflix series “My next guest needs no introduction with David Letterman,” which hit the streaming service on Friday morning.
Letterman then asked Obama what he considers the more dangerous threat to a democracy, the president demeaning the press or a foreign power sabotaging the voting process. Both options are clearly jabs at President Trump and Obama answered without mentioning the current president’s name.
“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”
The response got a big round of applause from the presumably liberal crowd at the City College of New York. Obama has a long history of taking shots at Fox News but the recent comment marks his first public attack on the network and its viewers since leaving the White House.
While Trump is often criticized for attacking the media and labeling CNN as “fake news,” Obama’s comment is a reminder that the White House and the press have sparred for decades. Obama once even accused Fox News of “attacking” his administration during an interview with CNBC."
Fox News viewers, working middle class tax payers, soldiers, cops and those who refused to drink
Obama's left wing Kool aid - we're all just part of the Democrat's big basket of "Deplorables". And we
were insulted, criticized and ridiculed daly during the eight long years of
Obama's reign. So it's good to see that Obama hasn't changed his low opinion of us.
But we haven't forgotten the damage he did to America. Leading from behind and letting ISIS
take over whole cities, slaughter thousands of people and kill Americans. Backing down
from his "red line" in Syria, letting the Russians invade the Ukraine and giving Iran
$150 Billion dollars to fund world wide terrorism as they shout "Death to America"
in the streets.
*$20 trillion national debt.
*Lowest labor participation rate since the 1970s.
*Almost 95,000,000 Americans out of the labor force.
*Added more debt than all the other 43 U.S. Presidents combined.
*Worst economic recovery since the 1940s.
*Lowest homeownership rate in 51 years.
*There are13 million more Americans on food stamps.
*More than 43 million Americans living in poverty.
*One in five families without someone in the workforce.
*Average family has more debt than in 2008, when the economy collapsed.
*Wasted a $trillion dollars on shovel ready jobs that never materialized.
*Eight straight years of 2%, or less GDP growth.
I am just glad Obama is finally gone and President Trump
is working to clean up the mess he left behind.
Irish Mike
Yet both the Obama and Trump administrations are in unilateral support of apartheid Israel, with Obama awarding Israel 38 billion American tax-payer dollars during his last year in office, and Trump during his first year as American president announcing the US embassy move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem after making NO AMERICAN BUDGET cuts to Israel.

Your government has been hijacked Irish Mike, and neither Fox News or MSNBC will tell you the truth.



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I AM NOT JEWISH BUT...
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moviePig
2018-01-13 14:38:31 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion. His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
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YOUR taste at work...
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2018-01-13 14:50:47 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.

Regurgitated propaganda spoon fed to morons.
--
"Donald Trump accepted the Republican nomination Thursday July 22nd."
"ISIS claimed responsibility". - J. P. Shanley
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal? Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN. Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC? And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.

Irish Mike
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2018-01-13 15:08:28 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal? Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN. Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC? And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Irish Mike
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html


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2018-01-13 15:31:32 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal? Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN. Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC? And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Irish Mike
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
You sound really, really, really confused mime: are you saying you find
Bill to be a credible source?
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2018-01-13 15:46:54 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal? Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN. Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC? And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Irish Mike
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
You sound really, really, really confused mime: are you saying you find
Bill to be a credible source?
What I am saying is if you believe as does Joe Biden that a weekly sitcom like 'Will & Grace' could affect the public opinion's to accept homosexuality, then imagine what a constant steady diet of mainstream media droning can do to alter American public opinion.
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2018-01-13 15:38:45 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal? Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN. Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC? And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX. Antithesis: MSNBC. Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
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YOUR taste at work...
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2018-01-13 15:53:14 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal? Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN. Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC? And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX. Antithesis: MSNBC. Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
Yeah, the third option is to turn off all the shit, and gawd forbid, THINK.

Think for yourself using your best judgement.

If the quality of your life is dependent upon the quality of the stories you tell yourself, imagine the quality of life in a sovereign nation that never thinks, instead buys the news stories uncritically.
FPP
2018-01-13 21:56:41 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?  Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid
bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN.  Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC?  And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX.  Antithesis: MSNBC.  Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
There is a difference between spin and lies.
There is a difference between opinion and lies.
Spin is spin. Opinion is opinion. Lies are lies.

Of the three, Fox News contains all three... but they excel at lying.
Not honest mistakes... but out and out lying.

That isn't "news" - it's propaganda. Fox "News" is a State Run
Propaganda operation.
If you've watched it for even a short amount of time, you KNOW that.

If you haven't watched Fox News lately, I would encourage everybody to
do so. Just make sure to watch a real news network too, so you'll know
what you're up against.

The contrast will startle you.
--
"Donald Trump accepted the Republican nomination Thursday July 22nd."
"ISIS claimed responsibility". - J. P. Shanley
trotsky
2018-01-14 10:22:51 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?  Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid
bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN.
Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC?  And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX.  Antithesis: MSNBC.  Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
There is a difference between spin and lies.
There is a difference between opinion and lies.
Spin is spin.  Opinion is opinion.  Lies are lies.
Of the three, Fox News contains all three... but they excel at lying.
Not honest mistakes... but out and out lying.
That isn't "news" - it's propaganda.  Fox "News" is a State Run
Propaganda operation.
If you've watched it for even a short amount of time, you KNOW that.
If you haven't watched Fox News lately, I would encourage everybody to
do so.  Just make sure to watch a real news network too, so you'll know
what you're up against.
The contrast will startle you.
I'm surprised mpig said something that stupid. He was around for the
Cold War. He knows what Pravda is. That's what Fox News is. MSNBC is
left leaning, except for Morning Joe who is just a jackass. Left
leaning doesn't mean they deviate from facts, though, which they don't.
There are internet sites that report on inaccuracies in reporting and
pretty much Fox is the only thing they need to talk about.
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2018-01-14 15:16:56 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?  Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid
bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN.
Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC?  And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX.  Antithesis: MSNBC.  Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
There is a difference between spin and lies.
There is a difference between opinion and lies.
Spin is spin.  Opinion is opinion.  Lies are lies.
Of the three, Fox News contains all three... but they excel at lying.
Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.

Irish Mike
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?  Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid
bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN.
Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC?  And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX.  Antithesis: MSNBC.  Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
There is a difference between spin and lies.
There is a difference between opinion and lies.
Spin is spin.  Opinion is opinion.  Lies are lies.
Of the three, Fox News contains all three... but they excel at lying.
Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
They sure are unafraid to lie, that's certain.
But, in their favor, at least they never lied about serving their
country like some people, right Fake Vet?
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"ISIS claimed responsibility". - J. P. Shanley
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?  Well pull your head out of that left wing Kool aid
bucket you
keep it buried In and tell us about MSNBC, or NBC or CNN.
Specifically,
what is the difference betweenFox and MSNBC?  And as a new
experience, try to do it with out using profanity.
Bill Clinton: MSNBC ‘Has Become Our Version Of Fox’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Thesis: FOX.  Antithesis: MSNBC.  Synthesis: Whatever *I* think...
There is a difference between spin and lies.
There is a difference between opinion and lies.
Spin is spin.  Opinion is opinion.  Lies are lies.
Of the three, Fox News contains all three... but they excel at lying.
Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
You didn't quote me here, are you too stupid to understand how quote
attributions work?
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2018-01-17 01:31:42 UTC
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Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup! Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
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Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump, but opted not to publish it, four people familiar with the matter told CNN.
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and Falzone had even seen emails about a settlement.
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of Falzone, two of the people said. "She had the story and Fox killed it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html

Fox had:
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT

And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.

Almost.
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So... Trumpcare dead, defeated. Flynn resigns, shamed. (Kellyanne)
ConJob marginalized. Giuliani, Christie vanish. This Milo (Yiannopoulos)
kid loses book, job. CPAC expels (Richard) Spencer. WHO's winning?
-Keith Olbermann
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2018-01-17 10:29:36 UTC
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Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup!  Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
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Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that
detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie
Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump,
but opted not to publish it, four people familiar with the matter told
CNN.
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in
October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and
Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the
time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a
sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and
Falzone had even seen emails about a settlement.
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of
Falzone, two of the people said.  "She had the story and Fox killed
it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT
And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.
Almost.
Why would Fake Vet lie--about that and about being a Fake Vet?
Ubiquitous
2018-01-17 11:10:15 UTC
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TROLL-O-METER

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4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
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0* -*- *catatonic
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* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
FPP
2018-01-17 11:21:11 UTC
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TROLL-O-METER
5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
Deflection noted.
Nonresponse noted.
Non-sequitur noted.

Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.

Like you. QED. Thanks for making my point.
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Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
TROLL-O-METER

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4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
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2018-01-17 12:28:40 UTC
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Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup! Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump, but opted not to publish it, four people familiar with the matter told CNN.
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and Falzone had even seen emails about a settlement.
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of Falzone, two of the people said. "She had the story and Fox killed it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT
And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.
Almost.
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
Ubiquitous
2018-01-17 14:06:41 UTC
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Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup! Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump, but
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and Falzone had e
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of Falzone, two of the people said. "She had the story and Fox killed it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT
And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.
Almost.
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
--
Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
FPP
2018-01-17 23:02:26 UTC
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Post by FPP
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Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup! Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump, but
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and Falzone had e
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of Falzone, two of the people said. "She had the story and Fox killed it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT
And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.
Almost.
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
--
So... Trumpcare dead, defeated. Flynn resigns, shamed. (Kellyanne)
ConJob marginalized. Giuliani, Christie vanish. This Milo (Yiannopoulos)
kid loses book, job. CPAC expels (Richard) Spencer. WHO's winning?
-Keith Olbermann
Ubiquitous
2018-01-18 00:30:30 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup! Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump, b
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and Falzone had
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of Falzone, two of the people said. "She had the story and Fox killed it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT
And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.
Almost.
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
TROLL-O-METER

5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
NoBody
2018-01-18 12:35:26 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News - fair, balanced and unafraid.
Irish Mike
Yup! Unafraid to manipulate and sit on news stories that might hurt
their political agenda.
Post by i***@gmail.com
Fox News had a story at the height of the presidential election that detailed an alleged sexual relationship between porn actress Stephanie Clifford -- whose stage name is "Stormy Daniels" -- and Donald Trump, but
The allegation of a relationship was no secret to Fox News, though.
One of the network's reporters, Diana Falzone, had filed a story in October 2016 about an alleged sexual relationship between Clifford and Trump, people familiar with the matter said.
Falzone had an on-the-record statement from Clifford's manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, confirming that her client had engaged in a sexual relationship with Trump, three of these people said, and Falzone had e
But the story never saw the light of the day, to the frustration of Falzone, two of the people said. "She had the story and Fox killed it," one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/16/media/fox-news-stormy-daniels-trump/index.html
- ON THE RECORD STATEMENTS
- CONFIRMATION FROM THREE PEOPLE
- EMAILS ABOUT A SETTLEMENT
And, yet, your "fair, balanced and unafraid" "news" network killed the
story, anyway.
They're almost as big a fraud as your are, Fake Vet.
Almost.
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Ubiquitous
2018-01-18 21:06:24 UTC
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It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
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have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
FPP
2018-01-18 23:52:06 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
--
So... Trumpcare dead, defeated. Flynn resigns, shamed. (Kellyanne)
ConJob marginalized. Giuliani, Christie vanish. This Milo (Yiannopoulos)
kid loses book, job. CPAC expels (Richard) Spencer. WHO's winning?
-Keith Olbermann
NoBody
2018-01-19 15:40:13 UTC
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Post by FPP
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It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't. You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Ubiquitous
2018-01-21 02:31:15 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't. You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
--
Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
FPP
2018-01-21 07:37:15 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't. You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.

Oh, the irony!
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NoBody
2018-01-21 16:18:39 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has the
best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't. You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
Oh, the irony!
Whoosh goes the point past FPP...
Ubiquitous
2018-01-22 11:53:05 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has
the best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased
news provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't. You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
Oh, the irony!
Whoosh goes the point past FPP...
Just another day in RAT...
--
Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
FPP
2018-01-22 23:33:59 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a lie. I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP. Oh and CNN complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has
the best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased
news provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't. You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
Oh, the irony!
Whoosh goes the point past FPP...
Just another day in RAT...
Yeah, I don't think you're quite gettin' the gist, either...
QED. Thanks for making my point.
--
So... Trumpcare dead, defeated. Flynn resigns, shamed. (Kellyanne)
ConJob marginalized. Giuliani, Christie vanish. This Milo (Yiannopoulos)
kid loses book, job. CPAC expels (Richard) Spencer. WHO's winning?
-Keith Olbermann
trotsky
2018-01-23 09:20:04 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
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Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a
lie.  I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP.  Oh and CNN
complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has
the best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased
news provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't.  You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
Oh, the irony!
Whoosh goes the point past FPP...
Just another day in RAT...
Yeah, I don't think you're quite gettin' the gist, either...
QED.  Thanks for making my point.
He made your point, lost the debate and posted something off topic why?
FPP
2018-01-23 12:52:45 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was a
lie.  I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP.  Oh and CNN
complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has
the best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased
news provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for
Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't.  You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
Oh, the irony!
Whoosh goes the point past FPP...
Just another day in RAT...
Yeah, I don't think you're quite gettin' the gist, either...
QED.  Thanks for making my point.
He made your point, lost the debate and posted something off topic why?
I don't think he's tumbled to the fact that every response I've given
him in the last week are just quotes of his posts being cut & pasted
back to him.

Uh-oh! Looks like someone was "triggered" after losing another debate
with me!
"A hit dog always hollers..." Oh, the irony!
--
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2018-01-23 21:44:42 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
Post by FPP
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by NoBody
It's a good thing they "sat" on that story because it was
a lie.  I
guess that doesn't matter to libs like FPP.  Oh and CNN
complaining
about Fox News is just hysterically funny.
And people wonder why Fox is proven to be the least biased and has
the best-informed viewership...
Especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most biased
news provider and has the least-informed viewership.
You mean by the likes of the same people who manufactured the story
you are trumpeting but is proven false?
Well, there you go introducing facts to FPPsky's hate-on for
Fox News again!
I see you still haven't learned you cannot make a sockpuppet smarter than
yourself.
I'm smart enough to know exactly why what you believe to be true
isn't.  You don't understand even after it was explained to you.
Funny how FPP does this whenever he's lost a debate, is it not?
Surprising, especially since it's been proven that Fox News is the most
biased news
provider and has the least-informed viewership.
Oh, the irony!
Whoosh goes the point past FPP...
Just another day in RAT...
Yeah, I don't think you're quite gettin' the gist, either...
QED.  Thanks for making my point.
He made your point, lost the debate and posted something off topic why?
I don't think he's tumbled to the fact that every response I've given
him in the last week are just quotes of his posts being cut & pasted
back to him.
Uh-oh! Looks like someone was "triggered" after losing another debate
with me!
"A hit dog always hollers..."   Oh, the irony!
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?
Yes, really, Fake Vet.
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trotsky
2018-01-14 10:19:49 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Really Fecal?
Yes, really, Fake Vet.
He's starting to sound like Fecal Vet now.
trotsky
2018-01-13 15:27:49 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If
you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are
if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of
some discussion.  His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
Fox News = Fake News = State Run TV = Trump TV.
Pablum for People without the intellectual ability to make up their own
minds.
Regurgitated propaganda spoon fed to morons.
And that's putting it nicely.
t***@gmail.com
2018-01-13 14:58:32 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion. His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews will happily confirm.
IMHO it's the other way around. Though not a steady diet, I can and have watched Fox News. I live in the real world. What I see is real. On the other hand the *news in general* is quite literally a storytelling medium. Sometimes the stories are factual, sometimes the stories are nearly pure fiction. The stories are almost always told to shape public opinion and to conjure a majority consensus. This holds true in all the media outlets in the present day reality.

Trump is a poor storyteller, Obama was a master.

Without exception all the media paints Israel in a sympathetic light. So the bipartisan consensus of both admins, and the American people, is always sympathetic to Israel, even when Israel is killing unpublished accounts of children.

America is easily controlled because Americans only watch American news stories.


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The Aspiring Novelist Who Became Obama’s Foreign-Policy Guru
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/the-aspiring-novelist-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html


“Storytellers that got the most attention were not necessarily the funniest or wittiest; they were the ones prepared to state something that was uncomfortably close to how they saw the world”
https://www.positive.news/2014/perspective/15464/whats-special-storytelling-social-change/




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Gawd Blesh Uh-mere-ka news stories !
moviePig
2018-01-13 15:30:26 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. "If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”
His first statement is opinion wrapped in philosophy, and worthy of some
discussion. His second statement is indisputable fact, which any
FoxNews [viewer] will happily confirm.
IMHO it's the other way around. Though not a steady diet, I can and have watched Fox News. I live in the real world. What I see is real. On the other hand the *news in general* is quite literally a storytelling medium. Sometimes the stories are factual, sometimes the stories are nearly pure fiction. The stories are almost always told to shape public opinion and to conjure a majority consensus. This holds true in all the media outlets in the present day reality.
Trump is a poor storyteller, Obama was a master.
Without exception all the media paints Israel in a sympathetic light. So the bipartisan consensus of both admins, and the American people, is always sympathetic to Israel, even when Israel is killing unpublished accounts of children.
America is easily controlled because Americans only watch American news stories.
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The Aspiring Novelist Who Became Obama’s Foreign-Policy Guru
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/the-aspiring-novelist-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html
“Storytellers that got the most attention were not necessarily the funniest or wittiest; they were the ones prepared to state something that was uncomfortably close to how they saw the world”
https://www.positive.news/2014/perspective/15464/whats-special-storytelling-social-change/
Above, I pick up to apparently conflicting sentiments: 1) a (mild)
condemnation of Obama for being a 'master' storyteller, and 2) an
appreciation of good storytellers as the ones who reveal the truth as
they see it.

Meanwhile (and though no one asked), I personally don't invest in a lot
of news, remaining aware that its worldview is congenitally subject to
all manner of distortion -- from biological tribalism to Machiavellian
mega-deception. Moreover, I hope that the Internet, which daily brings
me evidence supporting that awareness, is bringing it also to others.
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FPP
2018-01-13 14:47:24 UTC
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Former President Barack Obama resurfaced on Friday and took a shot at Fox News viewers, saying they’re “living on a different planet” than people who consume mainstream media.
A Real Shithole Planet.
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"Donald Trump accepted the Republican nomination Thursday July 22nd."
"ISIS claimed responsibility". - J. P. Shanley
Ed Stasiak
2018-01-14 04:30:05 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Translation: "we need government censorship".
anim8rfsk
2018-01-14 04:57:23 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Translation: "we need government censorship".
"Our" democracy? Isn't an affirmative action education great, that he
still hasn't had to learn that the USA is a republic? Or is he talking
about Kenya again?
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FPP
2018-01-14 13:23:49 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Translation: "we need government censorship".
Translation: Ed is hallucinating again.

Facts should be commonly held because they're facts, not because anyone
wants you to believe them.
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"ISIS claimed responsibility". - J. P. Shanley
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2018-01-14 14:40:54 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Facts should be commonly held because they're facts, not because anyone
wants you to believe them.
"Bill Clinton's comparison is sure to rankle people on MSNBC, who consistently reject the notion that they are the Democratic-leaning version of Fox News. Recently, the network’s most prominent voice, Rachel Maddow, discussed this idea with Slate.

“There may be liberals on TV at MSNBC, but the network is not operating with a political objective, whereas Fox is operating with a political objective"


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html



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Can I get a show of hands from anyone who BELIEVES Maddow's 2012 statement is true?

Anyone?
moviePig
2018-01-14 15:51:51 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Facts should be commonly held because they're facts, not because anyone
wants you to believe them.
"Bill Clinton's comparison is sure to rankle people on MSNBC, who consistently reject the notion that they are the Democratic-leaning version of Fox News. Recently, the network’s most prominent voice, Rachel Maddow, discussed this idea with Slate.
“There may be liberals on TV at MSNBC, but the network is not operating with a political objective, whereas Fox is operating with a political objective"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Can I get a show of hands from anyone who BELIEVES Maddow's 2012 statement is true?
Anyone?
Afaics, "second-tier news" networks like FOX and MSNBC have the
objective of appealing to their viewers -- a feedback-loop that, whether
consciously or unconsciously, roots each to its respective end of the
political spectrum. E.g., I watched Olbermann not to learn the day's
events, but to enjoy his roasts of people I already disliked.
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t***@gmail.com
2018-01-14 16:09:09 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Facts should be commonly held because they're facts, not because anyone
wants you to believe them.
"Bill Clinton's comparison is sure to rankle people on MSNBC, who consistently reject the notion that they are the Democratic-leaning version of Fox News. Recently, the network’s most prominent voice, Rachel Maddow, discussed this idea with Slate.
“There may be liberals on TV at MSNBC, but the network is not operating with a political objective, whereas Fox is operating with a political objective"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/bill-clinton-msnbc-fox_n_1214143.html
Can I get a show of hands from anyone who BELIEVES Maddow's 2012 statement is true?
Anyone?
Afaics, "second-tier news" networks like FOX and MSNBC have the
objective of appealing to their viewers -- a feedback-loop that, whether
consciously or unconsciously, roots each to its respective end of the
political spectrum. E.g., I watched Olbermann not to learn the day's
events, but to enjoy his roasts of people I already disliked.
And there is nothing wrong with that imho. Olbermann leans left and doesn't try to hide it, so viewers know where he is coming from.

I follow Glenn Greenwald closely, love his analytical mind and he doesn't hide his left leaning human rights agenda. I love him as a fellow traveler working for social justice. He doesn't hide his agenda, but still, I frequently fact check his claims with other sources when I can. I like Glenn and his whole team, I trust them, but still verify with other sources.

Point is, Greenwald and company have an agenda, they don't hide it while pretending to be unbiased like FOX.
Ed Stasiak
2018-01-14 16:13:19 UTC
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Translation: "we need government censorship".
Translation: Ed is hallucinating again.
Translation: Ed just got shadow banned by Twitter.
Ubiquitous
2018-01-16 06:18:02 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Translation: "we need government censorship".
Translation: Ed is hallucinating again.
Ad hominem noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.
trotsky
2018-01-20 20:17:48 UTC
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“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree
to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said.
Translation: "we need government censorship".
Translation: Ed is hallucinating again.
Ad hominem noted somewhere. Get back to my sockpuppets when you have a real argument to make.
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