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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Pollice' on Police Cars
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BTR1701
2019-04-16 01:45:10 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
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2019-04-16 01:56:40 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
But, you wrote "pollice". Pathological liar.
Rhino
2019-04-16 02:45:19 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism. What the hell?
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shawn
2019-04-16 03:07:15 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism. What the hell?
If you read the article they said that over 95% of the calls were
positive. So it's just a few people that are against this. Hell the
one guy they quote seems to be against it more on a artistic basis
than anything else.
FPP
2019-04-16 04:41:54 UTC
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:45:19 -0400, Rhino
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Post by BTR1701
Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism. What the hell?
If you read the article they said that over 95% of the calls were
positive. So it's just a few people that are against this. Hell the
one guy they quote seems to be against it more on a artistic basis
than anything else.
It is. Most people don't care one way, or the other. Those that do
care are overwhelmingly happy with it.

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The Horny Goat
2019-04-16 16:26:10 UTC
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https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism. What the hell?
If you read the article they said that over 95% of the calls were
positive. So it's just a few people that are against this. Hell the
one guy they quote seems to be against it more on a artistic basis
than anything else.
So what would the 5% prefer instead of "police"?

That one word on the side of the cruiser is plenty clear.
David Johnston
2019-04-16 04:45:15 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism. What the hell?
Bear in mind that they're actually saying the response is overwhelmingly
positive. That they got a couple of negative responses is only to be
expected. And one of those responses was about it looking butt-ugly to
him.
BTR1701
2019-04-16 05:39:46 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive
and militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of
the American flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped
at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism. What the hell?
Bear in mind that they're actually saying the response is overwhelmingly
positive. That they got a couple of negative responses is only to be
expected.
Yabbut, what's not to be expected is for that tiny minority of objectors
to overrule the 95% of the people who like it, which seems like what
might happen, since the council is holding a hearing to reconsider the
fleet's markings.
b***@gmail.com
2019-04-18 02:11:14 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Jeez! I thought Orange County was supposed to be a bastion of
conservatism.
All congressmen there (except for Duncan Hunter’s kid) are dems.
trotsky
2019-04-16 11:49:02 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
So which is it, pollice or police?

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A Friend
2019-04-16 14:56:19 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
So which is it, pollice or police?
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point. The story
is not about working flag symbology into the word "Police," or
terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police department appears to
be run by a windbag who wants the force to reflect the paramilitary
design he prefers, while the old-look skin (also seen in the pic at the
link) better reflects what's supposed to be the force's civilian
identity. In fact, no one seems certain about which design actually
won the competition, what with all the completely unsubstantiated
bullshit about how 95% of the population prefers the flag motif.
BTR1701
2019-04-16 16:51:41 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point. The story
is not about working flag symbology into the word "Police," or
terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police department appears to
be run by a windbag who wants the force to reflect the paramilitary
design he prefers
There is literally nothing about that logo design that is militaristic.
It's actually the opposite of militaristic. Look at actual military
vehicles and you'll see nothing like that on them. (Hint: bright colors and
huge fonts are nothing but massive target identifiers in a combat setting.
There's a reason the military paints their vehicles to blend in with the
surrounding environment.)
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while the old-look skin (also seen in the pic at the
link) better reflects what's supposed to be the force's civilian
identity. In fact, no one seems certain about which design actually
won the competition, what with all the completely unsubstantiated
bullshit about how 95% of the population prefers the flag motif.
It's substantiated. The officer in the article reported his personal
experience. In court, that would be valid eyewitness testimony. It's
certainly good enough for a news article and refutes your claim that it's
'completely unsubstantiated'.
A Friend
2019-04-16 21:13:05 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point. The story
is not about working flag symbology into the word "Police," or
terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police department appears to
be run by a windbag who wants the force to reflect the paramilitary
design he prefers
There is literally nothing about that logo design that is militaristic.
It's actually the opposite of militaristic. Look at actual military
vehicles and you'll see nothing like that on them. (Hint: bright colors and
huge fonts are nothing but massive target identifiers in a combat setting.
There's a reason the military paints their vehicles to blend in with the
surrounding environment.)
The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look. The
flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to be a
local, civilian police force. The intention here, clearly, is to
intimidate at least some of the public while claiming it's all just
about the flag. You're also confusing "militaristic" with
"camouflage." That look is meant to intimidate.
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Post by A Friend
while the old-look skin (also seen in the pic at the
link) better reflects what's supposed to be the force's civilian
identity. In fact, no one seems certain about which design actually
won the competition, what with all the completely unsubstantiated
bullshit about how 95% of the population prefers the flag motif.
It's substantiated. The officer in the article reported his personal
experience. In court, that would be valid eyewitness testimony. It's
certainly good enough for a news article and refutes your claim that it's
'completely unsubstantiated'.
Cpl. Hotchkiss is not merely "the officer," but the head of the local
police union, and he pulled the "95% love it" statistic straight out of
his ass. There's no substantiation at all -- no newspaper poll, no
nothin'. Pretending that his cite rises to the level of "valid
eyewitness testimony," especially while not in court under oath, is
absurd.

The mayor pro tem claimed he'd received 200 emails about this and said:
³The sole sentiment has been unanimous. Everyone loves the flag.² The
cited devotion to the flag aside, "everyone" loves this look? There's
an ex-Navy SEAL right there in the story who doesn't.

And I'm refuted by these two schmucks? Now *that's* comedy.
BTR1701
2019-04-17 02:24:19 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive
and militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of
the American flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped
at all costs.
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point. The story
is not about working flag symbology into the word "Police," or
terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police department appears to
be run by a windbag who wants the force to reflect the paramilitary
design he prefers
There is literally nothing about that logo design that is militaristic.
It's actually the opposite of militaristic. Look at actual military
vehicles and you'll see nothing like that on them. (Hint: bright colors and
huge fonts are nothing but massive target identifiers in a combat setting.
There's a reason the military paints their vehicles to blend in with the
surrounding environment.)
The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look.
Which is not militaristic.
Post by A Friend
The flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to be a
local, civilian police force.
Civilian police forces in America have incorporated the flag and
red-white-blue into their uniforms and dressage for the over a century.
Hell, most cops have the *actual* flag on their uniforms. There's
nothing inappropriate about it as every law enforcement officer swears
an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the
United States, not just their own local laws.
Post by A Friend
The intention here, clearly, is to intimidate at least some of the public
while claiming it's all just about the flag.
Oh, baloney. Anyone who's intimidated by the word 'police' on a cop car
needs to get out from beneath his mother's skirt and figure out how to
live in the big ol' mean world.
Post by A Friend
You're also confusing "militaristic" with "camouflage."
No, I'm not. I'm pointing out that the military doesn't do anything like
that with any of their vehicles so calling it "militaristic" doesn't
make any damn sense.
A Friend
2019-04-17 08:23:23 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive
and militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of
the American flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped
at all costs.
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point. The story
is not about working flag symbology into the word "Police," or
terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police department appears to
be run by a windbag who wants the force to reflect the paramilitary
design he prefers
There is literally nothing about that logo design that is militaristic.
It's actually the opposite of militaristic. Look at actual military
vehicles and you'll see nothing like that on them. (Hint: bright colors and
huge fonts are nothing but massive target identifiers in a combat setting.
There's a reason the military paints their vehicles to blend in with the
surrounding environment.)
The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look.
Which is not militaristic.
Sure it is, but let's go with "purposefully intimidating."
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to be a
local, civilian police force.
Civilian police forces in America have incorporated the flag and
red-white-blue into their uniforms and dressage for the over a century.
Hell, most cops have the *actual* flag on their uniforms. There's
nothing inappropriate about it as every law enforcement officer swears
an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the
United States, not just their own local laws.
Of course it's inappropriate, as they're not a federal police force.
The flag stuff -- well, I don't remember it existing before the Vietnam
War, and I'm from a cop family. In any case, the wearing of flag
patches and pins isn't on this level.
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The intention here, clearly, is to intimidate at least some of the public
while claiming it's all just about the flag.
Oh, baloney. Anyone who's intimidated by the word 'police' on a cop car
needs to get out from beneath his mother's skirt and figure out how to
live in the big ol' mean world.
There is Police and there is POLICE. Why does Laguna Beach cops feel
the need to bullhorn their way around town?
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Post by A Friend
You're also confusing "militaristic" with "camouflage."
No, I'm not. I'm pointing out that the military doesn't do anything like
that with any of their vehicles so calling it "militaristic" doesn't
make any damn sense.
I know what "militaristic" means, and I'm sticking by my point, which
makes perfect damn sense. The cops don't need the flag motif and the
big block lettering on their cars, unless their intention is to
intimidate the population. The alternative car looked fine. It even
had POLICE on it, in bold black letters.
BTR1701
2019-04-17 15:30:55 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now
"aggressive and militaristic", and if you combine it with
a stylistic display of the American flag, you're terrorizing
illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point.
The story is not about working flag symbology into the word
"Police," or terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police
department appears to be run by a windbag who wants the force
to reflect the paramilitary design he prefers
There is literally nothing about that logo design that is
militaristic. It's actually the opposite of militaristic. Look
at actual military vehicles and you'll see nothing like that on
them. (Hint: bright colors and huge fonts are nothing but massive
target identifiers in a combat setting. There's a reason the
military paints their vehicles to blend in with the surrounding
environment.)
The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look.
Which is not militaristic.
Sure it is
No, it's not because the military does nothing similar with its vehicles.
Post by A Friend
but let's go with "purposefully intimidating."
You can, but I'll decline as I'm not a hysterical child.
Post by A Friend
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to
be a local, civilian police force.
Civilian police forces in America have incorporated the flag and
red-white-blue into their uniforms and dressage for the over a century.
Hell, most cops have the *actual* flag on their uniforms. There's
nothing inappropriate about it as every law enforcement officer swears
an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the
United States, not just their own local laws.
Of course it's inappropriate, as they're not a federal police force.
Other than your own bizarre opinion, what objective standard limits the
use of the flag and/or its colors on vehicles to only federal law
enforcement?
Post by A Friend
The flag stuff -- well, I don't remember it existing before the Vietnam
War, and I'm from a cop family. In any case, the wearing of flag
patches and pins isn't on this level.
And what level is that? Red, white and blue letters is some kind of
appalling escalation from using the actual flag itself on uniforms and,
you know, flying it on flagpoles in front of the department? When a cop
dies in the line of duty, he/she is buried under those colors but heaven
forfend they be on the car they drive in any way?
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Post by A Friend
The intention here, clearly, is to intimidate at least some of the
public while claiming it's all just about the flag.
Oh, baloney. Anyone who's intimidated by the word 'police' on a cop car
needs to get out from beneath his mother's skirt and figure out how to
live in the big ol' mean world.
There is Police and there is POLICE.
Only to a shrinking violet, man-bearded, latte-sipping hipster who still
lives with mom and spends his day talking about 'intersectionality' and
being triggered by micro-aggressions.

Appeasing such people shouldn't be anyone's concern.
Post by A Friend
Why does Laguna Beach cops feel the need to bullhorn their way around
town?
LOL! If they drove past your house in that car, you'd never know it,
unless you happened to be looking directly at the car. Not much of a
bullhorn.

I'm chuckling at the mental image of you looking out the window, seeing
a police car with colorful letters, and shrieking and hiding under a bed
as this intimidating war wagon cruises through your neighborhood.
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You're also confusing "militaristic" with "camouflage."
No, I'm not. I'm pointing out that the military doesn't do anything like
that with any of their vehicles so calling it "militaristic" doesn't
make any damn sense.
I know what "militaristic" means, and I'm sticking by my point
Okay. That's your choice, I suppose. Everyone has the right to be
nonsensical if they want.
Post by A Friend
The cops don't need the flag motif and the big block lettering on
their cars, unless their intention is to intimidate the population.
People also don't need to fear fonts or colors unless they're either
hysterical man-babies or are the sort of person that's not happy unless
they're offended about something at least twice an hour.
Post by A Friend
The alternative car looked fine.
So does this one.
Post by A Friend
It even had POLICE on it, in bold black letters.
Oh my god! A cop car had the word 'police' on it? And the letters were
*black*? Dear god, black is widely known as a very intimidating color.
The Nazis used black uniforms and vehicles, for fuck's sweet sake! What
were those fascist cops thinking? Are you okay? Do you need to talk to a
therapist or something? I'm surprised you've emotionally recovered
enough to even talk about it.
A Friend
2019-04-17 20:01:17 UTC
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It even had POLICE on it, in bold black letters.
Oh my god! A cop car had the word 'police' on it? And the letters were
*black*? Dear god, black is widely known as a very intimidating color.
The Nazis used black uniforms and vehicles, for fuck's sweet sake! What
were those fascist cops thinking? Are you okay? Do you need to talk to a
therapist or something? I'm surprised you've emotionally recovered
enough to even talk about it.
You know exactly what my point was about that.

The cops' fake patriotism won out. You should be very happy.
The Horny Goat
2019-04-17 14:21:38 UTC
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The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look.
Which is not militaristic.
Agreed
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to be a
local, civilian police force.
Civilian police forces in America have incorporated the flag and
red-white-blue into their uniforms and dressage for the over a century.
Hell, most cops have the *actual* flag on their uniforms. There's
nothing inappropriate about it as every law enforcement officer swears
an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the
United States, not just their own local laws.
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political. Am perfectly fine having
the first responders wearing the flag shoulder patch.
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The intention here, clearly, is to intimidate at least some of the public
while claiming it's all just about the flag.
Oh, baloney. Anyone who's intimidated by the word 'police' on a cop car
needs to get out from beneath his mother's skirt and figure out how to
live in the big ol' mean world.
Agreed.
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
You're also confusing "militaristic" with "camouflage."
No, I'm not. I'm pointing out that the military doesn't do anything like
that with any of their vehicles so calling it "militaristic" doesn't
make any damn sense.
The only camouflage I've seen in civilian police have been in SWAT
teams and similar units. Have never seen a police vehicle with that
kind of paint job.

Of course I'm a Canadian and the RCMP have always been considered at
least partly militaristic - while most people think of RCMP horses in
terms of the Musical Ride, in the late 19th century they were
regularly used as light cavalry on the prairies and of the 5000
Canadian troops sent to Russia in 1919, 1500 of them were RCMP.
anim8rfsk
2019-04-17 14:43:39 UTC
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April 17, 2019 at 7:21:38 AM MST
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Post by A Friend
The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look.
Which is not militaristic.
Agreed
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to be a
local, civilian police force.
Civilian police forces in America have incorporated the flag and
red-white-blue into their uniforms and dressage for the over a century.
Hell, most cops have the *actual* flag on their uniforms. There's
nothing inappropriate about it as every law enforcement officer swears
an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the
United States, not just their own local laws.
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
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2019-04-17 15:05:16 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 7:21:38 AM MST
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Post by A Friend
The word "Police" is gigantic when judged against the other look.
Which is not militaristic.
Agreed
Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
The flag motif is an inappropriate display by what is supposed to be a
local, civilian police force.
Civilian police forces in America have incorporated the flag and
red-white-blue into their uniforms and dressage for the over a century.
Hell, most cops have the *actual* flag on their uniforms. There's
nothing inappropriate about it as every law enforcement officer swears
an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the
United States, not just their own local laws.
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
The Horny Goat
2019-04-17 15:14:16 UTC
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I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say <headbang>
BTR1701
2019-04-17 18:00:26 UTC
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I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say <headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a vote
of 4-1.

So now the hipster powderpuffs and the perpetually aggrieved will either
have to suck it up and deal when they see the colors red, white, and blue
on a car driving by or shriek and cower under the nearest table until the
bad letters go away.
anim8rfsk
2019-04-17 20:13:30 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 11:00:26 AM MST
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I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say<headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a vote
of 4-1.
cool beans
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Lauren
2019-04-17 23:02:10 UTC
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cool beans
Cool. Now we know who to VOTE OUT!
BTR1701
2019-04-18 00:04:51 UTC
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cool beans
Cool. Now we know who to VOTE OUT!
You just happen to live in Laguna Beach, do you?

(And even if you do, the constituent response was overwhelmingly in favor
of keeping the design, so no one's going anywhere because of this.)
BTR1701
2019-04-18 00:04:51 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 11:00:26 AM MST
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by The Horny Goat
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say<headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a vote
of 4-1.
cool beans
The local news last night interviewed an idiot at the council meeting who
claimed the word POLICE on the side of the cars was only there as a code to
highlight the "ICE" part of the word in order to freak out illegals.

<facepalm>
anim8rfsk
2019-04-18 01:29:53 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 11:00:26 AM MST
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by The Horny Goat
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like
Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say<headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a vote
of 4-1.
cool beans
The local news last night interviewed an idiot at the council meeting who
claimed the word POLICE on the side of the cars was only there as a code to
highlight the "ICE" part of the word in order to freak out illegals.
<facepalm>
Remember a year or two ago the idiots claiming the term 'black hole' was
racist?

I'm just amazed that didn't resurge given the recent science news.
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The Horny Goat
2019-04-18 04:46:52 UTC
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Remember a year or two ago the idiots claiming the term 'black hole' was
racist?
Don't remember that but DO remember when the term was first used
Russian physicists were REALLY PO'd as apparently in Russian the term
literally translated means "cunt" and is considered much much ruder in
Russian than in English!
A Friend
2019-04-18 10:56:31 UTC
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Remember a year or two ago the idiots claiming the term 'black hole' was
racist?
Don't remember that but DO remember when the term was first used
Russian physicists were REALLY PO'd as apparently in Russian the term
literally translated means "cunt" and is considered much much ruder in
Russian than in English!
It's a great story that turns out not to be true. (BTW the slang term
is supposed to refer to a diseased whore's cunt, not just any old
random cunt.) Jerry Pournelle talked about the "frozen stars" thing in
one of his books of commentary, and got it entirely wrong. He also
said that the Russian term for black hole "means what you think it
means," which was also wrong, as everybody was thinking "asshole."

I found this more knowledgeable thread from 2013:

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Peter Erwin, writing a comment to Language Log
(<http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=352>), says:

   "Frozen star" is a translation of an early Russian term
   for black holes, based on one interpretation of how a
   massive star might collapse and form a black hole. The
   term fell out of favor partly because it only described
   the system from one reference frame, and was thus
   potentially misleading, and partly because it focused
   too much on (one particular) formation mechanism, not
   on the resulting object.

He has a PhD in astronomy from Univ. of Wisc. - Madison and
was at the Max-Planck-Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics
from 2005 at least through 2011, and the 'frozen star'
interpretation did exist, so I'm inclined to think that this
is probably accurate.  If so, the Russian connection is
real, but not the scatological basis for it.

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The Horny Goat
2019-04-20 05:41:03 UTC
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Don't remember that but DO remember when the term was first used
Russian physicists were REALLY PO'd as apparently in Russian the term
literally translated means "cunt" and is considered much much ruder in
Russian than in English!
It's a great story that turns out not to be true. (BTW the slang term
is supposed to refer to a diseased whore's cunt, not just any old
random cunt.) Jerry Pournelle talked about the "frozen stars" thing in
one of his books of commentary, and got it entirely wrong. He also
said that the Russian term for black hole "means what you think it
means," which was also wrong, as everybody was thinking "asshole."
Pournelle is probably my source on that 'factoid' since I read Byte
magazine long after it was popular and Steve Stirling regularly posted
on soc.history.what-if (which I've read for 25 years) in the 90s and
early 00s. If you know those names you probably know that Stirling is
likely Pournelle's greatest disciple :)

BTR1701
2019-04-18 15:11:30 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 11:00:26 AM MST
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by The Horny Goat
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top
but my objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show
like Pacific Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say<headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a
vote of 4-1.
cool beans
The local news last night interviewed an idiot at the council meeting who
claimed the word POLICE on the side of the cars was only there as a code to
highlight the "ICE" part of the word in order to freak out illegals.
<facepalm>
Remember a year or two ago the idiots claiming the term 'black hole' was
racist?
I'm just amazed that didn't resurge given the recent science news.
It wasn't just two years ago. When the movie came out in 1979, film
critic Arthur Knight began his review in The Hollywood Reporter:
"Despite a title that manages to be at once sexist and racist, THE BLACK
HOLE is far from controversial."
anim8rfsk
2019-04-18 17:48:30 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 11:00:26 AM MST
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by The Horny Goat
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top
but my objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show
like Pacific Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say<headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a
vote of 4-1.
cool beans
The local news last night interviewed an idiot at the council meeting who
claimed the word POLICE on the side of the cars was only there as a code to
highlight the "ICE" part of the word in order to freak out illegals.
<facepalm>
Remember a year or two ago the idiots claiming the term 'black hole' was
racist?
I'm just amazed that didn't resurge given the recent science news.
It wasn't just two years ago. When the movie came out in 1979, film
"Despite a title that manages to be at once sexist and racist, THE BLACK
HOLE is far from controversial."
lol
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2019-04-18 10:58:08 UTC
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[OT] Laguna Beach Residents Triggered by the Word 'Police' on Police Cars
April 17, 2019 at 11:00:26 AM MST
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by The Horny Goat
I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say<headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a vote
of 4-1.
cool beans
The local news last night interviewed an idiot at the council meeting who
claimed the word POLICE on the side of the cars was only there as a code to
highlight the "ICE" part of the word in order to freak out illegals.
<facepalm>
And how many illegals did you talk to to find out they didn't react this
way?

You can shut fuck up now you fucking moron.
FPP
2019-04-17 22:58:09 UTC
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I personally find the flag motif on the cruisers over the top but my
objection is aesthetic rather than political.
I think it would look just Peachy Keen on a cop car on a show like Pacific
Blue.
Well, this *is* Laguna Beach. Pretty close.
Very true. Having said that I still say <headbang>
The city council met last night and affirmed the new car design by a vote
of 4-1.
So now the hipster powderpuffs and the perpetually aggrieved will either
have to suck it up and deal when they see the colors red, white, and blue
on a car driving by or shriek and cower under the nearest table until the
bad letters go away.
Says the poster child for the, what WAS that phrase again? Oh, yeah...
"perpetually aggrieved".

So what did "Stretch" Pelosi have to say about it? Anything?
I'm sure she was behind it!
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Hey, what happened to "Pollice", was that a lie?

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trotsky
2019-04-17 12:48:40 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
As usual with these posts, it completely misses the point. The story
is not about working flag symbology into the word "Police," or
terrorizing "illegals," or whatever. The police department appears to
be run by a windbag who wants the force to reflect the paramilitary
design he prefers
There is literally nothing
Can you explain how "figuratively nothing" might be possible?
The Horny Goat
2019-04-16 16:30:14 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
So which is it, pollice or police?
So having looked at the picture it looks like they're more complaining
about the stars and stripes than the word police.

Personally I think the stars and stripes logo looks butt ugly and
would prefer plain black letters (the font is fine) but if that's the
choice of the local authority well good on them.

My comment is purely based on aesthetics and has nothing to do with
'terrorizing illegals' which is a truly stupid comment.
RichA
2019-04-17 14:43:09 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Years ago, they changed the name of the Toronto Police Force to Toronto Police "Service." Pussies.
anim8rfsk
2019-04-17 14:57:38 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Years ago, they changed the name of the Toronto Police Force to Toronto
Police "Service." Pussies.
"To Protect and Force"
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2019-04-18 00:47:32 UTC
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Apparently having the word 'police' on a police car is now "aggressive and
militaristic", and if you combine it with a stylistic display of the American
flag, you're terrorizing illegals and you must be stopped at all costs.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/15/american-flag-logo-on-laguna-beach-
patrol-cars-has-some-concerned-about-the-message-being-delivered/
Years ago, they changed the name of the Toronto Police Force to Toronto
Police "Service." Pussies.
"To Protect and Force"
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"Serve" sounds like they work in a restaurant. They should just phrase it, "To keep the peace."
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