Post by Ed Stasiak Post by Rhino
Then he drives off muttering about stuff (somethingsomething
“funeral, don’t matter”)
What kind of accent did the shooter have? New Zealander, I'm
guessing.... Then again, if someone put together a false flag incident
and got sloppy, the shooters could be from damn near anywhere.
He’s apparently Australian but the first video I saw (the YouTube one)
was mostly him driving around and I knew it would be take down soon,
so I FF thru it until I got to the shooting parts.
In the video that Robin Miller posted, (which was the actual killing of
the people in the mosque) I didn’t hear him say anything.
Stuff he had written on his rifle and gear with a paint-pen;
"Crab remover"? Am I reading that right? It's hard to make out the first
of those two words.
Post by Ed Stasiak
I can't find anyone named Josue Estabanez in Wikipedia. I did find
someone named Feliks Potocki, who the Poles apparently see as a traitor
although I don't see any obvious connection to efforts to stop the
spread of Islam so maybe this isn't who the shooter meant. 1683 is an
obvious reference to the battle at the Gates of Vienna.
Sigismund of Luxembourg *does* have a connection to Islam in that he
conceived a crusade to liberate Bulgaria from the Ottomans in 1396 but
it failed. Maybe the shooter is keen to be seen as someone who TRIED to
fight Islam, not necessarily successfully??
Post by Ed Stasiak
Rotherham is an obvious reference to the grooming gangs of South Asian
Muslims who molested girls there for decades. Alexandre Bissonette is
the young man that shot up a mosque in Quebec a couple of years back;
he's only just been sentenced to 40 years in prison.
I had to look up Luca Traini and found this in an article about the 2018
election in Italy:
Macerata murder and attack
Salvini speaks at the final rally of his electoral campaign in Milan
On 3 February 2018, a drive-by shooting event occurred in the city of
Macerata, Marche in Central Italy where six African migrants were
seriously wounded. A 28-year-old local man, Luca Traini, was
arrested and charged with attempted murder, and was also charged for the
attack against the local headquarters of the ruling PD party. After
the attack, Traini reportedly had an Italian flag draped on his
shoulders and raised his arm in the fascist salute. Traini stated
that the attack was "revenge" for Pamela Mastropietro, an 18-year-old
Roman woman whose dismembered body had been found few days earlier,
stuffed into two suitcases and dumped in the countryside; for this,
three Nigerian drug dealers were arrested, the main suspect being
29-year-old failed asylum seeker, named Innocent Oseghale.
Missing body parts had sparked allegations of the murder having been a
muti killing, also involving cannibalism.
The case sparked anger and anti-immigrant sentiment in Macerata.
Traini's lawyer reported "alarming solidarity" for Traini expressed by
the populace, while Mastropietro's mother publicly thanked Traini for
"lighting a candle" for her daughter. A second autopsy of the girl's
remains, published after the attack against the African migrants,
revealed that Mastropietro had been strangulated, stabbed, and then
flayed while still alive. The murder of Mastropietro and the attack
by Traini, and their appraisal by Italian media and the public were "set
to become a decisive factor" in the national elections.
Traini was a member and former local candidate of the Lega, and many
political commentators, intellectuals and politicians harshly criticized
party leader Matteo Salvini, in connection with the attack, accusing him
of having "spread hate and racism" in the country. Particularly, Roberto
Saviano, the notable anti-mafia writer, labeled Salvini as the "moral
instigator" of Traini's attack. Salvini responded to critics by
accusing the centre-left government of responsibility for Mastropietro’s
death through allowing migrants to stay in the country and having "blood
on their hands", asserting that the blame lies with those who "fill
[Italy] with illegal immigrants".
Prime Minister Gentiloni stated that he "trusts in the sense of
responsibility of all political forces. Criminals are criminals and the
state will be particularly harsh with anyone that wants to fuel a spiral
of violence." Gentiloni added that "hate and violence will not divide
Italy". Also, Minister of the Interior Marco Minniti harshly
condemned the attack against the Africans, saying that any political
party must "ride the hate". Renzi, whose party was also accused
about its position on immigration, stated that "calm and responsibility"
from all political forces would now be necessary.
Eventually, in the constituency of Macerata, the centre-right coalition
led by Traini's former party, the Lega, won a plurality of the votes in
the ballot, electing candidate Tullio Patassini, and showed an increase
from 0.4% of the vote in 2013 to 21% in 2018, five years later.
I can't make out the Cyrillic names but I did find Sebastiano Venier, a
15th century Venetian general who led a war against the Ottomans.
I also found an article about the Shipka Pass, which was the site of a
battle between a coalition of Russians and Bulgarians against the
Ottoman Empire during the Russo-Turkish War in 1877:
Novak Vukosevik was a hero of a battle between Montenegro and the
Ottomans the previous year:
Novak Vujošević from Kuči tribe was the biggest hero of the battle,
killing 28 enemy soldiers; he later received an award from the Russian
Post by Ed Stasiak
There are multiple Marcantonio Colonna's but it seems likely this is a
reference to this soldier who played a key role in the Battle of Lepanto
against the Ottomans in 1571.
I can't find anything about someone named Josue Sigis. Sebastiano Venier
was mentioned previously and I've already identified him above. Mihaly
is a very common first name in Hungary (essentially the Hungarian form
of Michael) but I don't know which of many Mihaly's he means. I can't
find Pelayu (or Mihaly Pelayu) anywhere.
Post by Ed Stasiak
I'm not going to do the last couple; I've already seen more than enough
to satisfy myself that he's enumerating people that were significant in
the struggle to resist Islam. Given the slaughter at the mosques, he
obviously sees himself as a hero in the same mold or at least aspires to
be seen like they were.
Of course he's completely overlooked the fact that those other people
were fighting armed soldiers, not unarmed civilians. I can't help but
wonder why he didn't enlist in an army that was fighting actual Muslim
combatants in Afghanistan or the caliphate rather than taking on
civilians in a massively unequal fight.