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Biden's Morphing Nationwide Mask Mandate
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BTR1701
2020-10-14 02:43:06 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.

Huh?

So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-14 03:21:57 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
Cross the state line. Make an immediate stop. Open the windows fully for
a complete exchange of air. Head to another destination in that state.

There. You are no longer in interstate travel, and there is no longer
any air in the passenger compartment of your car from the foreign state.
All germs are locally sourced.
thinbluemime2
2020-10-14 03:34:48 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
You'll be fine... just don't travel to another planet

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BTR1701
2020-10-14 04:03:07 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
You'll be fine... just don't travel to another planet
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/bgYdDDqeVJ6GqSZ4JbH6D4-970-80.jpg
I was just at Devil's Tower!

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Ubiquitous
2020-10-14 08:26:44 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I
drive from state to state?
You'll be fine... just don't travel to another planet
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/bgYdDDqeVJ6GqSZ4JbH6D4-970-80.jpg
I was just at Devil's Tower!
https://twitter.com/btr1701/status/1312583172140552193?s=21
Cool. We went there on a month-long camping trip one summer, circa 1976.

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Ubiquitous
2020-10-14 08:32:41 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
Speaing of idiocy, did you see what Biden did with his faskmask a couple
days ago?

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love this country.
moviePig
2020-10-14 14:38:36 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would. Has Trump-autocracy already become the norm?
BTR1701
2020-10-14 14:50:36 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
FPP
2020-10-14 15:08:41 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that's be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators. And cell phone diddlers.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-14 15:47:26 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
BTR1701
2020-10-14 16:38:45 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
moviePig
2020-10-14 18:32:55 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
BTR1701
2020-10-14 18:42:04 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
moviePig
2020-10-14 18:45:24 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
BTR1701
2020-10-14 18:50:25 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
suzeeq
2020-10-14 19:41:11 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators. And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
Maybe by that time, there will no longer be mask regulations.
FPP
2020-10-14 23:52:27 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president--
that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know...  When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
Maybe by that time, there will no longer be mask regulations.
Pity... "The Harris Regime" had such a nice ring to it.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-14 19:41:17 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.

Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
BTR1701
2020-10-14 21:10:45 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.

(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
moviePig
2020-10-14 21:40:41 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
BTR1701
2020-10-14 22:32:54 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
No, it's the rest of us who worry whenever a nut gets behind the wheel...
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president--
that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage
in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states
and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be
using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI
agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways
and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you
who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know...  When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why?  What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
And nobody outside of the Thannyverse has seriously said it should (or
would) be.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
Well, counselor, I think you should be appointed as the Mask Mask
Mandate Watchdog, for all of Usenet.

That way, you can remain hyper-vigilant for any sign of Biden takin'
'way yur Freedumb!
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
Post by moviePig
Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
You see mandates where they don't exist.
You see voter fraud where it doesn't exist.

You seem to have a real problem.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as
president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage
in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free
states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I
drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd
be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have
FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways
and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side
of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you
who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in
your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know...  When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
Post by moviePig
Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why?  What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
You see mandates where they don't exist.
You see voter fraud where it doesn't exist.
You seem to have a real problem.
Do you think he's thinking in terms of Anim8r's man dates?
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
Post by moviePig
Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
But others are in effect, and without rampant absurd citations afaik.
Is this where "They're coming for my guns" becomes "They're coming to
smother me in my car"? (N.B.: I personally don't use a seatbelt...)
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
But others are in effect, and without rampant absurd citations afaik.
Not everywhere. There are plenty of states that haven't gone hysterical
over the whole thing. Try traveling through Montana-- which has a Democrat
governor, just to forestall FPP's "stupid Republican" comments-- and life
is pretty much like it was in 2019.

And those are the places a President Harris will want to bring to heel.
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
But others are in effect, and without rampant absurd citations afaik.
Not everywhere. There are plenty of states that haven't gone hysterical
over the whole thing. Try traveling through Montana-- which has a Democrat
governor, just to forestall FPP's "stupid Republican" comments-- and life
is pretty much like it was in 2019.
And those are the places a President Harris will want to bring to heel.
And, BOOM, goes the fuckwit. 8 fucking hours ago:

"Montana COVID cases threaten to overwhelm health care system."

https://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/montana-covid-cases-threaten-to-overwhelm-health-care-system/article_c1aaa337-0b50-5798-99ef-2e1ee9c396b6.html

Fuckwit.

"I will put this very simply," said Dr. Bridget Brennan with Benefis
Health System in Great Falls. "We are experiencing a public health
crisis. The number of positive COVID cases is rising so quickly that it
is threatening to overwhelm the health care resources here in the state."

In recent weeks, the state has experienced drastic increases in the
numbers of COVID-19 positive patients and hospitals are reaching or
exceeding the capacity of their intensive care units, Brennan said.

"At Benefis Health System we began to see an increase not only in the
number of hospitalized patients from Great Falls and our usual region,
but we were also seeing an increase in the number of patients
transferred to us from other parts of the state where ICUs were full,"
Brennan said."

Fuckwit.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
Post by moviePig
Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
But others are in effect, and without rampant absurd citations afaik.
Not everywhere. There are plenty of states that haven't gone hysterical
over the whole thing. Try traveling through Montana-- which has a Democrat
governor, just to forestall FPP's "stupid Republican" comments-- and life
is pretty much like it was in 2019.
And those are the places a President Harris will want to bring to heel.
"Montana COVID cases threaten to overwhelm health care system."
https://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/montana-covid-cases-threaten-to-overwhelm-health-care-system/article_c1aaa337-0b50-5798-99ef-2e1ee9c396b6.html
Fuckwit.
"I will put this very simply," said Dr. Bridget Brennan with Benefis
Health System in Great Falls. "We are experiencing a public health
crisis. The number of positive COVID cases is rising so quickly that it
is threatening to overwhelm the health care resources here in the state."
In recent weeks, the state has experienced drastic increases in the
numbers of COVID-19 positive patients and hospitals are reaching or
exceeding the capacity of their intensive care units, Brennan said.
"At Benefis Health System we began to see an increase not only in the
number of hospitalized patients from Great Falls and our usual region,
but we were also seeing an increase in the number of patients
transferred to us from other parts of the state where ICUs were full,"
Brennan said."
Fuckwit.
Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.

Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
Post by moviePig
Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has any lone driver been cited for it.
That's because this mandate is only a promise at this point.
But others are in effect, and without rampant absurd citations afaik.
Not everywhere. There are plenty of states that haven't gone hysterical
over the whole thing. Try traveling through Montana-- which has a Democrat
governor, just to forestall FPP's "stupid Republican" comments-- and life
is pretty much like it was in 2019.
And those are the places a President Harris will want to bring to heel.
"Montana COVID cases threaten to overwhelm health care system."
https://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/montana-covid-cases-threaten-to-overwhelm-health-care-system/article_c1aaa337-0b50-5798-99ef-2e1ee9c396b6.html
Fuckwit.
"I will put this very simply," said Dr. Bridget Brennan with Benefis
Health System in Great Falls. "We are experiencing a public health
crisis. The number of positive COVID cases is rising so quickly that it
is threatening to overwhelm the health care resources here in the state."
In recent weeks, the state has experienced drastic increases in the
numbers of COVID-19 positive patients and hospitals are reaching or
exceeding the capacity of their intensive care units, Brennan said.
"At Benefis Health System we began to see an increase not only in the
number of hospitalized patients from Great Falls and our usual region,
but we were also seeing an increase in the number of patients
transferred to us from other parts of the state where ICUs were full,"
Brennan said."
Fuckwit.
Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.
Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
Sounds like you don't understand that Dem governors can't MAKE morons smart.

Sounds like your buddy, Trump could fix this simply by telling his
fawning worshippers to simply wear a mask - but, instead, tells them
that wearing a mask GIVES you covid.

Sounds like you're a desperate klown who knows his party's time is up.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.
Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
Sounds like you don't understand that Dem governors can't MAKE morons smart.
Sounds like your buddy, Trump could fix this simply by telling his
fawning worshippers to simply wear a mask
LOL! So when a Republican state has a Wuhan spike, it's the Republican
politicians' fault. But when a Dem state has a Wuhan spike, it's Trump's
fault.

Do you even listen to yourself?
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Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.
Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
Sounds like you don't understand that Dem governors can't MAKE morons smart.
Sounds like your buddy, Trump could fix this simply by telling his
fawning worshippers to simply wear a mask
LOL! So when a Republican state has a Wuhan spike, it's the Republican
politicians' fault. But when a Dem state has a Wuhan spike, it's Trump's
fault.
Nope... it's all Trump's fault. He's encouraging not wearing masks.
He's hosting super spreader events. He's NOT using the powers of his
office to help. He's driving the upward spikes.

It's ALL Trump's fault.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.
Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
Sounds like you don't understand that Dem governors can't MAKE morons smart.
Sounds like your buddy, Trump could fix this simply by telling his
fawning worshippers to simply wear a mask
LOL! So when a Republican state has a Wuhan spike, it's the Republican
politicians' fault. But when a Dem state has a Wuhan spike, it's Trump's
fault.
Nope... it's all Trump's fault.  He's encouraging not wearing masks.
He's hosting super spreader events.  He's NOT using the powers of his
office to help.  He's driving the upward spikes.
It's ALL Trump's fault.
I think Trump might lose the popular vote by ten million even. How
'bout you?
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Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.
Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
Sounds like you don't understand that Dem governors can't MAKE morons smart.
Sounds like your buddy, Trump could fix this simply by telling his
fawning worshippers to simply wear a mask
LOL! So when a Republican state has a Wuhan spike, it's the Republican
politicians' fault. But when a Dem state has a Wuhan spike, it's Trump's
fault.
Nope... it's all Trump's fault.  He's encouraging not wearing masks.
He's hosting super spreader events.  He's NOT using the powers of his
office to help.  He's driving the upward spikes.
It's ALL Trump's fault.
I think Trump might lose the popular vote by ten million even.  How
'bout you?
I think the popular vote will be closer than you'd think, but I think
Biden will kill it in the Electoral College.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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LOL! So when a Republican state has a Wuhan spike, it's the Republican
politicians' fault. But when a Dem state has a Wuhan spike, it's Trump's
fault.
Nope... it's all Trump's fault. He's encouraging not wearing masks.
He's hosting super spreader events. He's NOT using the powers of his
office to help. He's driving the upward spikes.
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.

Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
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LOL! So when a Republican state has a Wuhan spike, it's the Republican
politicians' fault. But when a Dem state has a Wuhan spike, it's Trump's
fault.
Nope... it's all Trump's fault. He's encouraging not wearing masks.
He's hosting super spreader events. He's NOT using the powers of his
office to help. He's driving the upward spikes.
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.

Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.

I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.

So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.

He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.

Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had, and the greatest existential threat, outside of WW II.

He encourages white supremacists, encourages conspiracy nuts (like
Q-Anon) and doesn't believe in ANY checks and balances on his power.
None of that is hyperbole.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-10-20 00:38:48 UTC
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Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.

Can't win the Senate? Either abolish it or add states until they can
control it.

Can't control the Supreme Court? Just keep adding justices until they
can.

Can't win the presidency under the rules the Constitution sets out?
Abolish the Electoral College.


But it's Trump that's a threat to the rule of law.
FPP
2020-10-20 03:00:02 UTC
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Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?

Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
Already done. By Republicans.

Are they going to make a new rule so that a sitting president can't get
his nomination through in his 4th year, even though there's nothing in
the Constitution, or law to prevent it?
Already done. By Republicans.

Are they going to violate that new rule, when it's to their advantage?
Already done. By Republicans.

I've already told you before... since you supported wannabee dictator
Trump, you klowns have ZERO credibility to complain.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-10-20 16:04:04 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
trotsky
2020-10-20 16:50:25 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Pulling shit out of McTurtle's ass is not how the system works.

You must be an amateur proctologist. Hey Assman!
moviePig
2020-10-20 18:24:17 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Yes, their actions were legal. But their rationale -- *which they
volunteered* and subsequently ditched -- makes them unconscionable.

Of course, that *too* is how the system works...
FPP
2020-10-20 22:14:58 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
Lie all you want... everybody knows what they did was wrong.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-10-21 02:53:06 UTC
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Post by FPP
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Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.

Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
moviePig
2020-10-21 03:32:06 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-21 03:59:05 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
There's nothing new in Washington politics. Repeating myself, the
Republicans reduced the nuber of the Court by attrition from 10 to 7 to
prevent Andrew Johnson from making appointments. The number actually
fell to 8. Once Grant became president, it went up to 9.
moviePig
2020-10-21 13:52:53 UTC
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Post by FPP
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Post by FPP
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
There's nothing new in Washington politics. Repeating myself, the
Republicans reduced the nuber of the Court by attrition from 10 to 7 to
prevent Andrew Johnson from making appointments. The number actually
fell to 8. Once Grant became president, it went up to 9.
Yes, it's the brazen rule-switch re the "last year of a Presidential
term" that's the outrage. But neither is hypocrisy new in Washington.
FPP
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as
opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
There's nothing new in Washington politics. Repeating myself, the
Republicans reduced the nuber of the Court by attrition from 10 to 7 to
prevent Andrew Johnson from making appointments. The number actually
fell to 8. Once Grant became president, it went up to 9.
Yes, it's the brazen rule-switch re the "last year of a Presidential
term" that's the outrage.  But neither is hypocrisy new in Washington.
The Republicans reduced the number of the justices to 8 for over a whole
year. Never heard a peep about it.

Cruz and McCain vowed to keep the seat open for ANOTHER 4 years, if
Hillary won - for a total of 5 full years. Never heard a peep about
that, either.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/nov/01/republican-senators-oppose-clinton-supreme-court-nominee

So when you hear the fucking hypocrites wail and gnash their teeth at
ratfucking the number of justices, remember that.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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. . .
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
There's nothing new in Washington politics. Repeating myself, the
Republicans reduced the nuber of the Court by attrition from 10 to 7 to
prevent Andrew Johnson from making appointments. The number actually
fell to 8. Once Grant became president, it went up to 9.
Yes, it's the brazen rule-switch re the "last year of a Presidential
term" that's the outrage. But neither is hypocrisy new in Washington.
It's just not a rule at all. The Senate cannot be required to consent.
I'm saying there is no hypocrisy here at all, just politics, and it was
the Republicans that did it first.

I can also recall that two Nixon appointees in a row were rejected by
the Senate for the Abe Fortas vacancy. I think the Senate forced Nixon
to withdraw both; neither received a floor vote. I haven't looked it up
to confirm that.

The main thing that's new is that we have a sitting president with very
little interest in politics, who largely conceded judicial nominations
to the majority leader of the Senate.

That's not what the Founding Fathers had in mind, that the president
would take such a passive role in judicial appointments.
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2020-10-21 17:53:05 UTC
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. . .
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
There's nothing new in Washington politics. Repeating myself, the
Republicans reduced the nuber of the Court by attrition from 10 to 7 to
prevent Andrew Johnson from making appointments. The number actually
fell to 8. Once Grant became president, it went up to 9.
Yes, it's the brazen rule-switch re the "last year of a Presidential
term" that's the outrage. But neither is hypocrisy new in Washington.
It's just not a rule at all. The Senate cannot be required to consent.
I'm saying there is no hypocrisy here at all, just politics, and it was
the Republicans that did it first.
I can also recall that two Nixon appointees in a row were rejected by
the Senate for the Abe Fortas vacancy. I think the Senate forced Nixon
to withdraw both; neither received a floor vote. I haven't looked it up
to confirm that.
The main thing that's new is that we have a sitting president with very
little interest in politics, who largely conceded judicial nominations
to the majority leader of the Senate.
That's not what the Founding Fathers had in mind, that the president
would take such a passive role in judicial appointments.
No, it's not a rule, but McConnell/Graham declared it a "rule", albeit a
short-lived one, subject to death by inconveniencce.

Now that you mention it, it's odd the FF placed judicial appointments in
the hands of an individual whose qualifications for the task could
hardly be more incidental. It's as though they regarded a lifetime
tenure to be sufficient guarantee of eventual competence and character.
FPP
2020-10-21 05:21:31 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual
2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but their
choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.

They blew up the Senate for spite. That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but their
choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as
opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but
their choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones... and they HAVE been instrumental in getting
him elected.
Obama managed to find a few good ones... so I'll leave that bit of
wisdom to Joe.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones...
Biden is talking about putting Yoga Pants Garcetti in charge of Housing
and Urban Development.

Because sure, in the space of his tenure as mayor of L.A., he literally
turned the city into a blasted wasteland that now resembles the slums of
Mumbai, so naturally we should put him a position to do the same to
America as a whole.
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And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones...
Biden is talking about putting Yoga Pants Garcetti in charge of Housing
and Urban Development.
Because sure, in the space of his tenure as mayor of L.A., he literally
turned the city into a blasted wasteland that now resembles the slums of
Mumbai, so naturally we should put him a position to do the same to
America as a whole.
Well, fuckwit, YOU wanted him gone... what's the problem?
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones...
Biden is talking about putting Yoga Pants Garcetti in charge of Housing
and Urban Development.
Because sure, in the space of his tenure as mayor of L.A., he literally
turned the city into a blasted wasteland that now resembles the slums of
Mumbai,
Don't believe everything you see in the movies.
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And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones...
Biden is talking about putting Yoga Pants Garcetti in charge of Housing
and Urban Development.
Because sure, in the space of his tenure as mayor of L.A., he literally
turned the city into a blasted wasteland that now resembles the slums of
Mumbai,
Don't believe everything you see in the movies.
As opposed to seeing refrigerator trucks full of dead bodies, and
outside makeshift field hospitals to treat the thousands of people Trump
has neglected or infected.

Yeah, LA is so bad... unlike, say almost every big city in America right
now where the bodies are being stacked up like cord wood.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is
entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as
opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.
How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but
their choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones... and they HAVE been instrumental in getting
him elected.
Obama managed to find a few good ones... so I'll leave that bit of
wisdom to Joe.
Every single Republican Senator voted for the tax scam, I never checked
on the House. I don't know of any good ones.
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White
House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus
is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as
opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to
have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in
hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.
How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most
cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel
community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state
legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and
fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the
presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but
their choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
And yet our guy Biden wants to add Repukes as cabinet members...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-cabinet-republicans/?
There are some decent ones... and they HAVE been instrumental in
getting him elected.
Obama managed to find a few good ones... so I'll leave that bit of
wisdom to Joe.
Every single Republican Senator voted for the tax scam, I never checked
on the House.  I don't know of any good ones.
Certainly nobody currently serving in Washington.
I'd give Colin Powell a job... or Bill Weld.
Maybe Charlie Baker... Evan McMullin.

There are a few... very few. Like Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, for
instance.

-He supports abortion rights

-He supported an evidence-based, compassionate approach to reforming the
juvenile justice system.

-Big supporter of renewable energy.

-Signed pharmaceutical transparency bill that requires insulin
manufacturers to report costs of making drugs.

-Sandoval is a big supporter of Obamacare. He was the first Republican
governor to fully embrace the Medicaid expansion and he set up a
state-run ACA exchange.

If you turn over enough rocks, you can find a few... and that's all
we're talking about.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-21 14:00:10 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but their
choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
But not suicidal. So, yes, that overkill remains inexplicable to me.
FPP
2020-10-21 14:57:24 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as
opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but
their choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
But not suicidal.  So, yes, that overkill remains inexplicable to me.
Oh I'd say they have a death wish, all right. They fastened themselves
to the biggest boat anchor in American politics.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but their
choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
This post from a Reddit user:

--------
"It’s been said that McConnell is afraid of passing a 2.2 trillion
stimulus before an election that may result in a Democratic majority in
the Senate.
He wants the blame on Democrats for that deficit for future
Republican candidates to use in campaign ads. He’s a career politician
who looks at his big picture. He’s already thinking of 2024 and wants no
part of a stimulus that will cause that deficit.
That's why he has no problem bailing out large corporations vs
little people. He has lobbyists to please. We can’t grease his
pocketbook later - they will. Helping us does nothing for him."
--------

I must remember to forgive myself for not getting politics. Hell, I
can't even keep up with the machinations in DUNE...
FPP
2020-10-21 22:19:46 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as
opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How
is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Well, that's the way it bounces *now*...
The could have just voted Garland (and everybody else) down - but
their choice was to stick their finger in Obama's eye.
They blew up the Senate for spite.  That's what kind of people they
are... low and venial.
--------
   "It’s been said that McConnell is afraid of passing a 2.2 trillion
stimulus before an election that may result in a Democratic majority in
the Senate.
   He wants the blame on Democrats for that deficit for future
Republican candidates to use in campaign ads. He’s a career politician
who looks at his big picture. He’s already thinking of 2024 and wants no
part of a stimulus that will cause that deficit.
   That's why he has no problem bailing out large corporations vs
little people. He has lobbyists to please. We can’t grease his
pocketbook later - they will. Helping us does nothing for him."
--------
I must remember to forgive myself for not getting politics.  Hell, I
can't even keep up with the machinations in DUNE...
It gets easier the second and third run throughs...
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't. They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
There's no right to a hearing. Hearings are actually a rather new aspect
of the process. Most justices in American history never had hearings.
They made up a new rule. Just for the black guy. Then changed it back
as soon as the white guy came into office. Then they lied about it.

And the fact of the matter that NONE of that ratfucking was necessary.
They could have accomplished the same goal without lying and cheating -
they just CHOSE to do it that way.
And, now, they reap what they've sown.
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Regardless, the Dems didn't have the votes to force a hearing. That's
the way the ball bounces when you don't control both the presidency and
the Senate.
Yup, but if they take all 3, they'll have every right to add to the court.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state
legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
Nope, he didn't.  They denied his pick a hearing because of a new rule
they created just for him.
Lie all you want... everybody knows what they did was wrong.
Here's my idea: the Dems expand the no. of Justices to 14, thus you have
two sets of 7 Justices to handle two sets of cases at the same time.
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
So please explain how the 'advise and consent' worked here.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
And now Dems will have to fix that by adding Justices to the court.
That's how our system works.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-21 12:35:41 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state
legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
How?
Are they going to steal a Supreme Court seat by not letting a sitting
president have his pick?
The sitting president had his pick. He didn't have the votes in the
Senate to confirm. That's how the system works.
And now Dems will have to fix that by adding Justices to the court.
That's how our system works.
The Dems have to fix all the horseshit the Repukes do. That's how our
system works.
trotsky
2020-10-20 12:43:56 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again. There's ZERO logic in that. A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Post by FPP
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections. How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen. He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
Which right wing conspiracy site did you see that on?
FPP
2020-10-20 13:00:56 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
Which right wing conspiracy site did you see that on?
Republicans ratfucked the Executive Branch.
Republicans ratfucked the Senate.
Republicans ratfucked the Judiciary.

So, naturally, to Thanny, them Dems are to blame.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-20 16:54:26 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state
legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
Which right wing conspiracy site did you see that on?
Republicans ratfucked the Executive Branch.
Republicans ratfucked the Senate.
Republicans ratfucked the Judiciary.
So, naturally, to Thanny, them Dems are to blame.
And in about two weeks they'll have fatfucked themselves.
FPP
2020-10-20 22:18:01 UTC
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It's ALL Trump's fault.
So by THAT logic you would be quite happy to see GOP gains at the
state and senate level while your guy gets the White House. Because
nearly everything I've read of yours suggests your focus is entirely
on Trump and hardly at all on Congress or the state houses.
Note that I'm going strictly on what you've written as opposed to what
I think you think.
Then you'd be dead wrong again.  There's ZERO logic in that.  A
president without the Senate gets very little done.
I am quite aware of that which is why I said you seemed to have almost
no interest in this election besides Trump's downfall. Given I know
that and assumed you did too I guessed you were engaging in hyperbole.
Statehouses control much of the voting in the elections.  How is who
votes and how not paramount?
Not to mention who are the state governors and state senators and
representatives who while they may not be as important in the grand
scheme of things as their Washington counterparts DO matter.
I would guess they'll even be more important than usual 2020-2024 as
they'll be the ones in charge of economic recovery in their states
over the next 4 years. This recovery isn't gonig to be solely driven
from Washington and it's certain soem states' recoveries will be
stronger than others'
States run the elections, states draw up the maps (in most cases), state
legislatures pass the laws that govern the elections.
So it's actually states that are MORE important than federal office.
But, yeah, Trump has to be #1 on everybody's list.
He's in charge of so much (like the DOJ, FBI, Intel community) - that he
can ratfuck this country worse than any 10 states or state
legislatures,
or senators or congressmen.  He's a crook, liar and fundamentally
un-American.
Until he goes, nothing will change. Democracy is on the ballot, because
with 4 more years of Trump, this country will never pull itself out.
And I'm not exaggerating. Trump is the greatest threat to the rule of
law we've ever had
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
Which right wing conspiracy site did you see that on?
Republicans ratfucked the Executive Branch.
Republicans ratfucked the Senate.
Republicans ratfucked the Judiciary.
So, naturally, to Thanny, them Dems are to blame.
And in about two weeks they'll have fatfucked themselves.
And we're helping. We dropped off our ballots this morning.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-20 17:28:47 UTC
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. . .
Except it's the Dems that are intent on nuking every branch of
government that they can't control.
Can't win the Senate? Either abolish it or add states until they can
control it.
Adding states requires an act of law, so that's something that can't
just be done unilaterally.

The 23rd Amendment, as far as I can tell, precludes adding Washington DC
as a state. It's a stupid, unnecessary amendment. Washington could have
had voting rights all along except for being disenfranchised under
federal law. Note that the Virginia side was never disenfranchised but
voted as if it were part of Virginia. An amendment wasn't needed to
overturn bad federal law.

I have no idea what your problem is with adding Puerto Rico as a state.
The choice long been theirs: Remain a commonwealth affiliated with the
United States with some autonomy and very special federal law allowing
massive industrial subsidies, become a nation fully independent of the
United States, or an affiliated without its own defense or diplomats like
the former Trust Territories in the Pacific, or become a state.

Becoming a state doesn't win the plebescites they've held because they
just don't want to pay federal taxes like the rest of the country and
that would end other special subsidies they receive.

But if they ever wanted to be treated with equality and fully federated
into the union, why not?
Post by BTR1701
Can't control the Supreme Court? Just keep adding justices until they
can.
The last time the number of the Court was tinkered with was by
Republicans. The number of Justices was shrunk by attrition in 1866 from
10 to 7, to prevent Andrew Johnson from nominating any anti-civil-rights
justice. The number of the court fell to just 8, however. After Johnson
was succeeded by Grant, the number of the court was increased to 9.

The Republicans intended to retain control of the Supreme Court to
thwart an incumbent president, a Democrat, whom they treated like the
enemy. Maybe they never should have given the Democrats the idea.

The reason the court's number was increased from the original 6 to 10
wasn't to do with preventing ties but the circuit-riding requirement
and that the nation's population and territory greatly increased. The
Wikipedia article is confusing in that circuit riding ended in 1901 with
the passage of the Circuit Court of Appeals act but wasn't abolished in
law till 1911. It took 10 years to fully establish all circuit courts?
Post by BTR1701
Can't win the presidency under the rules the Constitution sets out?
Abolish the Electoral College.
This argument of yours is complete bullshit. The Constitution
established the Electoral College but left it to the states to appoint
or elect Electors.

Win by plurality/winner take all DOES NOT protect minorities. Since when
do you not acknowledge, if not protect, the rights of minorities? Even
in a state in which Democrats regularly win statewide, there is a
sizeable Republican minority. Why shouldn't the minority get 2/5ths of a
state's Electors?

The Founding Fathers didn't envision win-by-plurality/winner-take-all. A
48% win-by-plurality should not entitle that presidential nominee to
every Elector in that state's delegation.

Amazingly, win-by-plurality isn't even tyranny of the majority!

It's some serious fuck to argue that the Electors shouldn't reflect the
voters' choice, given a large enough minority of voters.
Post by BTR1701
But it's Trump that's a threat to the rule of law.
We have a lot of bad laws. State laws in choosing Electors are about as
unrepresentative as you can get.

If Trump actually refuses to prepare to leave at the end of his term
(either the end of this term or the second term if re-elected) as
he's said, that's a threat to the rule of law.
trotsky
2020-10-17 12:49:16 UTC
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Sounds like that Democrat governor has a lot to answer for.
Meanwhile, the WHO has announced that lockdowns are not the answer to
dealing with Wuhan Flu and more often than not are counterproductive.
Sounds like you don't understand that Dem governors can't MAKE morons smart.
Sounds like your buddy, Trump could fix this simply by telling his
fawning worshippers to simply wear a mask - but, instead, tells them
that wearing a mask GIVES you covid.
Sounds like you're a desperate klown who knows his party's time is up.
https://imgur.com/r/ABoringDystopia/9TyXkdS
trotsky
2020-10-15 16:31:03 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
How? By calling the FBI on me? What a wonderful advertisement for a Harris
administration.
(And as a formal federal agent myself, I know what the response to Gladys
Kravitz calling up and reporting her bare-faced neighbor would be: "Thanks,
ma'am, we'll get right on that. <click> Now where were on that $20 million
counterfeiting ring?")
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Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
Assuming you mean "authoritarian" as pejorative ...why? What makes a
nationwide mandate more repugnant than a state- or city-wide one?
Again, the objective here isn't necessarily to fill the jails, but
rather to underscore the seriousness of the infection -- and to
encourage everyone to respect the concern, even if they don't share it.
There's no actual concern inside my car.
Or in your pants.
trotsky
2020-10-15 16:28:18 UTC
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Biden and Harris say 'nationwide mandate'. They don't seem to ever put any
limitation on their authoritarian decree. Besides, if they're taking about
interstate travel and making us wear them INSIDE OUR CARS as we drive
across state lines, I can't imagine the mandate would stop with walking
around the block or lounging at the beach or hiking in the woods.
It's amazing to me how you can have such diarrhea of the cybermouth in
light of the Trump superspreader event. Then again, we've covered this
a trillion times, being an anonyshit with no testicles you're unable to
levy a discouraging word at Trumpsky.
FPP
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president--
that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know...  When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
More importantly, as I've surmised, your neighbors might enjoy leverage
with which to encourage your compliance, even with no in-state mandate.
Meanwhile, I'm not aware of any "out-of-home" mandates...
Neither is Harris. Thanny should drop her an email, so she knows what
she's proposing.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
shawn
2020-10-14 19:48:09 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
That depends. Are there going to be California LEOs patrolling outside
your summer house?
BTR1701
2020-10-14 21:10:46 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
That depends. Are there going to be California LEOs patrolling outside
your summer house?
None of this would be enforceable by local or state police. It's a federal
mandate, so any enforcement would have to come from FBI, Secret Service,
DEA, US Marshals, etc, who would have to be retasked from their normal
duties to patrol America's highways and streets for bare-faced renegades.
FPP
2020-10-14 23:54:45 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a
state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from
state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
That depends. Are there going to be California LEOs patrolling outside
your summer house?
Silly... let's not be stupid.
It's black helicopters for Thanny, or it's nothing!
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-10-14 23:51:39 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their
national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
I'm not sure that "interstate travel" refers only to the moment you're
crossing a state line...
Well, when does the aura of having crossed a state line dissipate?
I don't know... When you change your home mailing-address?
So under a Harris regime, if I go live in my summer house in Montana for
six months, I'm still engaged in interstate travel in month five and can be
cited for being bare-faced outside my home even if the state itself has no
mask mandate?
Absolutely! Or it's jail.
It's all right there on Facebook. L'il Jimmy O'Keefe has published the
entire Harris manifesto.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-10-14 23:29:56 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
Which wasn't the point I was addressing. Cops 'monitor' for all kinds
of behavior, unlike you said.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-10-15 00:40:59 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
Which wasn't the point I was addressing.
Good thing my comment wasn't in response to you, then. It was to Pig.
FPP
2020-10-15 06:35:58 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
Which wasn't the point I was addressing.
Good thing my comment wasn't in response to you, then. It was to Pig.
Was it to pig, or not to pig, that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous bullshit,
Or to take arms against a sea of hypocrisy.

Aye, there's the rub...
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-15 13:49:24 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that'd be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators.  And cell phone diddlers.
Cell-phones is a good parallel, because it's not just you who's at risk.
Literally *no one* is at risk when you drive bare-faced in your own car.
Which wasn't the point I was addressing.
Good thing my comment wasn't in response to you, then. It was to Pig.
Was it to pig, or not to pig, that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous bullshit,
Or to take arms against a sea of hypocrisy.
Aye, there's the rub...
Too many learn the truth at last
'Tis far, far worse to pig than fast.
BTR1701
2020-10-14 16:38:44 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
Yeah, that's be nuts... said the cops who sit by the side of the road
watching for seal belt violators. And cell phone diddlers.
This would be a federal mandate. Local police won't be the ones enforcing
it and there's nowhere near enough federal agents to do it, all to stop
people from driving maskless INSIDE SEALED CARS.
moviePig
2020-10-14 15:42:31 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
I think the realistic objective wouldn't be to fill the courts with
miscreants, but rather to reinforce the perceived utility of masks.
BTR1701
2020-10-14 16:38:45 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
I think the realistic objective wouldn't be to fill the courts with
miscreants, but rather to reinforce the perceived utility of masks.
So more unenforceable virtue-signaling, then.
moviePig
2020-10-14 18:36:37 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
I think the realistic objective wouldn't be to fill the courts with
miscreants, but rather to reinforce the perceived utility of masks.
So more unenforceable virtue-signaling, then.
More about promoting health-awareness than signaling virtue, I'd guess.
(E.g., it's not literally true that only YOU can prevent forest fires.)
NoBody
2020-10-15 10:50:47 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
This is probably the dumbest idea yet. Are people afraid they will
get Corona from their Corolla?
BTR1701
2020-10-16 00:17:11 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.
Who's going to enforce it, though? Is he going to have FBI agents sitting
in cars on the side of the road, monitoring the highways and pulling over
people who are driving bare-faced inside their own cars?
This is probably the dumbest idea yet.
Yep. It's absurd that Harris wants to mandate masks for those traveling
interstate.
FPP
2020-10-14 15:07:33 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
So, instead of co-opting powers he wouldn't have, he'd be using those he
would.  Has Trump-autocracy already become the norm?
Maybe Thanny should try a plastic bag, just to be on the safe side.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-14 16:58:23 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
What are you blathering about now?
He thinks superspreader states are cool. Yes, he's that much of a
fucking asshole. "The free states" in his filbert sized brain are
actually the new Confederacy. Let's see Thanny the dickless wonder lead
the charge.
FPP
2020-10-14 23:28:12 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
What are you blathering about now?
He thinks superspreader states are cool.  Yes, he's that much of a
fucking asshole.  "The free states" in his filbert sized brain are
actually the new Confederacy.  Let's see Thanny the dickless wonder lead
the charge.
Oh... the 'Free States' - the ones where they're free to ignore facts
and the virus.
How's that working out?

https://www.google.com/search?q=highest+covid+totals&newwindow=1&client=safari&rls=en&sxsrf=ALeKk03Vh8y_JzrpXhrFAO0Lksjtg0ZnQA:1602718054341&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO-baCnrXsAhW7lnIEHTRMDz8Q_AUoAXoECGYQAw&biw=1135&bih=692
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-15 16:52:49 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he
suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
What are you blathering about now?
He thinks superspreader states are cool.  Yes, he's that much of a
fucking asshole.  "The free states" in his filbert sized brain are
actually the new Confederacy.  Let's see Thanny the dickless wonder
lead the charge.
Oh... the 'Free States' - the ones where they're free to ignore facts
and the virus.
How's that working out?
https://www.google.com/search?q=highest+covid+totals&newwindow=1&client=safari&rls=en&sxsrf=ALeKk03Vh8y_JzrpXhrFAO0Lksjtg0ZnQA:1602718054341&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO-baCnrXsAhW7lnIEHTRMDz8Q_AUoAXoECGYQAw&biw=1135&bih=692
Maybe he's so stupid he thinks this will give him a chance to fuck
Kristi Noem.
RichA
2020-10-15 07:03:15 UTC
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Since Biden can't mandate masks nationwide as president-- that's a state
power-- he now says he wants to mandate masks to engage in interstate
travel.
Huh?
So I'm currently on a month-long tour of the free states and their national
parks. If I took this trip under a Biden presidency, is he suggesting I'd
have to wear a mask inside my own car by myself as I drive from state to
state?
Meanwhile, traveling in a car is about as secure as you can get, provided it isn't filled with other people you don't know. But, they are curiously quiet about public transit, people packed in like sardines to the point where the F------ liberals, not want to "burden the disenfranchised" with requiring masks on public transit avoid a CLEARLY dangerous situation.
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