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Robin Miller
2020-06-24 01:50:12 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.

The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."

The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.

While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.

The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."

One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think, 390
of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals 39
(steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number of
people). OK then.

The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine warns
people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that much
milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)

At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!

One down, six to go.

--Robin
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2020-06-24 02:42:05 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think, 390
of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals 39
(steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number of
people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine warns
people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that much
milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
Doesn't sound so good.

Do

We
Have
To
Go
Back

and watch more?

LOST 10-year-finale anniversary was last month, maybe it's time for a 120 hour rewatch.
anim8rfsk
2020-06-24 02:49:12 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us.
The Peach is in.
Post by Robin Miller
I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
She thinks it will be better than that.
Post by Robin Miller
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of).
Her needlessly cruel Wiki (you watch your ass Ian) snarks about how many
shows she's been killed off of. It claims she had a major role in CHUCK and
is in the original publicity photos but they fired her before the show aired!
Post by Robin Miller
There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles.
Each of them lying on a flat stretch of beach in broad sunlight exactly 39
steps apart, but none of them notice the others until they bump into each
other face to face.
Post by Robin Miller
A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
This is actually the next day. They say they need to get a tourniquet on him.
The Peach opines that if he's been laying on the beach overnight after being
shark attacked and hasn't bled to death yet, he probably doesn't need a
tourniquet.
Post by Robin Miller
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
Remember that, because it's going to be an unpeeling rancid onion of stupid.

Kate (who's down to 14 pounds and wears her shirt buttoned to her chin to
hide it) and Natalie are producers of this BTW.
Post by Robin Miller
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that)
And NOBODY goes over to the sign and gives it a thud or close inspection or
looks at the back to see if it says "Property of the Almost Paradise Gift
Shop" or anything a real person would do. Or take it back to camp to dig
with!
Post by Robin Miller
and it was, I think, 390
of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals 39
(steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number of
people). OK then.
Yeah, because all these people take the same size steps. And if you have 10
people each 39 steps apart, you don't have 390 steps, you have 351. Maybe the
sign was another 39 ...
Post by Robin Miller
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
keep forgetting about the waterfall, that offers food, water, and shelter.
Post by Robin Miller
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine warns
people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that much
milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)
Maybe. I thought that too, but then I couldn't line up the objects with the
people, and the black girl with the short blonde hair finds the book buried
next to her a couple days later, and she's nowhere near where she initially
woke up. And she throws it away! Never throw ANYTHING away! At the very least
you could use it for toilet paper!!
Post by Robin Miller
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
She blows the thing with all her fingers in the hole. I'm betting that
wouldn't work at all.
Post by Robin Miller
One down, six to go.
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Robin Miller
2020-06-24 03:05:28 UTC
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Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us.
The Peach is in.
Oh, good!
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Robin Miller
I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
She thinks it will be better than that.
Post by Robin Miller
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of).
Her needlessly cruel Wiki (you watch your ass Ian) snarks about how many
shows she's been killed off of. It claims she had a major role in CHUCK and
is in the original publicity photos but they fired her before the show aired!
Post by Robin Miller
There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles.
Each of them lying on a flat stretch of beach in broad sunlight exactly 39
steps apart, but none of them notice the others until they bump into each
other face to face.
Post by Robin Miller
A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
This is actually the next day. They say they need to get a tourniquet on him.
The Peach opines that if he's been laying on the beach overnight after being
shark attacked and hasn't bled to death yet, he probably doesn't need a
tourniquet.
I thought a night had passed, making it even stranger that they haven't
had anything to eat or drink other than a little coconut milk, because,
you know, there's a LAKE nearby.

--Robin
anim8rfsk
2020-06-24 03:27:42 UTC
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Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us.
The Peach is in.
Oh, good!
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Robin Miller
I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
She thinks it will be better than that.
Post by Robin Miller
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of).
Her needlessly cruel Wiki (you watch your ass Ian) snarks about how many
shows she's been killed off of. It claims she had a major role in CHUCK and
is in the original publicity photos but they fired her before the show aired!
Post by Robin Miller
There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles.
Each of them lying on a flat stretch of beach in broad sunlight exactly 39
steps apart, but none of them notice the others until they bump into each
other face to face.
Post by Robin Miller
A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
This is actually the next day. They say they need to get a tourniquet on him.
The Peach opines that if he's been laying on the beach overnight after being
shark attacked and hasn't bled to death yet, he probably doesn't need a
tourniquet.
I thought a night had passed, making it even stranger that they haven't
had anything to eat or drink other than a little coconut milk, because,
you know, there's a LAKE nearby.
--Robin
A lake surrounded by food trees. I thought it was the same day but the Peach
convinced me it was overnight.
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2020-06-24 03:45:51 UTC
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I thought a night had passed, making it even stranger that they haven't
had anything to eat or drink other than a little coconut milk, because,
you know, there's a LAKE nearby.
A lake surrounded by food trees. I thought it was the same day but the Peach
convinced me it was overnight.
Great! Overnight is just enough time to discover there is no toilet paper on the island right after they realize coconut milk gave them the royal shits.
BTR1701
2020-06-24 16:57:40 UTC
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Tue, 23 Jun 2020 18:50:12 -0700 Robin
I thought a night had passed, making it even stranger that they haven't
had anything to eat or drink other than a little coconut milk, because,
you know, there's a LAKE nearby.
A lake surrounded by food trees. I thought it was the same day but the
Peach convinced me it was overnight.
Great! Overnight is just enough time to discover there is no toilet paper on
the island right after they realize coconut milk gave them the royal shits.
Oh, come on, mime. We've come to depend on you to decipher the numbers
in these island shows to reveal the Zionist conspiracy beneath the whole
thing.

Step your game up!
anim8rfsk
2020-06-24 17:22:41 UTC
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Tue, 23 Jun 2020 18:50:12 -0700 Robin
I thought a night had passed, making it even stranger that they haven't
had anything to eat or drink other than a little coconut milk, because,
you know, there's a LAKE nearby.
A lake surrounded by food trees. I thought it was the same day but the
Peach convinced me it was overnight.
Great! Overnight is just enough time to discover there is no toilet paper on
the island right after they realize coconut milk gave them the royal shits.
Oh, come on, mime. We've come to depend on you to decipher the numbers
in these island shows to reveal the Zionist conspiracy beneath the whole
thing.
Step your game up!
The Peach was absolutely insistent that the even spacing meant something, but
that the 39 Steps (which social media is now trying to get me to rent)
didn't, because, how could it possibly?

The Peach was absolutely wrong.
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2020-06-24 16:55:58 UTC
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The group wakes up and assembles.
Each of them lying on a flat stretch of beach in broad sunlight exactly 39
steps apart, but none of them notice the others until they bump into each
other face to face.
That was my first WTF moment. Why did Shell Girl need to blow the shell
if her nearest neighbors were only about 90 feet away on either side?
Ubiquitous
2020-06-24 17:32:20 UTC
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The group wakes up and assembles.
Each of them lying on a flat stretch of beach in broad sunlight exactly 39
steps apart, but none of them notice the others until they bump into each
other face to face.
That was my first WTF moment. Why did Shell Girl need to blow the shell
if her nearest neighbors were only about 90 feet away on either side?
It reminds me of an ep of Family Guy in which six inches was sufficient for
someone to be unble to hear what you're saying.

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2020-06-24 04:45:05 UTC
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One down, six to go.
Sounds like a winner. Here's what Wikipedia says in the "Reception" section:

The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 8% approval
rating for the first season with an average rating of 3/10, based on 12
reviews. The site's critical consensus reads, "Bafflingly bad, the only
mystery is how The I-Land got made in the first place."[13]

TV Guide gives the miniseries a rating of 0.5/5, and their critic Tim
Surette summarized that it "is an astonishingly dumb seven-episode
mystery-box limited series about 10 people who wake up on a deserted
tropical island with no memory of who they are or how they got there.
But that central conceit is quickly resolved by Episode 3, as The I-Land
spins out of control, rolls over, and wraps itself around an entirely
new and equally stupid story."[14]

Writing for The Hollywood Reporter, Daniel Fienberg compared the
miniseries to the series Lost "only with a fundamental misunderstanding
of how Lost handled character development, mythology, flashback
structure, theme and ensemble-building." He also wrote that "no aspect
of The I-Land works, and every bad aspect builds on the bad aspects
before in a way that makes it pretty clear that nobody involved could
have been under any misapprehensions about the quality of the endeavor."[15]

At Paste, Allison Keene said "I have watched some truly, truly bad
series in my day, but few that went off the rails this hard this fast.
But man, what a ride. Cannibals, climate change, rogue simulations,
for-profit prisons, a game with no rules and no logic … what an
embarrassment of riches. Or just an embarrassment. We’ll go with that
last one."[16]

In his "Stream It Or Skip It" review, Joel Keller at Decider stated that
the miniseries should be skipped and summarizes that "The I-Land‘s
clunky dialogue and generic characters make us care very little about
why these ten jerks are on this island. And, yes, they’re all pretty
much jerks."[17]

Jack Seale at The Guardian gave the miniseries one out of five stars and
summaries that "This is sci-fi without a vision, a genre piece that
doesn’t know how its own genre works. The I-Land is begging to be
forgotten."[18]

Writing for RogerEbert.com, Brian Tallerico summarized that "The ‘I’
stands for Idiotic. If you put a group of teenagers in a room and showed
them a few episodes of LOST and Westworld before asking them to write
their own program, they might come up with The I-Land," and that "It is
a bafflingly horrible sci-fi show, the kind of project that leaves your
jaw on the floor, not unlike the first time you saw Tommy Wiseau’s The
Room."[19]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_I-Land#Reception
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2020-06-24 16:51:42 UTC
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One down, six to go.
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 8% approval
rating for the first season with an average rating of 3/10, based on 12
reviews. The site's critical consensus reads, "Bafflingly bad, the only
mystery is how THE I-LAND got made in the first place."
TV Guide gives the miniseries a rating of 0.5/5, and their critic Tim
Surette summarized that it "is an astonishingly dumb seven-episode
mystery-box limited series about 10 people who wake up on a deserted
tropical island with no memory of who they are or how they got there.
But that central conceit is quickly resolved by Episode 3, as THE I-LAND
spins out of control, rolls over, and wraps itself around an entirely
new and equally stupid story."
Writing for The Hollywood Reporter, Daniel Fienberg compared the
miniseries to the series LOST "only with a fundamental misunderstanding
of how Lost handled character development, mythology, flashback
structure, theme and ensemble-building." He also wrote that "no aspect
of THE I-LAND works, and every bad aspect builds on the bad aspects
before in a way that makes it pretty clear that nobody involved could
have been under any misapprehensions about the quality of the endeavor."
At Paste, Allison Keene said "I have watched some truly, truly bad
series in my day, but few that went off the rails this hard this fast.
But man, what a ride. Cannibals, climate change, rogue simulations,
for-profit prisons, a game with no rules and no logic... what an
embarrassment of riches. Or just an embarrassment. We'll go with that
last one."
Except, disappointingly, we never get to meet the cannibal.
Post by Jim G.
In his "Stream It Or Skip It" review, Joel Keller at Decider stated that
the miniseries should be skipped and summarizes that "THE I-LAND's
clunky dialogue and generic characters make us care very little about
why these ten jerks are on this island. And, yes, they're all pretty
much jerks."
Jack Seale at The Guardian gave the miniseries one out of five stars and
summaries that "This is sci-fi without a vision, a genre piece that
doesn¹t know how its own genre works. THE I-LAND is begging to be
forgotten."
Writing for RogerEbert.com, Brian Tallerico summarized that "The 'I'
stands for Idiotic. If you put a group of teenagers in a room and showed
them a few episodes of LOST and WESTWORLD before asking them to write
their own program, they might come up with THE I-LAND," and that "It is
a bafflingly horrible sci-fi show, the kind of project that leaves your
jaw on the floor, not unlike the first time you saw Tommy Wiseau's THE
ROOM."
On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
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2020-06-24 17:21:10 UTC
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One down, six to go.
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 8% approval
rating for the first season with an average rating of 3/10, based on 12
reviews. The site's critical consensus reads, "Bafflingly bad, the only
mystery is how THE I-LAND got made in the first place."
TV Guide gives the miniseries a rating of 0.5/5, and their critic Tim
Surette summarized that it "is an astonishingly dumb seven-episode
mystery-box limited series about 10 people who wake up on a deserted
tropical island with no memory of who they are or how they got there.
But that central conceit is quickly resolved by Episode 3, as THE I-LAND
spins out of control, rolls over, and wraps itself around an entirely
new and equally stupid story."
Writing for The Hollywood Reporter, Daniel Fienberg compared the
miniseries to the series LOST "only with a fundamental misunderstanding
of how Lost handled character development, mythology, flashback
structure, theme and ensemble-building." He also wrote that "no aspect
of THE I-LAND works, and every bad aspect builds on the bad aspects
before in a way that makes it pretty clear that nobody involved could
have been under any misapprehensions about the quality of the endeavor."
At Paste, Allison Keene said "I have watched some truly, truly bad
series in my day, but few that went off the rails this hard this fast.
But man, what a ride. Cannibals, climate change, rogue simulations,
for-profit prisons, a game with no rules and no logic... what an
embarrassment of riches. Or just an embarrassment. We'll go with that
last one."
Except, disappointingly, we never get to meet the cannibal.
Post by Jim G.
In his "Stream It Or Skip It" review, Joel Keller at Decider stated that
the miniseries should be skipped and summarizes that "THE I-LAND's
clunky dialogue and generic characters make us care very little about
why these ten jerks are on this island. And, yes, they're all pretty
much jerks."
Jack Seale at The Guardian gave the miniseries one out of five stars and
summaries that "This is sci-fi without a vision, a genre piece that
doesn¹t know how its own genre works. THE I-LAND is begging to be
forgotten."
Writing for RogerEbert.com, Brian Tallerico summarized that "The 'I'
stands for Idiotic. If you put a group of teenagers in a room and showed
them a few episodes of LOST and WESTWORLD before asking them to write
their own program, they might come up with THE I-LAND," and that "It is
a bafflingly horrible sci-fi show, the kind of project that leaves your
jaw on the floor, not unlike the first time you saw Tommy Wiseau's THE
ROOM."
On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
It's all in the Dominican Republic. I can give you URLs for the beach, the
waterfall, the old hotel, and the prison (which is actually Pinewood Studios
Dominican Republic - those cool slant buildings are their sound stages!).
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On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
It's all in the Dominican Republic. I can give you URLs for the beach, the
waterfall, the old hotel, and the prison (which is actually Pinewood Studios
Dominican Republic - those cool slant buildings are their sound stages!).
That's really interesting.

--Robin
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ROOM."
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On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
It's all in the Dominican Republic. I can give you URLs for the beach, the
waterfall, the old hotel, and the prison (which is actually Pinewood Studios
Dominican Republic - those cool slant buildings are their sound stages!).
That's really interesting.
--Robin
Here you go, from my Peach nattering:

The Old Hotel
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024x768

Most of it's nicer
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I thought they might have the grass huts there but couldn't find them

here's the rape date waterfall
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here's pinewood studios in the Dominican Republic
http://juandoliorealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pinewood-sound-
stage-and-office-in-JD.jpg

here's the beach. land for sale there
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The prison
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ROOM."
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On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
It's all in the Dominican Republic. I can give you URLs for the beach, the
waterfall, the old hotel, and the prison (which is actually Pinewood Studios
Dominican Republic - those cool slant buildings are their sound stages!).
That's really interesting.
--Robin
The Old Hotel
http://pix10.agoda.net/hotelImages/662/66224/66224_1208211539007291864.jpg?s=1
024x768
Most of it's nicer
https://r-ec.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max300/119/11959323.jpg
I thought they might have the grass huts there but couldn't find them
here's the rape date waterfall
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWF46fi2kCo/maxresdefault.jpg
https://templobiblico.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/afiche-fb-salto-alto3.png
here's pinewood studios in the Dominican Republic
http://juandoliorealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pinewood-sound-
stage-and-office-in-JD.jpg
here's the beach. land for sale there
https://provaltur.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Lanza-del-Norte-2.jpg
The prison
https://jubilee-live.flickr.com/65535/48722847516_941336766a_b.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BObTkHOD5w8/VkJPZUI5o2I/AAAAAAACWe4/UVS7-
qxFehU/s1600/PINEWOOD%2BSTUDIO.gif
Wow! Four waterfalls.

Thanks!

--Robin
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2020-06-24 21:34:07 UTC
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ROOM."
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On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
It's all in the Dominican Republic. I can give you URLs for the beach, the
waterfall, the old hotel, and the prison (which is actually Pinewood Studios
Dominican Republic - those cool slant buildings are their sound stages!).
That's really interesting.
--Robin
The Old Hotel
Loading Image...
=1
024x768
Most of it's nicer
https://r-ec.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max300/119/11959323.jpg
I thought they might have the grass huts there but couldn't find them
here's the rape date waterfall
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWF46fi2kCo/maxresdefault.jpg
https://templobiblico.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/afiche-fb-salto-alto3.png
here's pinewood studios in the Dominican Republic
http://juandoliorealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pinewood-sound-
stage-and-office-in-JD.jpg
here's the beach. land for sale there
https://provaltur.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Lanza-del-Norte-2.jpg
The prison
https://jubilee-live.flickr.com/65535/48722847516_941336766a_b.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BObTkHOD5w8/VkJPZUI5o2I/AAAAAAACWe4/UVS7-
qxFehU/s1600/PINEWOOD%2BSTUDIO.gif
Wow! Four waterfalls.
Thanks!
--Robin
Yeah, it's nicer than what they showed us! I would *so* go live there!
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That's really interesting.
--Robin
The Old Hotel
http://pix10.agoda.net/hotelImages/662/66224/66224_1208211539007291864.jpg?s
=1
024x768
Most of it's nicer
https://r-ec.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max300/119/11959323.jpg
I thought they might have the grass huts there but couldn't find them
here's the rape date waterfall
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWF46fi2kCo/maxresdefault.jpg
https://templobiblico.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/afiche-fb-salto-alto3.png
here's pinewood studios in the Dominican Republic
http://juandoliorealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pinewood-sound-
stage-and-office-in-JD.jpg
here's the beach. land for sale there
https://provaltur.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Lanza-del-Norte-2.jpg
The prison
https://jubilee-live.flickr.com/65535/48722847516_941336766a_b.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BObTkHOD5w8/VkJPZUI5o2I/AAAAAAACWe4/UVS7-
qxFehU/s1600/PINEWOOD%2BSTUDIO.gif
Wow! Four waterfalls.
Thanks!
--Robin
Yeah, it's nicer than what they showed us! I would *so* go live there!
After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
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That's really interesting.
--Robin
The Old Hotel
Loading Image...
?s
=1
024x768
Most of it's nicer
https://r-ec.bstatic.com/images/hotel/max300/119/11959323.jpg
I thought they might have the grass huts there but couldn't find them
here's the rape date waterfall
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DWF46fi2kCo/maxresdefault.jpg
https://templobiblico.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/afiche-fb-salto-alto3.pn
g
here's pinewood studios in the Dominican Republic
http://juandoliorealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pinewood-sound-
stage-and-office-in-JD.jpg
here's the beach. land for sale there
https://provaltur.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Lanza-del-Norte-2.jpg
The prison
https://jubilee-live.flickr.com/65535/48722847516_941336766a_b.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BObTkHOD5w8/VkJPZUI5o2I/AAAAAAACWe4/UVS7-
qxFehU/s1600/PINEWOOD%2BSTUDIO.gif
Wow! Four waterfalls.
Thanks!
--Robin
Yeah, it's nicer than what they showed us! I would *so* go live there!
After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
It ain't like it would be for long in either location
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Wow! Four waterfalls.
Thanks!
--Robin
Yeah, it's nicer than what they showed us! I would *so* go live there!
After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
It ain't like it would be for long in either location
That sounds...grim.
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Wow! Four waterfalls.
Thanks!
--Robin
Yeah, it's nicer than what they showed us! I would *so* go live there!
After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
It ain't like it would be for long in either location
That sounds...grim.
As grim as if I were born on Yancy Street.
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After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
It ain't like it would be for long in either location
That sounds...grim.
As grim as if I were born on Yancy Street.
Has it Ben that bad?
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After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
It ain't like it would be for long in either location
That sounds...grim.
As grim as if I were born on Yancy Street.
Has it Ben that bad?
It's like my best friend is sleeping with an imposter of my girl (why would I
forgive him for that again? He didn't know any different)

Oh, punny answer?

Depends what you Reed into it.

(so Sue me)
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After so many years in Arizona, could your body handle that much water?
(Humidity, rain, waterfalls, rivers, ocean...)
It ain't like it would be for long in either location
That sounds...grim.
As grim as if I were born on Yancy Street.
Has it Ben that bad?
It's like my best friend is sleeping with an imposter of my girl (why would I
forgive him for that again? He didn't know any different)
Oh, punny answer?
Depends what you Reed into it.
(so Sue me)
What can you win? I've not no visible means of support.
That is fantastic for the unintiated.
Tee (Marvelous) Jay
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As grim as if I were born on Yancy Street.
Has it Ben that bad?
It's like my best friend is sleeping with an imposter of my girl (why would I
forgive him for that again? He didn't know any different)
Oh, punny answer?
Depends what you Reed into it.
(so Sue me)
What can you win? I've not no visible means of support.
That is fantastic for the unintiated.
Tee (Marvelous) Jay
Punning is sorta his Thing.
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One down, six to go.
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 8% approval
rating for the first season with an average rating of 3/10, based on 12
reviews. The site's critical consensus reads, "Bafflingly bad, the only
mystery is how THE I-LAND got made in the first place."
TV Guide gives the miniseries a rating of 0.5/5, and their critic Tim
Surette summarized that it "is an astonishingly dumb seven-episode
mystery-box limited series about 10 people who wake up on a deserted
tropical island with no memory of who they are or how they got there.
But that central conceit is quickly resolved by Episode 3, as THE I-LAND
spins out of control, rolls over, and wraps itself around an entirely
new and equally stupid story."
Writing for The Hollywood Reporter, Daniel Fienberg compared the
miniseries to the series LOST "only with a fundamental misunderstanding
of how Lost handled character development, mythology, flashback
structure, theme and ensemble-building." He also wrote that "no aspect
of THE I-LAND works, and every bad aspect builds on the bad aspects
before in a way that makes it pretty clear that nobody involved could
have been under any misapprehensions about the quality of the endeavor."
At Paste, Allison Keene said "I have watched some truly, truly bad
series in my day, but few that went off the rails this hard this fast.
But man, what a ride. Cannibals, climate change, rogue simulations,
for-profit prisons, a game with no rules and no logic... what an
embarrassment of riches. Or just an embarrassment. We'll go with that
last one."
Except, disappointingly, we never get to meet the cannibal.
Is that going to eat at you for a while?
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In his "Stream It Or Skip It" review, Joel Keller at Decider stated that
the miniseries should be skipped and summarizes that "THE I-LAND's
clunky dialogue and generic characters make us care very little about
why these ten jerks are on this island. And, yes, they're all pretty
much jerks."
Jack Seale at The Guardian gave the miniseries one out of five stars and
summaries that "This is sci-fi without a vision, a genre piece that
doesn¹t know how its own genre works. THE I-LAND is begging to be
forgotten."
Writing for RogerEbert.com, Brian Tallerico summarized that "The 'I'
stands for Idiotic. If you put a group of teenagers in a room and showed
them a few episodes of LOST and WESTWORLD before asking them to write
their own program, they might come up with THE I-LAND," and that "It is
a bafflingly horrible sci-fi show, the kind of project that leaves your
jaw on the floor, not unlike the first time you saw Tommy Wiseau's THE
ROOM."
On the plus side, the actual island is beautiful in big screen HD. Makes
me want to go to there.
As Anim points out, it's the DR, so it also has the advantage of being a
place where people magically de-age by about five to seven years -- if
Major League baseball is any indication, anyway.
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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_I-Land#Reception
Wow, Alex Prettyfur is in it? I figured he'd been banned from Hollywood
for being an asshole and so difficult to work with.


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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_I-Land#Reception
Wow, Alex Prettyfur is in it? I figured he'd been banned from Hollywood
for being an asshole and so difficult to work with.
Well, he plays a difficult asshole who dies early and often.
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Sounds like.
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At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
Good luck with that. Should we take bets on how long you'll all last>
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Sounds like.
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At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
Good luck with that. Should we take bets on how long you'll all last>
She made it all the way through El Barco - the I-Land should be a snap.
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Sounds like.
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At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
Good luck with that. Should we take bets on how long you'll all last>
She made it all the way through El Barco - the I-Land should be a snap.
It will be a snap (watched 2, 3 and the beginning of 4 last night, and
will report later on that), but El Barco was fun to watch, had several
worthwhile characters, and was well-reviewed. I don't see any comparison
between the two.

--Robin
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Sounds like.
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At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
Good luck with that. Should we take bets on how long you'll all last>
She made it all the way through El Barco - the I-Land should be a snap.
I haven't started it yet. I may not, there's better shows to watch.
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Sounds like.
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At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
Good luck with that. Should we take bets on how long you'll all last>
She made it all the way through El Barco - the I-Land should be a snap.
I haven't started it yet. I may not, there's better shows to watch.
Pretty much all of them (unless they're on the CW)
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it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Sounds like.
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At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
Good luck with that. Should we take bets on how long you'll all last>
I finished it last night. My ritualistic scourging is complete.
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2020-06-24 07:40:57 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
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Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
The The Island re-watch!

--Robin
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Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
The The Island re-watch!
--Robin
My mistake: The The I-Land re-watch!

--Robin
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
The The Island re-watch!
--Robin
My mistake: The The I-Land re-watch!
--Robin
Still not right. Wait 'til you hear how Kate pronounces it.
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
There is no doubt that shawn should be punished for his crimes. But
this seems a tad... *harsh*.

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who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!
shawn
2020-06-24 16:27:23 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 21:50:12 -0400, Robin Miller
Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
There is no doubt that shawn should be punished for his crimes. But
this seems a tad... *harsh*.
I'll watch if you watch.
anim8rfsk
2020-06-24 17:18:48 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 21:50:12 -0400, Robin Miller
Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
There is no doubt that shawn should be punished for his crimes. But
this seems a tad... *harsh*.
I'll watch if you watch.
VIEWING PARTY!
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2020-06-24 18:23:27 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 21:50:12 -0400, Robin Miller
Post by Robin Miller
So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I had entirely forgotten this show. I know I watched the first episode
as all of the discussion below reminded me. Can't say that I watched
the rest of it as it didn't impress me that much (hence why I had
forgotten it.)
Then watch it again!
There is no doubt that shawn should be punished for his crimes. But
this seems a tad... *harsh*.
I'll watch if you watch.
"I don't want to watch it. YOU watch it."
"Let's get Mikey! He'll watch anything!"
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"I'm really glad we're at this place in our relationship where we can
dig up graves together without having to talk." -- Major Lillywhite, iZOMBIE
BTR1701
2020-06-24 16:44:08 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think, 390
of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals 39
(steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number of
people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins.
Which was stupid, because the first storm is going to wipe out their
camp with a tidal surge, plus, you know, fresh water.
Robin Miller
2020-06-25 02:09:03 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and  Our Heroine  walk
inland looking for  water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think, 390
of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals 39
(steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number of
people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine warns
people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that much
milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.

Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of the
worst character names ever) was in the military and has mad fighting
skills.

The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!

BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.

Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.

--Robin
BTR1701
2020-06-25 03:41:15 UTC
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My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of
the worst character names ever)
Her name's actually Gabriella. Her last name is Chase.
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was in the military and has mad fighting skills.
Also a nationally ranked mixed martial arts competitor. Which brings up
another serious WTF moment in the final episode.
Post by Robin Miller
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
Did you notice that on the first day when they first woke up and Chase
meets up with Bosworth, there were already hundreds of footprints in the
sand on the beach? I was like, do they not notice that crowds of people
seem to have been there very recently? (Obviously they were from the
film crew doing setups and whatnot, but it really stood out to me that
they didn't smooth the sand over before shooting the scene.)
Robin Miller
2020-06-25 03:40:22 UTC
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My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of
the worst character names ever)
Her name's actually Gabriella. Her last name is Chase.
Oh, OK, that's better. Thanks.
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was in the military and has mad fighting skills.
Also a nationally ranked mixed martial arts competitor. Which brings up
another serious WTF moment in the final episode.
Post by Robin Miller
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
Did you notice that on the first day when they first woke up and Chase
meets up with Bosworth, there were already hundreds of footprints in the
sand on the beach? I was like, do they not notice that crowds of people
seem to have been there very recently? (Obviously they were from the
film crew doing setups and whatnot, but it really stood out to me that
they didn't smooth the sand over before shooting the scene.)
No, I never notice stuff like that, but that's a great observation!

--Robin
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2020-06-25 05:24:07 UTC
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My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of
the worst character names ever)
Her name's actually Gabriella. Her last name is Chase.
Oh, OK, that's better. Thanks.
It's actually not better. The names in their name tags are indeed their last
names
but but but
That means Kate Bosworth's LAST name is KC
WTH?
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was in the military and has mad fighting skills.
Also a nationally ranked mixed martial arts competitor. Which brings up
another serious WTF moment in the final episode.
Post by Robin Miller
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
Did you notice that on the first day when they first woke up and Chase
meets up with Bosworth, there were already hundreds of footprints in the
sand on the beach? I was like, do they not notice that crowds of people
seem to have been there very recently? (Obviously they were from the
film crew doing setups and whatnot, but it really stood out to me that
they didn't smooth the sand over before shooting the scene.)
No, I never notice stuff like that, but that's a great observation!
I assumed they were the footprints of the workers that dragged them to where
they woke up.
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2020-06-25 05:17:38 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of them
has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts they're
wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY, Secrets
and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for someone
I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand; she
immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well, nothing. 30
seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We later find out
that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine walk
inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple of
waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right. They
kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive separately
back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall Rapey Guy
declared himself the leader and starts telling people what to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting for
him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach with
lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just scratched
him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think, 390
of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals 39
(steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number of
people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine warns
people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that much
milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She throws
the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an "The
I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear).
The Bonnie actress is Clara Wang, who I love from her Liberty Mutual
'hydroplaning' ads, which were so popular the company redacted them and her.
Post by Robin Miller
I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of the
worst character names ever)
trust me, KC is worse
Post by Robin Miller
was in the military and has mad fighting
skills.
The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!
BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
Be careful what you wish for.
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--Robin
The Peach and I never agreed on how often night occurs. She seemed to feel
that anytime Chase wakes up, it's a new day. I'm unconvinced as we *never*
see sunsets or sunrises, as you'd expect if they're waking to a new day.
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2020-06-25 11:36:40 UTC
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My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of the
worst character names ever) was in the military and has mad fighting
skills.
The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!
BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
Be careful what you wish for.
The Peach and I never agreed on how often night occurs. She seemed to feel
that anytime Chase wakes up, it's a new day. I'm unconvinced as we *never*
see sunsets or sunrises, as you'd expect if they're waking to a new day.
"Hmm, this MEANS something!"

--
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love this country.
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2020-06-26 20:48:36 UTC
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of
them has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts
they're wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY,
Secrets and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for
someone I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand;
she immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well,
nothing. 30 seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We
later find out that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and  Our Heroine
walk inland looking for  water. They find a big lake fed by a couple
of waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right.
They kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive
separately back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall
Rapey Guy declared himself the leader and starts telling people what
to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting
for him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach
with lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just
scratched him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think,
390 of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals
39 (steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number
of people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine
warns people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that
much milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She
throws the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an
"The I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of the
worst character names ever) was in the military and has mad fighting
skills.
The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!
BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
--Robin
So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.

Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?

Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?

The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?

How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?

How did she not know that someone was cutting off her fingers?

There is a decent idea behind this show but the execution is abysmal.

--Robin
BTR1701
2020-06-26 21:05:57 UTC
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So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
Bingo.

And why did she think she could get there? She didn't even take the
paddles. She just jumped in a raft and I guess hoped the random currents
or wind would take her where she wanted to go.
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How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
Never explained. That screamed "cut scene" to me.
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2020-06-26 21:11:40 UTC
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So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
Bingo.
And why did she think she could get there? She didn't even take the
paddles. She just jumped in a raft and I guess hoped the random currents
or wind would take her where she wanted to go.
Post by Robin Miller
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
Never explained. That screamed "cut scene" to me.
Episode five seemed a little short to me. Don't know if that's really true.

--Robin
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2020-06-26 22:20:51 UTC
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So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
Bingo.
And why did she think she could get there? She didn't even take the
paddles. She just jumped in a raft and I guess hoped the random currents
or wind would take her where she wanted to go.
Post by Robin Miller
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
Never explained. That screamed "cut scene" to me.
Episode five seemed a little short to me. Don't know if that's really true.
--Robin
Ep 5 is 41:55
Ep 4 is 41:22
Ep 3 is 39:02
Ep 2 is 43:55
Ep 1 is 42:45

Coming up
Ep 6 will be 37:18
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Ep 6 will be 38:16
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So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
Bingo.
And why did she think she could get there? She didn't even take the
paddles. She just jumped in a raft and I guess hoped the random currents
or wind would take her where she wanted to go.
Post by Robin Miller
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
Never explained. That screamed "cut scene" to me.
Episode five seemed a little short to me. Don't know if that's really true.
--Robin
Ep 5 is 41:55
Ep 4 is 41:22
Ep 3 is 39:02
Ep 2 is 43:55
Ep 1 is 42:45
Coming up
Ep 6 will be 37:18
and
Ep 6 will be 38:16
Thanks. I looked for that information but didn't see it.

--Robin
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2020-06-27 01:37:50 UTC
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So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a
sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
Bingo.
And why did she think she could get there? She didn't even take the
paddles. She just jumped in a raft and I guess hoped the random currents
or wind would take her where she wanted to go.
Post by Robin Miller
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
Never explained. That screamed "cut scene" to me.
Episode five seemed a little short to me. Don't know if that's really true.
--Robin
Ep 5 is 41:55
Ep 4 is 41:22
Ep 3 is 39:02
Ep 2 is 43:55
Ep 1 is 42:45
Coming up
Ep 6 will be 37:18
and
Ep 6 will be 38:16
Thanks. I looked for that information but didn't see it.
--Robin
I culled it off the eps themselves, just for youts.

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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group project
with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already certain that
it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of
them has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts
they're wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY,
Secrets and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career for
someone I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her hand;
she immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well,
nothing. 30 seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We
later find out that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine
walk inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple
of waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right.
They kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive
separately back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall
Rapey Guy declared himself the leader and starts telling people what
to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting
for him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach
with lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just
scratched him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at it,
too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing discovery.
It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between the spots
where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm.... Later on, he
makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign along the beach,
saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and it was, I think,
390 of his long, exaggerated steps away from the group, and 390 equals
39 (steps between the people where they woke up) times 10 (the number
of people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up camp
on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins. They
never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a nearby
tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our Heroine
warns people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't have that
much milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a knife and a
hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had an object next
to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She
throws the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and an
"The I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to watch
it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a killing
at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was reasonably
interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the 8 percent
positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34% positive I
think, which is probably more accurate), although the characters are
mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems like something
that a group of teenagers would come up with if they were telling a
story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of the
worst character names ever) was in the military and has mad fighting
skills.
The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!
BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one involved
two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since they wake up
again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the "Find Your Way
Back" sign.
--Robin
So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
I'd guess they just dressed a couple rooms, although they do have 3
soundstage at their disposal.
Post by Robin Miller
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
Half played by the impossibly cute Clara Wong!
http://kingoftheflatscreen.com/hottest-woman-41216-clara-wong-billions-vinyl/
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The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
She does seem to have panicked early and often
Post by Robin Miller
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
Apparently the cannibal nibbled at her on the trip?
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How did she not know that someone was cutting off her fingers?
There is that.
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There is a decent idea behind this show but the execution is abysmal.
Only two to go!
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group
project with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already
certain that it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten
Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of
them has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts
they're wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY,
Secrets and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career
for someone I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her
hand; she immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well,
nothing. 30 seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We
later find out that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and  Our Heroine
walk inland looking for  water. They find a big lake fed by a couple
of waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right.
They kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive
separately back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall
Rapey Guy declared himself the leader and starts telling people what
to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting
for him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach
with lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just
scratched him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at
it, too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing
discovery. It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between
the spots where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm....
Later on, he makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign
along the beach, saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and
it was, I think, 390 of his long, exaggerated steps away from the
group, and 390 equals 39 (steps between the people where they woke
up) times 10 (the number of people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up
camp on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins.
They never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a
nearby tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our
Heroine warns people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't
have that much milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a
knife and a hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had
an object next to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She
throws the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and
an "The I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to
watch it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a
killing at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was
reasonably interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the
8 percent positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34%
positive I think, which is probably more accurate), although the
characters are mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems
like something that a group of teenagers would come up with if they
were telling a story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of
the worst character names ever) was in the military and has mad
fighting skills.
The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!
BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one
involved two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since
they wake up again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the
"Find Your Way Back" sign.
--Robin
So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
How did she not know that someone was cutting off her fingers?
There is a decent idea behind this show but the execution is abysmal.
--Robin
OK, I watched episodes 6 and 7 last night. It helped that they were on
the short side.

Overall I thought the show was more blah than bad. (Other than the
scenes of Taylor on the cannibal's island, which were like some very bad
horror movie.)

I was left with a number of questions:

(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)

If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.

Wasn't Blair (the angel of death nurse) still alive? I wondered why they
didn't show her at the end, only Cooper and KC.

And if KC was for Child Killer, why wasn't she CK? Because KC can be
pronounced "Casey?" So as not to invoke Louis C.K.? (This isn't important.)

From the flashback of Chase's mother being shot, it didn't look at all
like Cooper shot her intentionally. It seemed to be in the midst of a
struggle for the gun that the mother aimed at Cooper. So why did he tell
Chase that "I shot your mother," leaving her to think that he did so
intentionally. She even said "you framed me" or something like that.

Why did Cooper and KC call the island "one land" at the end? (I see from
Wiki's episode recaps that Bonnie and Clyde called the cannibal's island
"two-land.")

After the official told Casey how old she really was, Casey asked why
all the people in the tank appeared to be the same age as she had seen
them on the island. Did she get a real explanation? Was the implant
supposed to hide everyone's age from everyone in the simulation, not
just hide a person's age from themself?

And why did they need an implant in the first place since people in
general didn't come back from the simulation? Didn't they say that Chase
was the first person who had been redeemed in the sim?

The experts said that the simulation was a chance for people to be
redeemed, but what was recognized as redemption other than the discovery
of actual innocence, which occurred accidentally in Chase's case?

Guess that's enough!

--Robin
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So I watched episode one (of 7) last night as part of my group
project with Anim and whoever else wants to join us. I am already
certain that it will fully justify its 8% positive rating on Rotten
Tomatoes.
So the setup: Ten strangers wake up on a beach, apparently an island.
They don't know each other or how they got there--in fact, they don't
even remember their own names or lives. Helpfully, though, each of
them has a name printed on the label of the nearly-identical shirts
they're wearing, so they go with those.
The action starts with Our Heroine, Natalie Martinez (from Under the
Dome and The Crossing, as well as a bunch of other shows I didn't
watch--Fashion House, Saints & Sinners, Detroit 1-8-7, CSI: NY,
Secrets and Lies, Kingdom, and APB. She's had a very decent career
for someone I'm only barely aware of). There is a conch shell in her
hand; she immediately blows into it, making a noise that does, well,
nothing. 30 seconds in and I can tell this is going to be bad. We
later find out that her name is apparently "Chase."
The group wakes up and assembles. A very Tall Guy and Our Heroine
walk inland looking for water. They find a big lake fed by a couple
of waterfalls. He says "Let's keep this our little secret." Right.
They kiss and he tries to rape her. She gets away and they arrive
separately back at the group. She accuses him, he denies it, and Tall
Rapey Guy declared himself the leader and starts telling people what
to do.
While they were gone, however, Long-Haired Guy shouts "Let's go
swimming" and jumps into the water. Sadly, three sharks are waiting
for him. He's gone for a while, then his body shows up on the beach
with lots of long thin wounds but no bite marks. I guess they just
scratched him badly.
The only other character played by an actor with a recognizable name,
Kate Bosworth, apparently exists just to be a bitch. She's good at
it, too. The name on her shirt label is "KC."
One of the more dim-witted characters then makes an amazing
discovery. It is exactly 39 of his long, exaggerated steps in between
the spots where each person woke up. What could that mean? Hmm....
Later on, he makes an even more amazing discovery! There is a sign
along the beach, saying "Go Back Home" (or something like that) and
it was, I think, 390 of his long, exaggerated steps away from the
group, and 390 equals 39 (steps between the people where they woke
up) times 10 (the number of people). OK then.
The group convenes again to decide what to do. Should they set up
camp on the beach or inland at the lake? Apparently the beach wins.
They never go get water, instead subsisting on three coconuts from a
nearby tree. I guess that's enough for 10 people, even though Our
Heroine warns people not to drink too much because a coconut doesn't
have that much milk. Oh, she's also confiscated the two weapons--a
knife and a hatchet--that the group awakened with. (Each person had
an object next to them.)
At the end of the episode, Our Heroine walks away in disgust. She
throws the conch shell. It breaks, revealing electronics inside and
an "The I-Land" logo. Really. A clew!
One down, six to go.
--Robin
My first update. Last night (Tuesday) I watched episodes two and three
and the first few minutes of episode four (to the point where "Bonnie
and Clyde" appear). I won't spoil the details for all those yet to
watch it, but episode two was almost completely useless, other than a
killing at the end, while episode three has the big reveal, which was
reasonably interesting. Overall I'd say it's a little better than the
8 percent positive by critics on Rotten Tomatoes (viewers were 34%
positive I think, which is probably more accurate), although the
characters are mostly uninteresting or worse and the plot so far seems
like something that a group of teenagers would come up with if they
were telling a story around a campfire one night.
Of course Our Heroine (Natalie Martinez aka "Chase," which is one of
the worst character names ever) was in the military and has mad
fighting skills.
The reviews suggest that the story really goes off the rails now, so
we'll see!
BTW, I noticed that Jonathan Scarfe was listed as the director of at
least the last couple of episodes.
Also, episode two opens with the group waking up from overnight, which
makes me at least somewhat doubt my conclusion that episode one
involved two days. In fact, episode two involves two nights, since
they wake up again after the big storm. Still no explanation for the
"Find Your Way Back" sign.
--Robin
So I watched the rest of episode 4, and then episode 5, last night.
Is the hotel really abandoned in real life, or were the interior scenes
filmed on a set?
Bonnie and Clyde are kind of interesting characters, rogue players in a sim?
The whole thing with Taylor made no sense whatsoever. Why would she
want--desperately want--to leave an island with people she knows a
little for a completely unknown island? Why would that be a better place?
How did she get so injured on the trip over? Was she attacked by jumping
sharks as she paddled?
How did she not know that someone was cutting off her fingers?
There is a decent idea behind this show but the execution is abysmal.
--Robin
OK, I watched episodes 6 and 7 last night. It helped that they were on
the short side.
Overall I thought the show was more blah than bad. (Other than the
scenes of Taylor on the cannibal's island, which were like some very bad
horror movie.)
The Peach agrees with you. I thought that if she was more familiar with the
stuff they were ripping off, like LOST, and, I think, El Barco, she might be
more annoyed with it.
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Yeah, that's a problem. I kept figuring that the prison stuff was also
virtual, although they didn't adequately address it. She probably wouldn't
just be happily walking to town unaided with $200 in her pocket at the end
either.
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Wasn't Blair (the angel of death nurse) still alive? I wondered why they
didn't show her at the end, only Cooper and KC.
They started shortcutting the actors the minute we saw the VR tank.
I think Blair's dead but ... I don't remember how.
(checking)
Okay, Blair kills stalker guy with the flare gun, after they specifically
said they only had one flare, and he wasted it earlier.
Maybe they executed her for killing him?

Oh, wait - are you thinking you saw Cooper and KC in the exit interviews?
That's Bonnie and Clyde. I don't think we see Cooper of KC again after Cooper
dies in the hotel.
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And if KC was for Child Killer, why wasn't she CK? Because KC can be
pronounced "Casey?" So as not to invoke Louis C.K.? (This isn't important.)
I have NO idea how the 'the name tag is your last name' works for her.
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From the flashback of Chase's mother being shot, it didn't look at all
like Cooper shot her intentionally. It seemed to be in the midst of a
struggle for the gun that the mother aimed at Cooper. So why did he tell
Chase that "I shot your mother," leaving her to think that he did so
intentionally. She even said "you framed me" or something like that.
Yep, none of that made sense either.
Post by Robin Miller
Why did Cooper and KC call the island "one land" at the end?
THERE it is.
:D
I told you you'd be really annoyed at how it's pronounced!
The Peach liked that. I hated it.
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(I see from
Wiki's episode recaps that Bonnie and Clyde called the cannibal's island
"two-land.")
I missed that.
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After the official told Casey how old she really was, Casey asked why
all the people in the tank appeared to be the same age as she had seen
them on the island. Did she get a real explanation?
They said they were the same age as when they committed the crimes or were
sentenced or whatever.
Post by Robin Miller
Was the implant
supposed to hide everyone's age from everyone in the simulation, not
just hide a person's age from themself?
And why did they need an implant in the first place since people in
general didn't come back from the simulation? Didn't they say that Chase
was the first person who had been redeemed in the sim?
Yeah, and before they knew she was innocent (I think)
Post by Robin Miller
The experts said that the simulation was a chance for people to be
redeemed, but what was recognized as redemption other than the discovery
of actual innocence, which occurred accidentally in Chase's case?
I have no freaking idea.
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Guess that's enough!
Nah, not nearly!

:D

Okay, old Chase? She's not played by the same actress. She's played by THIS
actress, in obvious old age make-up:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0173124/mediaviewer/rm2966911744

So why didn't they put the bad old age make-up on young Chase? Or hire an old
woman and save the trouble? How about using Chase's mom, Maria Conchita
Alonso?

So Texas arrested Chase for a murder she didn't commit, stuck her away for 25
years, experimented on her, and gave all her money away. And told her the
whole thing was worth $200 cash.
Um - why is no one talking about the incredible lawsuit she has? Hell, the
hush money alone should be in the tens of millions.

I told the Peach that something was funky with the timeline, because in all
the flashbacks the cars were from the 70s or so. I assumed that Chase and the
others had been in prison for decades (or all the care in the Dominican
Republic are from the 70s) and that the finale would show her in our time.
But instead the final is set 25 years in the future, so all the cars in the
flashback should have been from 2019!

Did you notice that Chase's exit interview shrink was Tayla from Stargate
Atlantis SGA (the "A" stands for: ATLANTIS!!!)?
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OK, I watched episodes 6 and 7 last night. It helped that they were on
the short side.
Overall I thought the show was more blah than bad. (Other than the
scenes of Taylor on the cannibal's island, which were like some very bad
horror movie.)
The Peach agrees with you. I thought that if she was more familiar with the
stuff they were ripping off, like LOST, and, I think, El Barco, she might be
more annoyed with it.
Post by Robin Miller
(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Yeah, that's a problem. I kept figuring that the prison stuff was also
virtual, although they didn't adequately address it. She probably wouldn't
just be happily walking to town unaided with $200 in her pocket at the end
either.
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Wasn't Blair (the angel of death nurse) still alive? I wondered why they
didn't show her at the end, only Cooper and KC.
They started shortcutting the actors the minute we saw the VR tank.
I think Blair's dead but ... I don't remember how.
(checking)
Okay, Blair kills stalker guy with the flare gun, after they specifically
said they only had one flare, and he wasted it earlier.
Maybe they executed her for killing him?
Oh, wait - are you thinking you saw Cooper and KC in the exit interviews?
That's Bonnie and Clyde. I don't think we see Cooper of KC again after Cooper
dies in the hotel.
The very last scene showed Cooper and KC standing over the warden
pointing spears at him on the ground. Apparently Moses (the nice guy
with KC) died but Cooper didn't.
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And if KC was for Child Killer, why wasn't she CK? Because KC can be
pronounced "Casey?" So as not to invoke Louis C.K.? (This isn't important.)
I have NO idea how the 'the name tag is your last name' works for her.
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From the flashback of Chase's mother being shot, it didn't look at all
like Cooper shot her intentionally. It seemed to be in the midst of a
struggle for the gun that the mother aimed at Cooper. So why did he tell
Chase that "I shot your mother," leaving her to think that he did so
intentionally. She even said "you framed me" or something like that.
Yep, none of that made sense either.
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Why did Cooper and KC call the island "one land" at the end?
THERE it is.
:D
I told you you'd be really annoyed at how it's pronounced!
The Peach liked that. I hated it.
I hated it too!
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(I see from
Wiki's episode recaps that Bonnie and Clyde called the cannibal's island
"two-land.")
I missed that.
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After the official told Casey how old she really was, Casey asked why
all the people in the tank appeared to be the same age as she had seen
them on the island. Did she get a real explanation?
They said they were the same age as when they committed the crimes or were
sentenced or whatever.
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Was the implant
supposed to hide everyone's age from everyone in the simulation, not
just hide a person's age from themself?
And why did they need an implant in the first place since people in
general didn't come back from the simulation? Didn't they say that Chase
was the first person who had been redeemed in the sim?
Yeah, and before they knew she was innocent (I think)
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The experts said that the simulation was a chance for people to be
redeemed, but what was recognized as redemption other than the discovery
of actual innocence, which occurred accidentally in Chase's case?
I have no freaking idea.
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Guess that's enough!
Nah, not nearly!
:D
Okay, old Chase? She's not played by the same actress. She's played by THIS
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0173124/mediaviewer/rm2966911744
I wondered about that.
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So why didn't they put the bad old age make-up on young Chase? Or hire an old
woman and save the trouble? How about using Chase's mom, Maria Conchita
Alonso?
So Texas arrested Chase for a murder she didn't commit, stuck her away for 25
years, experimented on her, and gave all her money away. And told her the
whole thing was worth $200 cash.
Um - why is no one talking about the incredible lawsuit she has? Hell, the
hush money alone should be in the tens of millions.
I told the Peach that something was funky with the timeline, because in all
the flashbacks the cars were from the 70s or so. I assumed that Chase and the
others had been in prison for decades (or all the care in the Dominican
Republic are from the 70s) and that the finale would show her in our time.
But instead the final is set 25 years in the future, so all the cars in the
flashback should have been from 2019!
That's a good point.
Post by anim8rfsk
Did you notice that Chase's exit interview shrink was Tayla from Stargate
Atlantis SGA (the "A" stands for: ATLANTIS!!!)?
She looked really familiar. I was going to look up the episode cast but
forgot about it.

--Robin
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2020-06-28 01:22:33 UTC
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OK, I watched episodes 6 and 7 last night. It helped that they were on
the short side.
Overall I thought the show was more blah than bad. (Other than the
scenes of Taylor on the cannibal's island, which were like some very bad
horror movie.)
The Peach agrees with you. I thought that if she was more familiar with the
stuff they were ripping off, like LOST, and, I think, El Barco, she might be
more annoyed with it.
Post by Robin Miller
(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Yeah, that's a problem. I kept figuring that the prison stuff was also
virtual, although they didn't adequately address it. She probably wouldn't
just be happily walking to town unaided with $200 in her pocket at the end
either.
Wanted to add that there was no reason for the authorities at the prison
to bring Chase back at that point (in episode three) anyway. It only
happened because the writers wanted Chase to be in on the secret, but no
other prisoners were brought back.

--Robin
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2020-06-28 05:16:00 UTC
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OK, I watched episodes 6 and 7 last night. It helped that they were on
the short side.
Overall I thought the show was more blah than bad. (Other than the
scenes of Taylor on the cannibal's island, which were like some very bad
horror movie.)
The Peach agrees with you. I thought that if she was more familiar with the
stuff they were ripping off, like LOST, and, I think, El Barco, she might be
more annoyed with it.
Post by Robin Miller
(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Yeah, that's a problem. I kept figuring that the prison stuff was also
virtual, although they didn't adequately address it. She probably wouldn't
just be happily walking to town unaided with $200 in her pocket at the end
either.
Wanted to add that there was no reason for the authorities at the prison
to bring Chase back at that point (in episode three) anyway. It only
happened because the writers wanted Chase to be in on the secret, but no
other prisoners were brought back.
--Robin
Yeah, that whole "you're not a prisoner any more but there's still interviews
to do" was crap. If she's not a prisoner, she's not a prisoner.
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2020-06-27 23:27:31 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Post by Robin Miller
Wasn't Blair (the angel of death nurse) still alive? I wondered why they
didn't show her at the end, only Cooper and KC.
I suspect another cut scene.
Post by Robin Miller
And if KC was for Child Killer, why wasn't she CK?
It was killer of children.
Post by Robin Miller
From the flashback of Chase's mother being shot, it didn't look at all
like Cooper shot her intentionally. It seemed to be in the midst of a
struggle for the gun that the mother aimed at Cooper. So why did he tell
Chase that "I shot your mother," leaving her to think that he did so
intentionally. She even said "you framed me" or something like that.
Well, accident or not, he did let her take the blame for it.
Post by Robin Miller
The experts said that the simulation was a chance for people to be
redeemed, but what was recognized as redemption other than the discovery
of actual innocence, which occurred accidentally in Chase's case?
That's what one of the experts was complaining about: there's no end game
criteria to be met. Even the characters were complaining about how
nonsensical the show is.
Robin Miller
2020-06-28 01:02:41 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Yes, I remember your saying that.
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Wasn't Blair (the angel of death nurse) still alive? I wondered why they
didn't show her at the end, only Cooper and KC.
I suspect another cut scene.
Post by Robin Miller
And if KC was for Child Killer, why wasn't she CK?
It was killer of children.
OK, that makes sense (sort of). :-)
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From the flashback of Chase's mother being shot, it didn't look at all
like Cooper shot her intentionally. It seemed to be in the midst of a
struggle for the gun that the mother aimed at Cooper. So why did he tell
Chase that "I shot your mother," leaving her to think that he did so
intentionally. She even said "you framed me" or something like that.
Well, accident or not, he did let her take the blame for it.
Good point.
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Post by Robin Miller
The experts said that the simulation was a chance for people to be
redeemed, but what was recognized as redemption other than the discovery
of actual innocence, which occurred accidentally in Chase's case?
That's what one of the experts was complaining about: there's no end game
criteria to be met. Even the characters were complaining about how
nonsensical the show is.
Thanks for participating!

--Robin
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2020-06-28 01:19:53 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Just wanted to add--that makes the whole prison escape sequence in
episode three a cheat then--something that literally could not have
happened. I really dislike that.

--Robin
anim8rfsk
2020-06-28 05:13:56 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Just wanted to add--that makes the whole prison escape sequence in
episode three a cheat then--something that literally could not have
happened. I really dislike that.
--Robin
The Peach says Old Chase is only 45. I asked her why she was made up to look
60. That's when the fight began.
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2020-06-28 05:45:08 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Just wanted to add--that makes the whole prison escape sequence in
episode three a cheat then--something that literally could not have
happened. I really dislike that.
--Robin
The Peach says Old Chase is only 45. I asked her why she was made up to look
60. That's when the fight began.
45? OMG.

Natalie Martinez is 35, so + 25 = 60, which corresponds to the apparent
age of old Chase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Martinez

And, like you said, why did they pile obviously fake make-up on a
different actress? Either pile it on Natalie or use an age-appropriate
actress.

--Robin
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2020-06-28 06:24:04 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Just wanted to add--that makes the whole prison escape sequence in
episode three a cheat then--something that literally could not have
happened. I really dislike that.
The Peach says Old Chase is only 45. I asked her why she was made up to look
60. That's when the fight began.
45? OMG.
Natalie Martinez is 35, so + 25 = 60, which corresponds to the apparent
age of old Chase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Martinez
And, like you said, why did they pile obviously fake make-up on a
different actress? Either pile it on Natalie or use an age-appropriate
actress.
Especially now. I mean, a young actress playing an old character is
ageist and bigoted!
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2020-06-28 12:30:43 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Just wanted to add--that makes the whole prison escape sequence in
episode three a cheat then--something that literally could not have
happened. I really dislike that.
--Robin
The Peach says Old Chase is only 45. I asked her why she was made up to look
60. That's when the fight began.
45? OMG.
Natalie Martinez is 35, so + 25 = 60, which corresponds to the apparent
age of old Chase.
That was my math.

Peach math:

"She's about 22, 23"
me: bah. she's 35 if she's a day!
"Nah, she did a single tour in the marines, that's 4 years. So that takes her
to 22. Then they went home to the ranch for a minute"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Martinez
And, like you said, why did they pile obviously fake make-up on a
different actress? Either pile it on Natalie or use an age-appropriate
actress.
--Robin
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2020-06-28 15:39:21 UTC
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(spoilers for people who haven't watched this)
If Chase was really 60(?) years old, she couldn't have fought four guys
at once during her attempt to escape the prison in episode three.
Which was the upcoming WTF moment I mentioned in a previous post.
Just wanted to add--that makes the whole prison escape sequence in
episode three a cheat then--something that literally could not have
happened. I really dislike that.
--Robin
The Peach says Old Chase is only 45. I asked her why she was made up to look
60. That's when the fight began.
45? OMG.
Natalie Martinez is 35, so + 25 = 60, which corresponds to the apparent
age of old Chase.
That was my math.
"She's about 22, 23"
me: bah. she's 35 if she's a day!
"Nah, she did a single tour in the marines, that's 4 years. So that takes her
to 22. Then they went home to the ranch for a minute"
A little fuzzy there ...

:-)

--Robin
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