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BBC: This is what letting in hordes of refugees has brought Sweden
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RichA
2020-08-04 03:38:05 UTC
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Oh, and strict gun laws have ZERO effect but to disarm law-abiding people.


The death of a 12-year-old girl by a stray bullet in Sweden has sparked outrage and reignited debates over its handling of gang-related violence.

The unnamed girl was killed in a drive-by shooting next to a petrol station on Sunday, according to local media.

Police have launched an investigation but are yet to make any arrests.

Officials have vowed to further crack down on violent crime. Incidents involving gangs have risen in recent years.

Police were called to the scene of the shooting, south of Stockholm, in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Details of what happened have not been officially confirmed, but local media outlets reported that the gunmen had been aiming at two members of a criminal gang, and had not intended to shoot the child.

People placed flowers and candles at the scene on Monday, with some calling for tougher action on gang violence in the country.

"This can't happen again. It's a 12-year-old girl," one woman told AFP news
Justice Minister Morgan Johansson told local news agency TT he was dismayed and disgusted by the girl's death, as he pledged "more police and harsher sentences".

National police chief Anders Thornberg said authorities would "set things right when it comes to increasingly serious violence in society", while opposition MP Johan Forssell said there needed to be a re-think "to make Sweden safer."

Sweden announced last year that it had set up a special task force to combat gang violence in the country amid a rise in incidents.

Police have been given additional surveillance powers and sentences for drugs and weapons-related crimes have been increased in recent years.

Twenty people have been killed in 163 shootings in the first six months of 2020, according to police data. In 2019, 42 people were killed in 334 reported shootings.

Police say criminals involved in gun crime are often connected to the drugs trade.
Your Name
2020-08-04 03:49:51 UTC
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Oh, and strict gun laws have ZERO effect but to disarm law-abiding people.
Completely wrong since ...
Post by RichA
Twenty people have been killed in 163 shootings in the first six months
of 2020, according to police data. In 2019, 42 people were killed in
334 reported shootings.
if it was like America with their idioticaly useless so-called "gun
laws", then those figures would be *MUCH* *MUCH* higher thanks to
loonies being allowed to have semi-automatics and simply spray bullets
everywhere.

Gun laws will never stop every idiot, but it does reduce the risk *and*
the number of fatalities, as proven by every country that has more
sensible gun laws having much lower figures per capita than America.
RichA
2020-08-04 05:16:46 UTC
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Post by RichA
Oh, and strict gun laws have ZERO effect but to disarm law-abiding people.
Completely wrong since ...
Post by RichA
Twenty people have been killed in 163 shootings in the first six months
of 2020, according to police data. In 2019, 42 people were killed in
334 reported shootings.
if it was like America with their idioticaly useless so-called "gun
laws", then those figures would be *MUCH* *MUCH* higher
Not the same thing at all. Sweden went from a civilized population uncontaminated by feral 3rd world immigrants to a country infested with them. Guns aren't the issue, as in the U.S., population composition is the problem. You eliminate certain groups, everyone and their brother could have a gun and your gun problems would be FAR lower.
kensi
2020-08-04 06:04:30 UTC
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Sweden went from a civilized population uncontaminated by feral 3rd
world immigrants to a country infested with them. Guns aren't the
issue, as in the U.S., population composition is the problem. You
eliminate certain groups, everyone and their brother could have a gun
and your gun problems would be FAR lower.
You forgot to end that with a "Heil Hitler" there, goosestepper. Your
Führer doesn't like it when you forget to honor him when suggesting that
people "eliminate certain groups". He considers it to be a sort of
plagiarism, stealing his idea and all of that instead of giving credit
where it is due. I expect by now you owe the Hitler estate oodles and
oodles of money in back royalties, you thief!
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FPP
2020-08-04 07:03:09 UTC
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Post by RichA
Oh, and strict gun laws have ZERO effect but to disarm law-abiding people.
Completely wrong since ...
Post by RichA
Twenty people have been killed in 163 shootings in the first six
months of 2020, according to police data. In 2019, 42 people were
killed in 334 reported shootings.
if it was like America with their idioticaly useless so-called "gun
laws", then those figures would be *MUCH* *MUCH* higher thanks to
loonies being allowed to have semi-automatics and simply spray bullets
everywhere.
Gun laws will never stop every idiot, but it does reduce the risk *and*
the number of fatalities, as proven by every country that has more
sensible gun laws having much lower figures per capita than America.
Jesus, Trump is killing a thousand Americans a day now! He's still No. 1!
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trotsky
2020-08-04 13:14:30 UTC
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Post by RichA
Oh, and strict gun laws have ZERO effect but to disarm law-abiding people.
Completely wrong since ...
Post by RichA
Twenty people have been killed in 163 shootings in the first six
months of 2020, according to police data. In 2019, 42 people were
killed in 334 reported shootings.
if it was like America with their idioticaly useless so-called "gun
laws", then those figures would be *MUCH* *MUCH* higher thanks to
loonies being allowed to have semi-automatics and simply spray bullets
everywhere.
Gun laws will never stop every idiot, but it does reduce the risk
*and* the number of fatalities, as proven by every country that has
more sensible gun laws having much lower figures per capita than America.
Jesus, Trump is killing a thousand Americans a day now!  He's still No. 1!
Did Hitler manage this rate with his concentration camps?
kensi
2020-08-04 06:01:09 UTC
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Oh, and strict gun laws have ZERO effect but to disarm law-abiding people.
The death of a 12-year-old girl by a stray bullet in Sweden [snip rest]
I don't see any mention of refugees in that article at all, k0Oky. Seems
you're just leaping to racist conclusions in the absence of any
evidence. Par for the course for a kOOk, of course.
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"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
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in here." ~Checkmate
Ed Stasiak
2020-08-04 21:03:01 UTC
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RichA
Sweden announced last year that it had set up a special task force to combat gang violence
in the country amid a rise in incidents.
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