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Only reason Biden won is that the U.S. has turned into a society of welfare bums
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RichA
2020-11-23 23:09:46 UTC
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By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
moviePig
2020-11-24 00:12:42 UTC
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Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
RichA
2020-11-24 00:48:15 UTC
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By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the box. Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
suzeeq
2020-11-24 01:53:19 UTC
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Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the box. Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
FPP
2020-11-24 07:07:42 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because
they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've
created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free
medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to
PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you
will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same
in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a
congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax
you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare
and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the
box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump,
but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting Republicans and
Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)

Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?

No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
--
"Good night wall, good night cages, good night endless Midnight rages."
"Good night thief, good night grief, good night cruel and callous Chief."
"Good night 'Fake News', and Fox and Friends. - this is how the
nightmare ends."
"Good night at last, it’s time to go... the American people have told
you so."

The Million MAGA March is mostly men... probably because the men aren't
very good at getting their women to come. Or so I've heard...

November 7, 2020 - Happy V-T Day!
trotsky
2020-11-24 14:53:43 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT
because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to
Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are
they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they
believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless
you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you
will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death,
so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a
good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in
combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the
box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump,
but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting Republicans and
Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)
Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?
No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
Most electable doesn't necessarily mean "best".
FPP
2020-11-24 22:26:06 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT
because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to
Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are
they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they
believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless
you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you
will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death,
so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a
good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in
combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in
the box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like
Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting Republicans
and Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)
Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?
No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
Most electable doesn't necessarily mean "best".
Well, when it's someone, or Trump - someone is always going to be the
best choice.
--
"Good night wall, good night cages, good night endless Midnight rages."
"Good night thief, good night grief, good night cruel and callous Chief."
"Good night 'Fake News', and Fox and Friends. - this is how the
nightmare ends."
"Good night at last, it’s time to go... the American people have told
you so."

The Million MAGA March is mostly men... probably because the men aren't
very good at getting their women to come. Or so I've heard...

November 7, 2020 - Happy V-T Day!
FPP
2020-11-24 22:27:32 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT
because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to
Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are
they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they
believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless
you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you
will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death,
so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a
good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in
combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in
the box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like
Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting Republicans
and Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)
Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?
No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
Most electable doesn't necessarily mean "best".
But when there's a binary choice, there is no 'better' - only best.
--
"Good night wall, good night cages, good night endless Midnight rages."
"Good night thief, good night grief, good night cruel and callous Chief."
"Good night 'Fake News', and Fox and Friends. - this is how the
nightmare ends."
"Good night at last, it’s time to go... the American people have told
you so."

The Million MAGA March is mostly men... probably because the men aren't
very good at getting their women to come. Or so I've heard...

November 7, 2020 - Happy V-T Day!
trotsky
2020-11-25 14:40:32 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT
because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to
Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are
they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they
believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless
you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you
will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death,
so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a
good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in
combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in
the box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like
Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting Republicans
and Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)
Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?
No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
Most electable doesn't necessarily mean "best".
But when there's a binary choice, there is no 'better' -  only best.
It depends how you define your terms--I meant most qualified.
FPP
2020-11-25 21:45:09 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT
because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to
Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only
are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits,
they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay,
unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes
than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed
to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will
never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't
raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans
think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in
the box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like
Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting Republicans
and Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)
Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?
No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
Most electable doesn't necessarily mean "best".
But when there's a binary choice, there is no 'better' -  only best.
It depends how you define your terms--I meant most qualified.
Gotta win first... (Who doubts Hillary was the most qualified?)
--
"Good night wall, good night cages, good night endless Midnight rages."
"Good night thief, good night grief, good night cruel and callous Chief."
"Good night 'Fake News', and Fox and Friends. - this is how the
nightmare ends."
"Good night at last, it’s time to go... the American people have told
you so."

The Million MAGA March is mostly men... probably because the men aren't
very good at getting their women to come. Or so I've heard...

November 7, 2020 - Happy V-T Day!
trotsky
2020-11-26 16:59:21 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by suzeeq
Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT
because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to
Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only
are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits,
they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay,
unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes
than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are
taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person,
you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S.
didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such,
Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were  having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in
the box.  Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't
like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
But they still voted for Biden. Or rather, against Trump.
Name another Dem that could have beaten Trump by getting
Republicans and Democrats? (which means the black vote in DROVES!)
Sanders?
Warren?
Buttigieg?
Bloomberg?
Steyer?
Gabbard?
Yang?
Booker?
Delaney?
Castro?
Bullock?
O'Rourke?
No... in retrospect, Biden was probably the best choice.
Most electable doesn't necessarily mean "best".
But when there's a binary choice, there is no 'better' -  only best.
It depends how you define your terms--I meant most qualified.
Gotta win first...  (Who doubts Hillary was the most qualified?)
Progressive assholes. (Redundant, I know.)
moviePig
2020-11-24 03:17:16 UTC
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Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the box. Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
Welcome to electorate psychology ...where it'll always be far easier to
sell 'dislike' than 'like'. The priority was removing Trump, and it's a
highly debatable that anyone in sight but Biden could've managed it.
RichA
2020-11-24 15:58:49 UTC
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Post by moviePig
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the box. Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
Welcome to electorate psychology ...where it'll always be far easier to
sell 'dislike' than 'like'. The priority was removing Trump, and it's a
highly debatable that anyone in sight but Biden could've managed it.
Considering all the "outrage" over Trump, how the Left said he was wholly unfit, that says A LOT about the lack of quality people in the Democratic Party, at least according to them.
Shadow
2020-11-24 16:10:00 UTC
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Post by RichA
Considering all the "outrage" over Trump, how the Left said he was wholly unfit, that says A LOT about the lack of quality people
... who supported him.
IAWTP. The States with the most "welfare bums" are RED. But
you knew that. Sht, you're a Canadian version of them.

Now let's get to know the REAL trump. He's lost his immunity.
And he can't hide the crimes he committed forever....
He'll *LIE* and call it "revenge". Law abiding citizens will
call it "justice".
[]'s
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Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Shadow
2020-11-24 20:01:42 UTC
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Post by Shadow
Post by RichA
Considering all the "outrage" over Trump, how the Left said he was wholly unfit, that says A LOT about the lack of quality people
... who supported him.
IAWTP. The States with the most "welfare bums" are RED. But
you knew that. Sht, you're a Canadian version of them.
Now let's get to know the REAL trump. He's lost his immunity.
And he can't hide the crimes he committed forever....
He'll *LIE* and call it "revenge". Law abiding citizens will
call it "justice".
RichA, this isn't for you. It's for people capable of
thinking:



It's about a typical "welfare bum".
Post by Shadow
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
RichA
2020-11-24 22:23:59 UTC
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Anon-dimwit; if the U.S. keeps going as they are, in 20 years, nearly 50% of your GDP will be paid to large banks as interest on debt.
The Horny Goat
2020-11-28 19:04:14 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by RichA
They were having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the box. Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
Welcome to electorate psychology ...where it'll always be far easier to
sell 'dislike' than 'like'. The priority was removing Trump, and it's a
highly debatable that anyone in sight but Biden could've managed it.
Of course - nobody's suggesting the majority of those of voted for him
loved Biden the way Americans loved Truman, Ike or JFK (who only won
49.7-49.5 though you'd never know it based on how he was granted
sainthood after Dallas)

ZZyXX
2020-11-24 22:20:10 UTC
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Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
Pssst, the "reason Biden won* is Trump. Moreover, right about now, none
of Biden's voters is having second thoughts about it...
They were having second-thoughts when they dropped the ballot in the box. Most people who are democrats I've spoken to didn't like Trump, but they also said they were sorry Biden was the
best the Dems could come up with.
"I've spoken to" "I've heard"

what perfect trumpisms to admit no such thing happened
The Horny Goat
2020-11-28 19:01:27 UTC
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Post by RichA
By not embracing a Canadian or European socialist model, BUT because they've extended socialist medical care, etc., to Americans, they've created a nation that thinks that not only are they entitled to free medicine and other welfare benefits, they believe they don't have to PAY for it. In Canada, you pay, unless you are a sickly person, you will pay-out more in taxes than you will ever used medically. Same in Europe, you are taxed to death, so unless you are a congenitally-ill person, you will never see a good return on the tax you pay. The U.S. didn't raise taxes in combination with Obamacare and as such, Americans think it's "free."
True but any Canadian who thinks 100% of the taxes go to health care
shouldn't be allowed with scissors or matches.
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