Post by anim8rfsk Post by Jim G. Post by anim8rfsk Post by Jim G.
Perhaps not, but the "taking a knee" bit that you mention is certainly
no more extreme or offensive to me than some of the things that Tip said
over the years that Ronnie disagreed with, and Ronnie still kept
inviting him to the White House. That's the difference between then and
now. Yeah, some of the details and specific issues of contention have
changed since then, but the only real change is how we deal with a
difference of opinion.
I don't agree with the knee bit any more than you do, but I don't think
that it rises to the level of cutting off ties with people who think
that way, whether we're talking about family/friends or someone involved
with a TV show. It's a difference of opinion, not an ignoring of fact.
It happens, and I'm not gonna deprive myself of entertainment as long as
the entertainment on-screen stays out of it. As such, I've heard nothing
from any of the actors' characters on STD that would indicate what their
personal opinions are in real life and there have been no clumsy
attempts to relate things on the show to current events, and that's all
that I ask for.
When they're using it to advertise the show, it cease to be a show I
care to watch.
As I understand it, the kneeling bit came up via questions asked during
a promotional interview. Questions were asked and comments were made
that then began to circulate as other outlets stole the story, as that's
how Hollywood "journalism" works. It's sad that some actors lack the
discretion or self-discipline to avoid preaching at those events, but it
happens. In any case, it continues to be an issue that falls well within
the "agree to disagree" realm for me since it's not such an extreme sort
of a stance that it's gonna get me to cut off ties with someone or
They put out a picture of the whole damn cast kneeling, in costume, on
the bridge set, opening night, to publicize the premiere with America
That's news to me. I just did a search on "cast of star trek discovery
taking a knee" and all I found was one image that the actress who plays
Burnham posted to her personal Instagram account. I didn't see it there,
but in a Breitbart story since, like many sites on both sides of the
aisle, Breitbart is expert at stoking and monetizing online outrage. And
no one is in costume in the photo that I found.
In any case, I don't follow actors online and I don't follow Breitbart,
and if I saw this in my RSS feeds at the time, then I just passed right
on by since I've long since given up on going out of my way to find
things to be angry about.
I compare today's social media-driven society with that of the past and
wonder how many worthwhile shows and movies I would have missed out on
if I'd paid too much attention to the private lives and opinions of the
people making those shows and movies. Would I have passed on Star Trek:
TOS and the rest of the franchise if the Internet had been around at the
time to inform me that Roddenberry was a drug-abusing serial adulterer
and atheist who was banging not one but *two* actresses on TOS? And this
after numerous extramarital affairs while with the LAPD? Or that Shatner
pulled his share of dick moves with his co-stars, including actually
counting lines in scripts? I don't know, but I definitely find things
like that to be more offensive than someone kneeling in a private
Instagram photo in solidarity with those who see certain social
inequities. I mean, heck, there are things that I see that need
critiquing here in the U.S., too, and I'd hate to be labeled as a hater
or a basher just because I acknowledge that things aren't perfect.
Post by anim8rfsk Post by Jim G.
If nothing else, I consider the other people who keep their mouths shut
and would suffer and potentially lose jobs if everyone boycotted shows
over one or two people who can't just shut up. It's not fair to those
innocent and circumspect people to have to pay the price because someone
else is an idiot.
They're *all* idiots.
Idiots who keep their mouths shut don't bother me at all. As for the
others, I don't consider them to be idiots unless I have facts to
demonstrate that idiocy. And there simply are no such facts to use
against the kneelers in this instance, given that some facts support
them and some facts work against them. Which is why I continue to view
it as a difference of opinion.
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Captain, respectfully submit that the attractiveness of the ship's
occupant makes the rescue imperative." -- Lt. Gordon Malloy, THE ORVILLE