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Biden's ABC town hall "voters" include former Obama speechwriter, wife of former high profile Dem candidate
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Ubiquitous
2020-10-17 00:08:37 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
former high profile Pennsylvania Democrat:

johnny dollar

Rigged!
Biden's ABC town hall questioners include former Obama
speechwriter, and the wife of a former Pennsylvania Dem
candidate Fox News reached out to ABC, the Biden campaign,
Osburn and Haeck for comment and did not immediately receive
a response.
https://foxnews.com/politics/biden-town-hall-questioners-former-obama-
speechwriter-wife-pennsylvania-democrat?dg

Here’s more:

Two of the questioners at the ABC town hall featuring
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Thursday had
ties to high-profile Democrats, including one questioner who
previously worked as a speechwriter in the Obama
administration.

The queries came as President Trump, hundreds of miles away,
was engaging in his own parallel town hall being aired on NBC.
The ABC town hall was hosted by George Stephanopoulos, who was
a communications director for the Bill Clinton White House and
who has been a political journalist since 2002.

Nathan Osburn whose job was listed as ‘communications’:

One of the questioners at the ABC-hosted event was Nathan
Osburn, a former speechwriter for the Obama White House.
Osburn specifically worked for the Office of Public Affairs
at the Commerce Department under the Obama-Biden administration
and at the Small Business Administration.

Osburn’s profession was listed as “communications” on the ABC
town hall graphic and his city was listed as Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania.

Osburn was quoted in the Philadelphia Inquirer earlier this
year as “a former Obama administration speechwriter” who had
created a “Philly for Pete group” aimed at boosting former
Democratic presidential primary candidate Pete Buttigieg. And
the LGBTQ Victory Institute listed Osburn as a senior
speechwriter for the Small Business Administration in an
article praising the Obama-Biden administration for its LGBTQ
hiring practices.

“Amy Coney Barrett’s being pushed through at the last minute,
even though millions have already voted. So what do you think
about ideas from people like Pete Buttigieg and others to put
in place safeguards that will help ensure more long-term
balance and stability?” Osburn asked Biden. “And what do you
say to LGBTQ Americans and others who are very worried right
now about erosions of their rights and our democracy as a
whole?”

Biden, during the exchange that followed that question, was
asked point-blank by Stephanopoulos whether voters deserve to
know his stance on court-packing, and Biden reversed his
previous stance of refusing to say what that position is
before Election Day. He told the moderator that he would take
a specific stand on that issue depending on how Republicans
handle the ongoing confirmation effort of Supreme Court
nominee Amy Coney Barrett.

Mieke Haeck’s job was just listed as ‘physical therapist’:

Another questioner at the town hall was Mieke Haeck, who ABC
presented as a physical therapist from State College, Pa.

Haeck is also the wife of Ezra Nanes, a high-profile Democrat
in Pennsylvania who in 2018 ran a campaign challenging
Republican state Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman. Nanes is
currently an at-large member of the Centre County Democratic
Committee. Centre County is the county in which State College
resides.

“My youngest daughter is transgender. The Trump administration
has attacked the rights of transgender people, banning them
from military service, weakening nondiscrimination protections
and even removing the word ‘transgender’ from some government
websites,” Haeck said. “How will you as president reverse this
dangerous and discriminatory agenda and ensure that the lives
and rights of LGBTQ people are protected under U.S. law?”

“I will flat out just change the law,” Biden responded.

So there you go. These are the voters ABC picked to ask corrupt Joe
Biden softball questions.

By the way, this was Joe Biden’s ridiculous answer to the transgender
question:

David Reaboi

Joe Biden—who people tell us is not a radical—thinks 8 year
olds should be able to be trans. This is complete far-left
ideological insanity.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1316931434507063302

We often tell children who are young to wait until they get older to
decide their profession because they need to learn more in order to
decide what they like and don’t like. Yet when it comes to
transgenderism, Joe Biden would apparently totally trust an 8-year-old
child to make the decision to change genders, which will forever change
their life. What a horrible answer from a pandering old corrupt
politician.

--
Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
love this country.
thinbluemime2
2020-10-17 00:29:26 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included
Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden championed the Iraq war.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/17/joe-biden-role-iraq-war

"Biden did vastly more than just vote for the war. When the war was
debated and then authorized by the US Congress in 2002, Democrats
controlled the Senate and Biden was chair of the Senate committee on
foreign relations. Biden himself had enormous influence as chair and
argued strongly in favor of the 2002 resolution granting President Bush
the authority to invade Iraq."


















"According to Philip Zelikow, a former member of the president’s Foreign
Intelligence Advisory Board, the executive director of the 9/11
Commission, and now a counsellor to Condoleezza Rice, the ‘real threat’
from Iraq was not a threat to the United States. The ‘unstated threat’
was the ‘threat against Israel’, Zelikow told an audience at the
University of Virginia in September 2002. ‘The American government,’ he
added, ‘doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is
not a popular sell.’" - "The Israel Lobby"
thinbluemime2
2020-10-17 00:43:23 UTC
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At least the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall
Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden championed the Iraq war.
"According to Philip Zelikow, a former member of the president’s Foreign
Intelligence Advisory Board, the executive director of the 9/11
Commission, and now a counsellor to Condoleezza Rice, the ‘real threat’
from Iraq was not a threat to the United States. The ‘unstated threat’
was the ‘threat against Israel’, Zelikow told an audience at the
University of Virginia in September 2002. ‘The American government,’ he
added, ‘doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is
not a popular sell.’" - "The Israel Lobby"
But Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden had a power much greater than his own
words. He was able to choose all 18 witnesses in the main Senate
hearings on Iraq. And he mainly chose people who supported a pro-war
position. They argued in favor of “regime change as the stated US
policy” and warned of “a nuclear-armed Saddam sometime in this decade”.
That Iraqis would “welcome the United States as liberators” And that
Iraq “permits known al-Qaida members to live and move freely about in
Iraq” and that “they are being supported”.
thinbluemime2
2020-10-17 00:59:00 UTC
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At least the ‘big money donators’ in Biden’s town hall
Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden's son Hunter, anticipating Joe "I Am A
Zionist" Biden's run for the US Presidency, and after years of taking
hard drugs and huge bribes, rehabilitates his image by finding the only
white-skinned good-looking Jewish woman in South Africa, and marries
her. Then Hunter gets a "star of David" tattoo and has a Jewish grand
child for Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden, before Joe "I Am A Zionist"
Biden's presidential run.
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Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden championed the Iraq war.
"According to Philip Zelikow, a former member of the president’s
Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, the executive director of the
9/11 Commission, and now a counsellor to Condoleezza Rice, the ‘real
threat’ from Iraq was not a threat to the United States. The ‘unstated
threat’ was the ‘threat against Israel’, Zelikow told an audience at
the University of Virginia in September 2002. ‘The American
government,’ he added, ‘doesn’t want to lean too hard on it
rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell.’" - "The Israel Lobby"
But Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden had a power much greater than his own
words. He was able to choose all 18 witnesses in the main Senate
hearings on Iraq. And he mainly chose people who supported a pro-war
position. They argued in favor of “regime change as the stated US
policy” and warned of “a nuclear-armed Saddam sometime in this decade”.
That Iraqis would “welcome the United States as liberators” And that
Iraq “permits known al-Qaida members to live and move freely about in
Iraq” and that “they are being supported”.
None of this shit is made up by me, do a google search to verify what I
have said is true.



"Gawd Blesh Uh-mer-ka!" - Joe "I Am A Zionist" Biden
thinbluemime2
2020-10-17 01:12:10 UTC
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At least two of the ‘mega-donors’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News
Hunter Biden sings to ABC News

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hunter-biden-and-jewish-wife-have-matching-hebrew-tattoos/



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thinbluemime2
2020-10-17 01:15:17 UTC
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At least two of the ‘mega-donors’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News
Hunter Biden sings to ABC News
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hunter-biden-and-jewish-wife-have-matching-hebrew-tattoos/
Hunter Biden talks getting married after 6 days
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-hunter-biden-talks-married-days-life-best/story?id=66333924
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http://youtu.be/8FRtaY7Qu2w
thinbluemime2
2020-10-17 01:21:15 UTC
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At least two of the ‘mega-donors’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News
Hunter Biden sings to ABC News
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hunter-biden-and-jewish-wife-have-matching-hebrew-tattoos/
Hunter Biden talks getting married after 6 days
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-hunter-biden-talks-married-days-life-best/story?id=66333924
Post by thinbluemime2
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http://youtu.be/8FRtaY7Qu2w
Hear that sound?


That sound of crickets?


That sound of silence?


That sound made by American Pussies?


Yeah, that sound, from the law abiding conservatives to the social
justice warriors on the left, the sound of silent American Pussies.





TAGS: AMERICAN, PUSSIES!
BTR1701
2020-10-17 01:17:47 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
Post by Ubiquitous
Biden, during the exchange that followed that question, was
asked point-blank by Stephanopoulos whether voters deserve to
know his stance on court-packing, and Biden reversed his
previous stance of refusing to say what that position is
before Election Day. He told the moderator that he would take
a specific stand on that issue depending on how Republicans
handle the ongoing confirmation effort of Supreme Court
nominee Amy Coney Barrett.
Isn't it ironic that Dems are demanding Barrett tell them how she'll rule
on various issues before she has the job, but Biden says voters don't
deserve to know his position on destroying our third branch of government
until he already has the job?
FPP
2020-10-17 02:23:21 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?

"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday evening
and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head and giving a
thumbs up behind the president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as
an independent, pro-Trump candidate.

According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and Trump
supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during the town hall."

Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-17 14:23:00 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday evening
and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head and giving a
thumbs up behind the president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as
an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and Trump
supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this. Since audible audience
reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of viewer-manipulation to
place her directly behind Trump's closeup, emotionally underscoring with
"spontaneous" communal approval his plain-for-all-to-see sagacity.
trotsky
2020-10-17 15:20:56 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday evening
and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head and giving a
thumbs up behind the president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018
as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and Trump
supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible audience
reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of viewer-manipulation to
place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
moviePig
2020-10-17 15:53:12 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head and
giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a Congressional seat
in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and Trump
supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
trotsky
2020-10-18 12:23:19 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head
and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a Congressional
seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during
the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
moviePig
2020-10-18 14:24:35 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head
and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during
the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.

Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
FPP
2020-10-18 14:28:36 UTC
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Post by trotsky
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head
and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during
the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-18 15:04:07 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head
and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during
the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
FPP
2020-10-18 15:15:17 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
Both of them?
How many hundreds of thousand have to die before they make up their
damned minds?

My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just too
ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-18 15:26:40 UTC
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Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some
astonishing improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be
undecided?
Both of them?
How many hundreds of thousand have to die before they make up their
damned minds?
My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just too
ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
You think the campaigns' efforts are a waste, and could be safely ended?
FPP
2020-10-18 22:55:19 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some
astonishing improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be
undecided?
Both of them?
How many hundreds of thousand have to die before they make up their
damned minds?
My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just
too ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
You think the campaigns' efforts are a waste, and could be safely ended?
Pretty much. Now it's all about Get Out The Vote.

Whoever turns out more of their people will win. Almost no one is going
to change their mind, and almost no one doesn't have an opinion of the
last 4 years. I mean, look around. Are you better off than you were in
2016?

If you're name is Trump, probably. If you own a business, restaurant,
movie theater, sports stadium, or almost any brick and mortar store -
that's doubtful.

Who's happy about our situation? One where you're constantly wondering
if you're going to contract a deadly disease almost daily... Did you
think of that ONCE in 2008 - 2016?
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-19 13:56:48 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the president,
ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent,
pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit
of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's
closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two
hands, a map and a flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some
astonishing improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to
be undecided?
Both of them?
How many hundreds of thousand have to die before they make up their
damned minds?
My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just
too ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
You think the campaigns' efforts are a waste, and could be safely ended?
Pretty much.  Now it's all about Get Out The Vote.
Whoever turns out more of their people will win.  Almost no one is going
to change their mind, and almost no one doesn't have an opinion of the
last 4 years.  I mean, look around.  Are you better off than you were in
2016?
I would 10% or more of the people that voted for Trump in 2016 will vote
for Biden.
If you're name is Trump, probably.  If you own a business, restaurant,
movie theater, sports stadium, or almost any brick and mortar store -
that's doubtful.
Hopefully Trump is inching closer to being indicted and won't be so well
off.
Who's happy about our situation?  One where you're constantly wondering
if you're going to contract a deadly disease almost daily...  Did you
think of that ONCE in 2008 - 2016?
Obama got the job done in spades, if you'll pardon the expression.
A Friend
2020-10-19 15:18:38 UTC
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I would 10% or more of the people that voted for Trump in 2016 will vote
for Biden.
12% of Reagan's 1980 voters voted for Mondale in 1984, so your estimate
is well within the ballpark.
trotsky
2020-10-19 19:52:45 UTC
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Post by trotsky
I would 10% or more of the people that voted for Trump in 2016 will vote
for Biden.
12% of Reagan's 1980 voters voted for Mondale in 1984, so your estimate
is well within the ballpark.
That's the opposite scenario party wise, and victor wise, but still
shows a nice historical perspective.
trotsky
2020-10-18 16:01:44 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some
astonishing improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be
undecided?
Both of them?
How many hundreds of thousand have to die before they make up their
damned minds?
My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just too
ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
There might some "undecideds" none of whom will give a shit about voting.
The Horny Goat
2020-10-18 19:24:36 UTC
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Post by FPP
My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just too
ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
There might some "undecideds" none of whom will give a shit about voting.
It will indeed be interesting to see what the voter turnout is on
November 3rd - specifically whether higher or lower than 2016.
FPP
2020-10-18 23:01:01 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
My guess is that MOST of those who says they're 'undecided' are just too
ashamed of who they're voting for to tell you.
There might some "undecideds" none of whom will give a shit about voting.
It will indeed be interesting to see what the voter turnout is on
November 3rd - specifically whether higher or lower than 2016.
Ummm... early voting has been going on for weeks. They started lining
up to vote (some waiting up to ELEVEN HOURS) to vote.

That's kind of a giveaway, isn't it? I know, I know... you don't
believe me, unless I find it engraved on stone tablets, from Mount
Sinai. So I'll (again) cite sources.

"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.

This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the same
time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the majority of
voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.

“There’s no analog in American history to compare this to,” Becker said.
“This is history.”
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election Project
found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be cast by
Democrats than Republicans."

https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020

You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout - by
orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
The Horny Goat
2020-10-19 01:43:35 UTC
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Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 + years
of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our country are
done separately at separate times - we go to the provincial polls next
Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40 minutes to vote and usually
less than 10 while you folks seem to find 4+ hours commonplace.

What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the same
time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the majority of
voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
“There’s no analog in American history to compare this to,” Becker said.
“This is history.”
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election Project
found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be cast by
Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
Post by FPP
You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout - by
orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
Well that's pure crap as mathematically "by an order of magnitude"
means 10-fold and '2 orders of magnitude' means 100 fold - and could
ONLY be mathematically possible if 10% or less of registered American
voters had voted in 2016 which I know is not so.

Typing 'what was the US voter turnout in 2016?" into Google gives
percentages between 55-60% over the last 5 elections and an 'order of
magnitude higher" would mean a voter turnout of 550-600% which would
mean the AVERAGE American voter had voted 5.5 - 6 times per election
over the last 20 years.

Is THAT what you're saying? Because that's the meaning of what you
clearly said.

A more likely explanation is mathematical illiteracy which can be
corrected by a trained teacher of grade school mathematics.
suzeeq
2020-10-19 03:54:04 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 + years
of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our country are
done separately at separate times - we go to the provincial polls next
Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40 minutes to vote and usually
less than 10 while you folks seem to find 4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
They've tended to consolidate voting venues all over the country, not
just where the Democrats in charge some would have you believe, but in
Republican states and counties as well. It may be because there's a
shortage of poll workers, rather than politics.
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the same
time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the majority of
voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
“There’s no analog in American history to compare this to,” Becker said.
“This is history.”
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election Project
found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be cast by
Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
Post by FPP
You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout - by
orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
Well that's pure crap as mathematically "by an order of magnitude"
means 10-fold and '2 orders of magnitude' means 100 fold - and could
ONLY be mathematically possible if 10% or less of registered American
voters had voted in 2016 which I know is not so.
Typing 'what was the US voter turnout in 2016?" into Google gives
percentages between 55-60% over the last 5 elections and an 'order of
magnitude higher" would mean a voter turnout of 550-600% which would
mean the AVERAGE American voter had voted 5.5 - 6 times per election
over the last 20 years.
Is THAT what you're saying? Because that's the meaning of what you
clearly said.
FPP is given to exaggeration.
Post by The Horny Goat
A more likely explanation is mathematical illiteracy which can be
corrected by a trained teacher of grade school mathematics.
FPP
2020-10-19 04:27:44 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas.  High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 + years
of federal, provincial and  municipal voting (which in our country are
done separately at separate times - we go to the provincial polls next
Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40 minutes to vote and usually
less than 10 while you folks seem to find 4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
They've tended to consolidate voting venues all over the country, not
just where the Democrats in charge some would have you believe, but in
Republican states and counties as well. It may be because there's a
shortage of poll workers, rather than politics.
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the same
time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the majority of
voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
“There’s no analog in American history to compare this to,” Becker said.
“This is history.”
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election Project
found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be cast by
Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
Post by FPP
You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout - by
orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
Well that's pure crap as mathematically "by an order of magnitude"
means 10-fold and '2 orders of magnitude' means 100 fold - and could
ONLY be mathematically possible if 10% or less of registered American
voters had voted in 2016 which I know is not so.
Typing 'what was the US voter turnout in 2016?" into Google gives
percentages between 55-60% over the last 5 elections and an 'order of
magnitude higher" would mean a voter turnout of 550-600% which would
mean the AVERAGE American voter had voted 5.5 - 6 times per election
over the last 20 years.
Is THAT what you're saying? Because that's the meaning of what you
clearly said.
FPP is given to exaggeration.
Post by The Horny Goat
A more likely explanation is mathematical illiteracy which can be
corrected by a trained teacher of grade school mathematics.
Nope. Early voting is already almost 3/4ths of the way there. 7 times
ain't far from 10 times.
But I am fond of hyperbole.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Micky DuPree
2020-10-30 06:37:54 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early
voting turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 +
years of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our
country are done separately at separate times - we go to the
provincial polls next Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40
minutes to vote and usually less than 10 while you folks seem to find
4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
They've tended to consolidate voting venues all over the country, not
just where the Democrats in charge some would have you believe, but in
Republican states and counties as well. It may be because there's a
shortage of poll workers, rather than politics.
This year is highly unusual because of the pandemic. Nevertheless,
before the pandemic, waiting in line for hours was much more common in
neighborhoods of color than it was in white neighborhoods. I've always
lived in neighborhoods that were between 52%-85% white, and only once
have I ever had to wait in line for more than about eight minutes. (I
think it was 45 minutes in 2008.)

The drive to vote early this year is real. I went to my county election
office to vote early in person on the seventh day -- not the first, but
the seventh -- that we were allowed to this year. The line was out the
door and around the building. Almost everyone was wearing masks, but
there was almost no physical distancing, so I kept on driving. I went
back about a week later, and this time they were doing a steady
business, but the line was very short and didn't go outside the
building. But records are definitely being set. For example, Texas
cast 8,969,226 *total* votes in the general election in 2016. Texas has
already cast 8,525,424 early votes in the general election so far in
2020.
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the
same time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the
majority of voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
"There’s no analog in American history to compare this to," Becker
said. "This is history."
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election
Project found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be
cast by Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
No, some states, though not all states, release the data on the party of
registration of those who have voted. This doesn't guarantee that these
people have voted in line with their party of registration, although
statistically that's likely. If some registered Democrats have voted
for Trump or some registered Republicans have voted for Biden (voters
are allowed to cross party lines in the general election), these numbers
aren't going to tell you that. And of course, the registered major
party stats aren't going to tell you about people who have registered as
third-party or independent at all.
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout -
by orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
Well that's pure crap as mathematically "by an order of magnitude"
means 10-fold and '2 orders of magnitude' means 100 fold - and could
ONLY be mathematically possible if 10% or less of registered American
voters had voted in 2016 which I know is not so.
Typing 'what was the US voter turnout in 2016?" into Google gives
percentages between 55-60% over the last 5 elections and an 'order of
magnitude higher" would mean a voter turnout of 550-600% which would
mean the AVERAGE American voter had voted 5.5 - 6 times per election
over the last 20 years.
Is THAT what you're saying? Because that's the meaning of what you
clearly said.
FPP is given to exaggeration.
Post by The Horny Goat
A more likely explanation is mathematical illiteracy which can be
corrected by a trained teacher of grade school mathematics.
My first guess, like suzeeq's, is hyperbole. But this is already a
record-breaking election in terms of early voting, and is strongly
hinting that it will continue to be record-breaking by the time the last
vote comes in.

-Micky
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-30 08:44:38 UTC
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Post by Micky DuPree
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early
voting turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 +
years of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our
country are done separately at separate times - we go to the
provincial polls next Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40
minutes to vote and usually less than 10 while you folks seem to find
4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
They've tended to consolidate voting venues all over the country, not
just where the Democrats in charge some would have you believe, but in
Republican states and counties as well. It may be because there's a
shortage of poll workers, rather than politics.
This year is highly unusual because of the pandemic. Nevertheless,
before the pandemic, waiting in line for hours was much more common in
neighborhoods of color than it was in white neighborhoods. I've always
lived in neighborhoods that were between 52%-85% white, and only once
have I ever had to wait in line for more than about eight minutes. (I
think it was 45 minutes in 2008.)
How odd. I lived in several neighborhoods that weren't majority white. I
never had unusual waits to vote at the polls.

Maybe our election administration is less incompetant than yours and
capable of hiring election judges?
Post by Micky DuPree
The drive to vote early this year is real. I went to my county election
office to vote early in person on the seventh day -- not the first, but
the seventh -- that we were allowed to this year. The line was out the
door and around the building. Almost everyone was wearing masks, but
there was almost no physical distancing, so I kept on driving. I went
back about a week later, and this time they were doing a steady
business, but the line was very short and didn't go outside the
building. But records are definitely being set. For example, Texas
cast 8,969,226 *total* votes in the general election in 2016. Texas has
already cast 8,525,424 early votes in the general election so far in
2020.
I voted by mail. It took an unacceptable amount of time to every,
several extra weeks, but no line to wait in to vote. As I'm an election
judge, I have to vote absentee anyway.
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the
same time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the
majority of voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
"There’s no analog in American history to compare this to," Becker
said. "This is history."
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election
Project found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be
cast by Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
No, some states, though not all states, release the data on the party of
registration of those who have voted.
H.G. is correct. They've been doing "exit polling" of early voters and
those who voted by mail. They're targetted telephone polls. That's how
they learn of party affiliation and voting choices.

My state doesn't have party registration. Not every state does.
Post by Micky DuPree
This doesn't guarantee that these
people have voted in line with their party of registration, although
statistically that's likely. If some registered Democrats have voted
for Trump or some registered Republicans have voted for Biden (voters
are allowed to cross party lines in the general election), these numbers
aren't going to tell you that. And of course, the registered major
party stats aren't going to tell you about people who have registered as
third-party or independent at all.
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
. . .
shawn
2020-10-30 09:10:34 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:44:38 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early
voting turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 +
years of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our
country are done separately at separate times - we go to the
provincial polls next Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40
minutes to vote and usually less than 10 while you folks seem to find
4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
They've tended to consolidate voting venues all over the country, not
just where the Democrats in charge some would have you believe, but in
Republican states and counties as well. It may be because there's a
shortage of poll workers, rather than politics.
This year is highly unusual because of the pandemic. Nevertheless,
before the pandemic, waiting in line for hours was much more common in
neighborhoods of color than it was in white neighborhoods. I've always
lived in neighborhoods that were between 52%-85% white, and only once
have I ever had to wait in line for more than about eight minutes. (I
think it was 45 minutes in 2008.)
How odd. I lived in several neighborhoods that weren't majority white. I
never had unusual waits to vote at the polls.
Maybe our election administration is less incompetant than yours and
capable of hiring election judges?
I wonder if it depends upon the state. For instance it seems like
Texas is making it hard to do early voting based on what is being
reported. Here in GA I know we have something like 8 places one can
vote just in my county (we have a lot of counties so none are really
that big compared to Texas counties.)

I did my voting through Absentee Ballot so I didn't experience any
lines but I did hear from Alton Brown (GOOD EATS) as he and his wife
voted on the first day of early voting. Apparently he went to a
regular polling place in Marietta and had to wait for a few hours
while his wife voted at Agnes Scott college and had no lines to wait
through. Both areas would be made up of mostly white voters but I
don't know if the line was long in Marietta a few days later or not.

I do know that there are reports of other areas still having long
lines and being made up of mostly black voters, but is that something
that all areas made up of mostly black voters is experiencing or just
a few? I haven't seen any reporting on that for Georgia.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
The drive to vote early this year is real. I went to my county election
office to vote early in person on the seventh day -- not the first, but
the seventh -- that we were allowed to this year. The line was out the
door and around the building. Almost everyone was wearing masks, but
there was almost no physical distancing, so I kept on driving. I went
back about a week later, and this time they were doing a steady
business, but the line was very short and didn't go outside the
building. But records are definitely being set. For example, Texas
cast 8,969,226 *total* votes in the general election in 2016. Texas has
already cast 8,525,424 early votes in the general election so far in
2020.
I voted by mail. It took an unacceptable amount of time to every,
several extra weeks, but no line to wait in to vote. As I'm an election
judge, I have to vote absentee anyway.
It took a few weeks for me to get my ballot for voting by mail from
when they said it had been mailed. Apparently there was a huge
increase in the number of ballots being requested (reportedly 100K in
the first round) so it took them some time to send out all the ballots
even though they reported them all as being sent out on Sept 25th.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the
same time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the
majority of voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
"There’s no analog in American history to compare this to," Becker
said. "This is history."
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election
Project found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be
cast by Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
No, some states, though not all states, release the data on the party of
registration of those who have voted.
H.G. is correct. They've been doing "exit polling" of early voters and
those who voted by mail. They're targetted telephone polls. That's how
they learn of party affiliation and voting choices.
My state doesn't have party registration. Not every state does.
Really? So no one has a listed party registration? In Georgia you
don't have to declare a party registration but the option is there.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
This doesn't guarantee that these
people have voted in line with their party of registration, although
statistically that's likely. If some registered Democrats have voted
for Trump or some registered Republicans have voted for Biden (voters
are allowed to cross party lines in the general election), these numbers
aren't going to tell you that. And of course, the registered major
party stats aren't going to tell you about people who have registered as
third-party or independent at all.
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
. . .
Going by the reports showing up it seems like there are more than a
few registered Republicans voting against Trump this year. It's
similar to Trump/Clinton when there were people who didn't like either
candidate but voted for their least hated candidate so we see people
that don't want to vote for a Democrat but really don't want Trump to
win again so they will be voting for Biden. I've seen quite a few
reports making a fuss over well known Republican leaders that say they
are voting for Biden so if it's happening at the top of the party
there must be more regular voters doing the same thing.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-30 09:46:37 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early
voting turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 +
years of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our
country are done separately at separate times - we go to the
provincial polls next Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40
minutes to vote and usually less than 10 while you folks seem to find
4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
They've tended to consolidate voting venues all over the country, not
just where the Democrats in charge some would have you believe, but in
Republican states and counties as well. It may be because there's a
shortage of poll workers, rather than politics.
This year is highly unusual because of the pandemic. Nevertheless,
before the pandemic, waiting in line for hours was much more common in
neighborhoods of color than it was in white neighborhoods. I've always
lived in neighborhoods that were between 52%-85% white, and only once
have I ever had to wait in line for more than about eight minutes. (I
think it was 45 minutes in 2008.)
How odd. I lived in several neighborhoods that weren't majority white. I
never had unusual waits to vote at the polls.
Maybe our election administration is less incompetant than yours and
capable of hiring election judges?
I wonder if it depends upon the state. For instance it seems like
Texas is making it hard to do early voting based on what is being
reported. Here in GA I know we have something like 8 places one can
vote just in my county (we have a lot of counties so none are really
that big compared to Texas counties.)
I did my voting through Absentee Ballot so I didn't experience any
lines but I did hear from Alton Brown (GOOD EATS) as he and his wife
voted on the first day of early voting. Apparently he went to a
regular polling place in Marietta and had to wait for a few hours
while his wife voted at Agnes Scott college and had no lines to wait
through. Both areas would be made up of mostly white voters but I
don't know if the line was long in Marietta a few days later or not.
I do know that there are reports of other areas still having long
lines and being made up of mostly black voters, but is that something
that all areas made up of mostly black voters is experiencing or just
a few? I haven't seen any reporting on that for Georgia.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
The drive to vote early this year is real. I went to my county election
office to vote early in person on the seventh day -- not the first, but
the seventh -- that we were allowed to this year. The line was out the
door and around the building. Almost everyone was wearing masks, but
there was almost no physical distancing, so I kept on driving. I went
back about a week later, and this time they were doing a steady
business, but the line was very short and didn't go outside the
building. But records are definitely being set. For example, Texas
cast 8,969,226 *total* votes in the general election in 2016. Texas has
already cast 8,525,424 early votes in the general election so far in
2020.
I voted by mail. It took an unacceptable amount of time to every,
several extra weeks, but no line to wait in to vote. As I'm an election
judge, I have to vote absentee anyway.
It took a few weeks for me to get my ballot for voting by mail from
when they said it had been mailed. Apparently there was a huge
increase in the number of ballots being requested (reportedly 100K in
the first round) so it took them some time to send out all the ballots
even though they reported them all as being sent out on Sept 25th.
They had my application a full month before the earliest date by law
they could mail out ballots. It took them three weeks beyond that.
Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the
same time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the
majority of voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
"There’s no analog in American history to compare this to," Becker
said. "This is history."
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election
Project found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be
cast by Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
No, some states, though not all states, release the data on the party of
registration of those who have voted.
H.G. is correct. They've been doing "exit polling" of early voters and
those who voted by mail. They're targetted telephone polls. That's how
they learn of party affiliation and voting choices.
My state doesn't have party registration. Not every state does.
Really? So no one has a listed party registration? In Georgia you
don't have to declare a party registration but the option is there.
We've never had party registration.
Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
This doesn't guarantee that these
people have voted in line with their party of registration, although
statistically that's likely. If some registered Democrats have voted
for Trump or some registered Republicans have voted for Biden (voters
are allowed to cross party lines in the general election), these numbers
aren't going to tell you that. And of course, the registered major
party stats aren't going to tell you about people who have registered as
third-party or independent at all.
Post by suzeeq
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
. . .
Going by the reports showing up it seems like there are more than a
few registered Republicans voting against Trump this year. It's
similar to Trump/Clinton when there were people who didn't like either
candidate but voted for their least hated candidate so we see people
that don't want to vote for a Democrat but really don't want Trump to
win again so they will be voting for Biden. I've seen quite a few
reports making a fuss over well known Republican leaders that say they
are voting for Biden so if it's happening at the top of the party
there must be more regular voters doing the same thing.
I wonder how many voters new to voting who supported Trump in 2016
bothered to register Republican. Why would they? The Republican Party
never appealed to them in the past as they weren't voters.
Micky DuPree
2020-11-13 14:38:30 UTC
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Post by shawn
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:44:38 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
This year is highly unusual because of the pandemic. Nevertheless,
before the pandemic, waiting in line for hours was much more common
in neighborhoods of color than it was in white neighborhoods. I've
always lived in neighborhoods that were between 52%-85% white, and
only once have I ever had to wait in line for more than about eight
minutes. (I think it was 45 minutes in 2008.)
How odd. I lived in several neighborhoods that weren't majority
white. I never had unusual waits to vote at the polls.
Maybe our election administration is less incompetant than yours and
capable of hiring election judges?
I wonder if it depends upon the state.
Bingo. If you live in a blue state, particularly if you live in a blue
county in a blue state, you are unlikely to experience the
disproportionate wait times I've described. Frankly, I thought that
went without saying, but apparently not. Of course, because of the
pandemic, this was not a normal election year.
Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by The Horny Goat
"Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election
Project found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to
be cast by Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters
at "exit polls"?
No, some states, though not all states, release the data on the
party of registration of those who have voted.
H.G. is correct. They've been doing "exit polling" of early voters
and those who voted by mail. They're targetted telephone polls.
That's how they learn of party affiliation and voting choices.
Exit polling was not the source of the information in the Vox article
linked to above, in which the quote about the ratio of registered
Democrats to registered Republicans voting was specifically derived from
the U.S. Elections Project stats that Vox linked to in its article,
which were compiled based on publicly available stats about the number of
party-specific registrations in some (but not all) states:

<https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html>
Post by shawn
Really? So no one has a listed party registration? In Georgia you
don't have to declare a party registration but the option is there.
As the Elections Project web site says when you click on "Total Voted":

"Party registration statistics are provided only for states that
have party registration

Total Voted by Party Registration

Reporting states with party registration data: AZ, CA, CO, CT,
FL, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, ME, NC, NE, NJ, NM, NV, OK, OR, PA, SD"

Georgia evidently does not report its party registration stats.

-Micky
Ed Stasiak
2020-11-13 21:28:17 UTC
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Micky DuPree
Post by shawn
shawn
I wonder if it depends upon the state.
Bingo. If you live in a blue state, particularly if you live in
a blue county in a blue state, you are unlikely to experience
the disproportionate wait times I've described.
I’m in Michigan and every election, the ONLY places that have long wait
times to vote and other problems, are Dem strongholds like Detroit, the
rest of the state somehow manages to have properly run elections.
FPP
2020-10-19 04:04:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 + years
of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our country are
done separately at separate times - we go to the provincial polls next
Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40 minutes to vote and usually
less than 10 while you folks seem to find 4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
Nothing. It's what you're NOT doing that makes the difference. You
guys haven't been TRYING to suppress the vote ever since black folk were
given that right.

Either that, or you really suck at doing it.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-10-19 04:16:53 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas. High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 + years
of federal, provincial and municipal voting (which in our country are
done separately at separate times - we go to the provincial polls next
Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40 minutes to vote and usually
less than 10 while you folks seem to find 4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the same
time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the majority of
voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
“There’s no analog in American history to compare this to,” Becker said.
“This is history.”
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election Project
found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be cast by
Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
Post by FPP
You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout - by
orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
Well that's pure crap as mathematically "by an order of magnitude"
means 10-fold and '2 orders of magnitude' means 100 fold - and could
ONLY be mathematically possible if 10% or less of registered American
voters had voted in 2016 which I know is not so.
Typing 'what was the US voter turnout in 2016?" into Google gives
percentages between 55-60% over the last 5 elections and an 'order of
magnitude higher" would mean a voter turnout of 550-600% which would
mean the AVERAGE American voter had voted 5.5 - 6 times per election
over the last 20 years.
Is THAT what you're saying? Because that's the meaning of what you
clearly said.
A more likely explanation is mathematical illiteracy which can be
corrected by a trained teacher of grade school mathematics.
Not 'exit polling', actual voting data. And we were speaking of EARLY
voting, not all voting.
It's right there in all my quotes.

"Early vote 2016: Total number of ballots cast in all reporting
jurisdictions: 47,015,596"

"As of Oct 16, 2020, early voting numbers were nearly seven times what
they were at the same time in 2016."

We have over 2 weeks to go... and most states JUST started early voting.
We're already at 7 times the number. You don't think it can get to 10
times in the next 2 weeks? That would be an order of magnitude.

Shove your 'grade school mathematics' up your ass. I know how to use a
calculator.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-10-19 04:40:04 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by FPP
"In some states, early voting turnout is even higher: 39 percent in
Vermont, 30 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Texas.  High early voting
turnout was evidenced by long lines and crashing online voter
registration portals.
What I would like to know is how I a Canadian have NEVER in 35 + years
of federal, provincial and  municipal voting (which in our country are
done separately at separate times - we go to the provincial polls next
Saturday) have NEVER waited more than 40 minutes to vote and usually
less than 10 while you folks seem to find 4+ hours commonplace.
What are we doing right that you aren't (or vice versa)?
Post by FPP
This early voting turnout has shattered records. As of last Sunday,
early voting numbers were nearly seven times what they were at the same
time in 2016. At this rate, for the first time ever, the majority of
voters might cast their ballots before Election Day.
“There’s no analog in American history to compare this to,” Becker said.
“This is history.”
Of the states where partisan data is already available, Election Project
found that, so far, early votes were twice as likely to be cast by
Democrats than Republicans."
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/16/21517898/voter-registration-turnout-presidential-election-2020
I'm assuming that info is derived from what people tell pollsters at
"exit polls"?
Post by FPP
You can take it to the bank that 2020 will dwarf the 2016 turnout - by
orders of magnitude... but don't take MY word for it.
Well that's pure crap as mathematically "by an order of magnitude"
means 10-fold and '2 orders of magnitude' means 100 fold - and could
ONLY be mathematically possible if 10% or less of registered American
voters had voted in 2016 which I know is not so.
Typing 'what was the US voter turnout in 2016?" into Google gives
percentages between 55-60% over the last 5 elections and an 'order of
magnitude higher" would mean a voter turnout of 550-600% which would
mean the AVERAGE American voter had voted 5.5 - 6 times per election
over the last 20 years.
Is THAT what you're saying? Because that's the meaning of what you
clearly said.
A more likely explanation is mathematical illiteracy which can be
corrected by a trained teacher of grade school mathematics.
Not 'exit polling', actual voting data.  And we were speaking of EARLY
voting, not all voting.
It's right there in all my quotes.
"Early vote 2016: Total number of ballots cast in all reporting
jurisdictions: 47,015,596"
"As of Oct 16, 2020, early voting numbers were nearly seven times what
they were at the same time in 2016."
We have over 2 weeks to go... and most states JUST started early voting.
 We're already at 7 times the number.  You don't think it can get to 10
times in the next 2 weeks?   That would be an order of magnitude.
Shove your 'grade school mathematics' up your ass.  I know how to use a
calculator.
Oct 16, 2016 - Total 1,400,000 early votes cast.
Oct 16, 2020 - Total 10,600,000 early votes cast.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/13/early-voting-in-2020-us-election-already-smashing-2016-levels.html

Still think I'm guilty of 'mathematical illiteracy'? Because I see it
as a 'mathematical possibility'... maybe even a 'mathematical probability'.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-19 20:12:17 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
moviePig
2020-10-19 22:11:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by moviePig
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
FPP
2020-10-19 22:50:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by moviePig
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by moviePig
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than you
say?

Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds after
4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?

Trumpists will NEVER change their minds. His most fervent supporters
didn't let even the threat of death change their minds. If 220,000
deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-19 23:39:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by moviePig
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than you
say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds after
4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent supporters
didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.  If 220,000
deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction? Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
FPP
2020-10-20 02:55:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by moviePig
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than
you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent supporters
didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.  If 220,000
deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-20 03:24:03 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by moviePig
Post by FPP
Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than
you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent supporters
didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.  If 220,000
deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
FPP
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than
you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.
If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Why? Harris isn't the nominee if Biden dies. It's not like there's a
line of succession, pig.
The party decides, not the nominees.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more
than you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.
If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Why?  Harris isn't the nominee if Biden dies.  It's not like there's a
line of succession, pig.
The party decides, not the nominees.
Why? Because he wanted to make a fucked up insinuation about Kamala is all.
moviePig
2020-10-20 13:50:14 UTC
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more
than you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.
If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Why?  Harris isn't the nominee if Biden dies.  It's not like there's a
line of succession, pig.
The party decides, not the nominees.
If Biden's ongoing health were seen to be in serious jeopardy, the
headlines -- and voters' heads -- would give more serious attention
(than they do now) to the idea of Harris as President. Trump would
likely focus on that, even to the extent of dragging out his "nasty
woman" shtick, not to mention "Birther Controversy 2.0". Many voters
who (merely) dislike Trump now might lean toward "stability". Bear in
mind that voter-rationality is always just a supporting role.
FPP
2020-10-20 13:55:12 UTC
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more
than you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.
If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden
gets Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Why?  Harris isn't the nominee if Biden dies.  It's not like there's a
line of succession, pig.
The party decides, not the nominees.
If Biden's ongoing health were seen to be in serious jeopardy, the
headlines -- and voters' heads -- would give more serious attention
(than they do now) to the idea of Harris as President.  Trump would
likely focus on that, even to the extent of dragging out his "nasty
woman" shtick, not to mention "Birther Controversy 2.0".  Many voters
who (merely) dislike Trump now might lean toward "stability".  Bear in
mind that voter-rationality is always just a supporting role.
Biden is almost a million. Everybody's already looked at Harris as his
possible replacement.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-20 16:57:04 UTC
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more
than you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.
If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden
gets Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Why?  Harris isn't the nominee if Biden dies.  It's not like there's a
line of succession, pig.
The party decides, not the nominees.
If Biden's ongoing health were seen to be in serious jeopardy, the
headlines -- and voters' heads -- would give more serious attention
(than they do now) to the idea of Harris as President.  Trump would
likely focus on that, even to the extent of dragging out his "nasty
woman" shtick, not to mention "Birther Controversy 2.0".  Many voters
who (merely) dislike Trump now might lean toward "stability".  Bear in
mind that voter-rationality is always just a supporting role.
How many of these "many voters" have you talked to?
moviePig
2020-10-20 18:26:52 UTC
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why
the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been
doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more
than you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their
minds. If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you
think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden
gets Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Why?  Harris isn't the nominee if Biden dies.  It's not like there's
a line of succession, pig.
The party decides, not the nominees.
If Biden's ongoing health were seen to be in serious jeopardy, the
headlines -- and voters' heads -- would give more serious attention
(than they do now) to the idea of Harris as President.  Trump would
likely focus on that, even to the extent of dragging out his "nasty
woman" shtick, not to mention "Birther Controversy 2.0".  Many voters
who (merely) dislike Trump now might lean toward "stability".  Bear in
mind that voter-rationality is always just a supporting role.
How many of these "many voters" have you talked to?
Not many, but I've listened to some...
trotsky
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than
you say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds
after 4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent
supporters didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.
If 220,000 deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
You're asking me to write science fiction?  Okay, what if Biden gets
Covid? ...badly?
Unless he dies, nothing happens.
And that WOULD be a bombshell, now wouldn't it?
I think even a Biden illness would have voters evaluating Harris,
seriously this time.
Just shut the fuck up already. You're impinging on Thanny's territory.
trotsky
2020-10-20 12:39:23 UTC
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. . .
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
So, you're willing to write-off all the voters who, by some astonishing
improbable miracle, still consider themselves today to be undecided?
As painful as it is to say, FPP isn't wrong here. Pollsters find no
significant number of undecided voters, perhaps fewer than 5%. All we're
left with are people who are so disappointed with either Trump or Biden who
may not be motivated enough to vote for president. Those aren't
undecided voters, just unmotivated voters.
Not everyone whose mind can be changed realizes it.
Pig... why do you constantly refute things people who know more than you
say?
Barring a bombshell, what do you think will change people's minds after
4 years of watching a slow moving train wreck?
Trumpists will NEVER change their minds.  His most fervent supporters
didn't let even the threat of death change their minds.  If 220,000
deaths won't change their minds, what do you think will?
He seems to be talking about himself exclusively. I'm not sure why. I
don't give a shit who he votes for, he lives south of the Mason-Dixon
line so he probably thinks it's his heritage to do and say batshit crazy
stuff like this.
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head
and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during
the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by now,
you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot, or find
a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a map and a
flashlight.
And that's being generous. pig mus be "undecided" then. That's just sad.
moviePig
2020-10-18 17:33:33 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
FPP
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really? What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'

And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life, or
the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the tens of
millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?

Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
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2020-10-19 02:34:02 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life, or
the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the tens of
millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
"Hunter is Biden's love-child with Hillary!!!" Hell, I don't know, but
iirc a late story about an eMail-server put longshot Trump in the WH...
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the president,
ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent,
pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit
of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's
closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two
hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life, or
the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the tens of
millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
"Hunter is Biden's love-child with Hillary!!!"  Hell, I don't know, but
iirc a late story about an eMail-server put longshot Trump in the WH...
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, and you're a fucking fool."
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-19 14:53:15 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater
anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the
president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an
independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit
of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's
closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with
two hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life,
or the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the
tens of millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
"Hunter is Biden's love-child with Hillary!!!"  Hell, I don't know,
but iirc a late story about an eMail-server put longshot Trump in the
WH...
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, and you're a fucking fool."
If that particular bit of rationality held any sway at all with the
public, Lindsey Graham, e.g., wouldn't be headed for re-election.
trotsky
2020-10-19 17:39:55 UTC
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If that particular bit of rationality held any sway at all with the
public, Lindsey Graham, e.g., wouldn't be headed for re-election.
So your Republican brain thinks Miss Lindsey is getting reelected?
Reelected to clean up the golden showers maybe.
FPP
2020-10-19 20:01:02 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with
ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the
wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater
anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the
president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an
independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful
bit of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind
Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with
two hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life,
or the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the
tens of millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
"Hunter is Biden's love-child with Hillary!!!"  Hell, I don't know,
but iirc a late story about an eMail-server put longshot Trump in the
WH...
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, and you're a fucking fool."
If that particular bit of rationality held any sway at all with the
public, Lindsey Graham, e.g., wouldn't be headed for re-election.
Given his state, he sure SHOULD be. You've got to do some serious work
to fuck up South Carolina.

It was the first state that seceded from the Union, for Christ sakes...
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-19 22:14:52 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with
ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the
wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater
anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the
president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an
independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration
attorney and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind
the president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful
bit of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind
Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with
two hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life,
or the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the
tens of millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
"Hunter is Biden's love-child with Hillary!!!"  Hell, I don't know,
but iirc a late story about an eMail-server put longshot Trump in
the WH...
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, and you're a fucking fool."
If that particular bit of rationality held any sway at all with the
public, Lindsey Graham, e.g., wouldn't be headed for re-election.
Given his state, he sure SHOULD be.  You've got to do some serious work
to fuck up South Carolina.
It was the first state that seceded from the Union, for Christ sakes...
And his opponent's black. Better a patently duplicitous liar, I guess...
trotsky
2020-10-20 12:28:53 UTC
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"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, and you're a fucking fool."
If that particular bit of rationality held any sway at all with the
public, Lindsey Graham, e.g., wouldn't be headed for re-election.
Given his state, he sure SHOULD be.  You've got to do some serious work
to fuck up South Carolina.
It was the first state that seceded from the Union, for Christ sakes...
pig was just a small boy then.
FPP
2020-10-19 04:22:29 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the president,
ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent,
pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit
of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's
closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two
hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life, or
the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the tens of
millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
"Hunter is Biden's love-child with Hillary!!!"  Hell, I don't know, but
iirc a late story about an eMail-server put longshot Trump in the WH...
They already tried with the Grate Unmasking Scandal. It fizzled.
Then they tried it with the Grate Durham Report. It's not coming out
before the election.
Then they tried it with the Grate Hunter Biden Laptop Affair. Nobody
outside of Murdoch owned enterprises is buying it.

Take my word for it... this isn't 2016. Next you're going to see the
Grate Hunter Biden has Child Porn on His Laptop Scandal.

That one won't work either. The computer guy is legally blind, which is
why he says he can't even be sure the guy who dropped the laptop off
*WAS* Hunter Biden.

They'll try... but when it comes to telling the truth, they have ZERO
credibility in the bank.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-10-19 14:00:00 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig mus be "undecided" then.  That's just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Really?  What exactly could you hear about Joe Biden that would
fundamentally change your opinion of him?'
And will that bring any of the 220,000 dead Americans back to life, or
the millions of lost jobs, or trillions of lost wealth, or the tens of
millions of people who WILL lose their healthcare?
Biden could be Hitler's love child, and STILL come out ahead of Trump.
You can't make this stuff up. How do you take a dude seriously who says
"I'm still trying to figure out who the better candidate is". And isn't
it particularly damning for pig that he will only speak of this in the
abstract?
trotsky
2020-10-19 14:08:46 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and
Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we don't
know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig must be "undecided" then.  That's just
sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Which purposes are those, obfuscation?
moviePig
2020-10-19 14:55:41 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig must be "undecided" then.  That's
just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Which purposes are those, obfuscation?
Then let's try this:

'Undecided' is anyone who hasn't voted yet.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-10-19 20:18:32 UTC
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. . .
And that's being generous.  pig must be "undecided" then.  That's
just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Which purposes are those, obfuscation?
'Undecided' is anyone who hasn't voted yet.
Let's not. That's not what the word means.

God you're an idiot.

"Undecided" means a voter who tells a pollster that he hasn't chosen
which candidate to vote for. It's really that simple to use common
English words correctly.
FPP
2020-10-19 19:56:55 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday
evening and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her
head and giving a thumbs up behind the president, ran for a
Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president
during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible
audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of
viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a ballot,
or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two hands, a
map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig must be "undecided" then.  That's
just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Which purposes are those, obfuscation?
Pig doesn't understand they've already tried AT LEAST 3 different
'October Surprises' already.

You'll note how effective they've been by the fact that practically
nobody is taking them seriously.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-10-19 22:16:05 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the president,
ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an independent,
pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit
of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's
closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with two
hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig must be "undecided" then.  That's
just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Which purposes are those, obfuscation?
Pig doesn't understand they've already tried AT LEAST 3 different
'October Surprises' already.
You'll note how effective they've been by the fact that practically
nobody is taking them seriously.
It's still October...
FPP
2020-10-19 22:51:29 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC
News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater
anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall
Thursday evening and gained notoriety on social media for
nodding her head and giving a thumbs up behind the
president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018 as an
independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney
and Trump supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the
president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since
audible audience reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit
of viewer-manipulation to place her directly behind Trump's
closeup,
Horseshit.
What is?
Which viewers were capable of "being manipulated"?
Undecideds ...of whom there must still be a few or else why the angst.
Not to mention, subliminal persuasion works on all of us if we
don't know it's happening...
Really... if you don't have an opinion of how Trump's been doing by
now, you're surely not smart enough to be able to fill out a
ballot, or find a polling place, or a mailbox, or your ass with
two hands, a map and a flashlight.
And that's being generous.  pig must be "undecided" then.  That's
just sad.
For purposes here, "undecided" applies to anyone whose vote (or
intention to vote) could yet be changed ...say, by an October surprise.
Which purposes are those, obfuscation?
Pig doesn't understand they've already tried AT LEAST 3 different
'October Surprises' already.
You'll note how effective they've been by the fact that practically
nobody is taking them seriously.
It's still October...
14 days. 5 hours. 7 minutes.
--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
super70s
2020-10-17 20:20:42 UTC
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I hope considerable attention gets paid to this. Since audible audience
reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of viewer-manipulation to
place her directly behind Trump's closeup, emotionally underscoring with
"spontaneous" communal approval his plain-for-all-to-see sagacity.
I've noticed at Trump's rallies lately just about everybody sitting
behind him on camera is wearing a mask while very few in front of him in
the larger audience are.
FPP
2020-10-17 21:30:39 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
No, you're not, are you?
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday evening
and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head and giving a
thumbs up behind the president, ran for a Congressional seat in 2018
as an independent, pro-Trump candidate.
According to the Miami Herald, Florida immigration attorney and Trump
supporter Mayra Joli was seated behind the president during the town hall."
Fuck, counselor... but you are a KLOWN!
I hope considerable attention gets paid to this.  Since audible audience
reaction was forbidden, it was an artful bit of viewer-manipulation to
place her directly behind Trump's closeup, emotionally underscoring with
"spontaneous" communal approval his plain-for-all-to-see sagacity.
Don't you know that Joe Biden PLANTED her behind Trump? Thanny can tell
you that!
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There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

If you hired a guy to "Make My House Great Again", and he hired his
incompetent children, stole your money, gave it away to your richest
neighbors, let everyone get sick, killed your grandma, backed over your
mailbox, burned down your house and blamed it on your black friends next
door... would YOU hire him AGAIN?

REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.
Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Ubiquitous
2020-10-19 02:12:51 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
Post by Ubiquitous
Biden, during the exchange that followed that question, was
asked point-blank by Stephanopoulos whether voters deserve to
know his stance on court-packing, and Biden reversed his
previous stance of refusing to say what that position is
before Election Day. He told the moderator that he would take
a specific stand on that issue depending on how Republicans
handle the ongoing confirmation effort of Supreme Court
nominee Amy Coney Barrett.
Isn't it ironic that Dems are demanding Barrett tell them how she'll rule
on various issues before she has the job, but Biden says voters don't
deserve to know his position on destroying our third branch of government
until he already has the job?
I think it's only fair that the judges who were selected when Biden was VP
recuse themselves from any cases that come their way that are related to
the election.

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Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
love this country.
Ed Stasiak
2020-10-21 22:21:18 UTC
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FPP
"A woman who attended President Trump’s NBC town hall Thursday evening
and gained notoriety on social media for nodding her head and giving a
thumbs up behind the president
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trotsky
2020-10-17 12:53:55 UTC
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At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
Are you quoting someone or just stroking your magic mushroom whilst typing?
Ubiquitous
2020-10-17 14:54:55 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
At least two of the ‘voters’ in Biden’s town hall with ABC News last
night included a former speech writer for Obama and the wife of a
LOL! They're not even trying to hide their Kabuki theater anymore.”
Post by Ubiquitous
Biden, during the exchange that followed that question, was
asked point-blank by Stephanopoulos whether voters deserve to
know his stance on court-packing, and Biden reversed his
previous stance of refusing to say what that position is
before Election Day. He told the moderator that he would take
a specific stand on that issue depending on how Republicans
handle the ongoing confirmation effort of Supreme Court
nominee Amy Coney Barrett.
Isn't it ironic that Dems are demanding Barrett tell them how she'll rule
on various issues before she has the job, but Biden says voters don't
deserve to know his position on destroying our third branch of government
until he already has the job?
Well, it's nothing new... remmeber what Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi said about
ObamaCare?

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Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
love this country.
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