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BTR1701
2021-04-07 00:46:48 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version

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Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher’s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.

The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.

The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."

One source also told the outlet that Gadot had "issues about her character
being more aggressive than her character in WONDER WOMAN. She wanted to
make the character flow from one movie to the next".

Gadot and Jenkins allegedly "went to battle" against Whedon, resulting in a
meeting with then-Warner Bros Entertainment CEO Kevin Tsujihara. Gadot said
in a statement to THR: "I had my issues with [Whedon] and Warner Bros.
handled it in a timely manner." IndieWire has reached out to
representatives for Whedon, Gadot, and Warner Bros. for further comment.

The Fisher profile also includes new details about the Cyborg actor's
battles with Whedon and Warner Bros. executives. One point of contention
between Fisher and executive Geoff Johns was over Cyborg's physical
appearance, with Johns allegedly telling Fisher to "play the character less
like Frankenstein and more like the kindhearted Quasimodo". The infamous
Cyborg line "booyah" in the Whedon cut was also allegedly a source of some
tension.

Per THR: "Fisher says that Johns had approached [original JUSTICE LEAGUE
director Zack] Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't
want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some
signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the
entire studio believed the booyah line was 'a fun moment of synergy'."

Fisher told THR that including the catchphrase in the live-action JUSTICE
LEAGUE recalled "black characters in pop culture with defining phrases:
Gary Coleman's 'Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?'; Jimmie Walker's
'Dy-no-mite!'" Fisher noted that no one else in JUSTICE LEAGUE had a
catchphrase and that "it seemed weird to have the only Black character say
that".

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joss-whedon-reportedly-threatened-harm-140046267.html
FPP
2021-04-07 01:11:39 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
Isn't it though. But, by your own citation, that wasn't the only thing
she was concerned about.

"THR reports that, per "a knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple
concerns with the revised version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE."

Nothing says Gadot wasn't really concerned about being too aggressive.
It just says she didn't like Whedon's decisions.

And seeing the finished product, she sure as shit was right about the
Craptacular Crapfest the studio released.

Clearly, all the studio cared about was the running time.
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2021-04-07 01:21:21 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
Isn't it though.  But, by your own citation, that wasn't the only thing
she was concerned about.
"THR reports that, per "a knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple
concerns with the revised version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE."
Nothing says Gadot wasn't really concerned about being too aggressive.
It just says she didn't like Whedon's decisions.
And seeing the finished product, she sure as shit was right about the
Craptacular Crapfest the studio released.
Clearly, all the studio cared about was the running time.
"Speak of the Devil, and you see his horns."

Just saw this in Salon, after the post - released today.
Whedon allegedly threatened to harm Gal Gadot's career.
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According to a witness on the production who later spoke to the investigators, Gadot had concerns about how her character was written in "Justice League" as she felt like the character was "more aggressive" than she had been in Patty Jenkins' "Wonder Woman" and she wanted to feel like there was continuity between the representations.
Gadot clashed with Whedon, who threatened to harm Gadot's career and criticized Jenkins. Afterwards, the witness said, "Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her look incredibly stupid in this movie."
And a whole host of other shit we hadn't heard before... if only half
is true, Whedon looks like a real dick. And it appears that it wasn't
confined to just Whedon.

https://www.salon.com/2021/04/06/ray-fisher-justice-league-joss-whedon-geoff-johns/
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anim8rfsk
2021-04-07 01:33:04 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
-----------------------
Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher’s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.
The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.
The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."
So she was lying when she said he threatened to hurt her career.

It sounds like both Gadot and Fisher are willfully ignorant of the famous
Spencer Tracy quote

“Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture.”

That’s probably exactly what Whedon said to them.

The article I read quoted Fisher as claiming racism because they wouldn’t
listen to his creative input.

“Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture.”
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One source also told the outlet that Gadot had “issues about her character
being more aggressive than her character in WONDER WOMAN. She wanted to
make the character flow from one movie to the next".
Gadot and Jenkins allegedly "went to battle" against Whedon, resulting in a
meeting with then-Warner Bros Entertainment CEO Kevin Tsujihara. Gadot said
in a statement to THR: "I had my issues with [Whedon] and Warner Bros.
handled it in a timely manner." IndieWire has reached out to
representatives for Whedon, Gadot, and Warner Bros. for further comment.
The Fisher profile also includes new details about the Cyborg actor's
battles with Whedon and Warner Bros. executives. One point of contention
between Fisher and executive Geoff Johns was over Cyborg's physical
appearance, with Johns allegedly telling Fisher to "play the character less
like Frankenstein and more like the kindhearted Quasimodo". The infamous
Cyborg line "booyah" in the Whedon cut was also allegedly a source of some
tension.
Per THR: "Fisher says that Johns had approached [original JUSTICE LEAGUE
director Zack] Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't
want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some
signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the
entire studio believed the booyah line was 'a fun moment of synergy'."
Fisher told THR that including the catchphrase in the live-action JUSTICE
Gary Coleman's 'Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?'; Jimmie Walker's
'Dy-no-mite!'" Fisher noted that no one else in JUSTICE LEAGUE had a
catchphrase and that "it seemed weird to have the only Black character say
that".
Because no white actor has ever had a catchphrase.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joss-whedon-reportedly-threatened-harm-140046267.html
So who said booyah first, cyborg or Ron Stoppable?


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2021-04-07 03:58:41 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
-----------------------
Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher’s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.
The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.
The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."
So she was lying when she said he threatened to hurt her career.
It sounds like both Gadot and Fisher are willfully ignorant of the famous
Spencer Tracy quote "Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
That's probably exactly what Whedon said to them.
The article I read quoted Fisher as claiming racism because they wouldn't
listen to his creative input.
"Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
Yeah, it sounds like we've crossed over from actual harassment to people
whose job it is to show up and act, but who think they're so important,
they should get to tell everyone else how to do their jobs, too. And
when they're told to stay in their lane, it becomes "muh racism!" and
"muh misogyny!"
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2021-04-07 04:35:14 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
-----------------------
Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher’s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.
The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.
The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."
So she was lying when she said he threatened to hurt her career.
It sounds like both Gadot and Fisher are willfully ignorant of the famous
Spencer Tracy quote "Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
That's probably exactly what Whedon said to them.
The article I read quoted Fisher as claiming racism because they wouldn't
listen to his creative input.
"Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
Yeah, it sounds like we've crossed over from actual harassment to people
whose job it is to show up and act, but who think they're so important,
they should get to tell everyone else how to do their jobs, too. And
when they're told to stay in their lane, it becomes "muh racism!" and
"muh misogyny!"
That’s definitely the case for Fisher. He doesn’t like the script, he
doesn’t like the costume, he doesn’t like the catchphrase. He shouldn’t
have taken the job. And then when they won’t let him change everything mid
shoot he screams racism.


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2021-04-07 19:05:01 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
-----------------------
Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher¹s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.
The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.
The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."
So she was lying when she said he threatened to hurt her career.
It sounds like both Gadot and Fisher are willfully ignorant of the famous
Spencer Tracy quote "Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
That's probably exactly what Whedon said to them.
The article I read quoted Fisher as claiming racism because they wouldn't
listen to his creative input.
"Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
Yeah, it sounds like we've crossed over from actual harassment to people
whose job it is to show up and act, but who think they're so important,
they should get to tell everyone else how to do their jobs, too. And
when they're told to stay in their lane, it becomes "muh racism!" and
"muh misogyny!"
That¹s definitely the case for Fisher. He doesn¹t like the script, he
doesn¹t like the costume, he doesn¹t like the catchphrase. He shouldn¹t
have taken the job. And then when they won¹t let him change everything mid
shoot he screams racism.
He isn't coming off very well.

I remember Jon Favreau a long time ago saying something along the lines
of "There's the script, the director, and your co-star. You can take a
chance on one but not two, and especially never on all three." He was
sitting next to Alec Baldwin on a panel when he said that, and Alec sat
up straight and said, "Where were you when I needed you twenty years
ago?"
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2021-04-08 00:23:27 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
-----------------------
Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher¹s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.
The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.
The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."
So she was lying when she said he threatened to hurt her career.
It sounds like both Gadot and Fisher are willfully ignorant of the famous
Spencer Tracy quote "Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
That's probably exactly what Whedon said to them.
The article I read quoted Fisher as claiming racism because they wouldn't
listen to his creative input.
"Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
Yeah, it sounds like we've crossed over from actual harassment to people
whose job it is to show up and act, but who think they're so important,
they should get to tell everyone else how to do their jobs, too. And
when they're told to stay in their lane, it becomes "muh racism!" and
"muh misogyny!"
That¹s definitely the case for Fisher. He doesn¹t like the script, he
doesn¹t like the costume, he doesn¹t like the catchphrase. He shouldn¹t
have taken the job. And then when they won¹t let him change everything mid
shoot he screams racism.
He isn't coming off very well.
I remember Jon Favreau a long time ago saying something along the lines
of "There's the script, the director, and your co-star. You can take a
chance on one but not two, and especially never on all three." He was
sitting next to Alec Baldwin on a panel when he said that, and Alec sat
up straight and said, "Where were you when I needed you twenty years
ago?"
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2021-04-07 11:49:19 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
-----------------------
Over the last year, JUSTICE LEAGUE star Ray Fisher has used social media to
speak out against both the film's reshoot director Joss Whedon and Warner
Bros. executives, but he's now given his first full sit-down interview on
the matter with The Hollywood Reporter. Included in the lengthy Fisher
profile are details expanding on the allegedly fraught relationship between
Whedon and Fisher’s JUSTICE LEAGUE co-star Gal Gadot.
The WONDER WOMAN actress said in December 2020 that her experience with
Whedon was "not the best one", and now THR reports that, per "a
knowledgable source", Gadot "had multiple concerns with the revised
version" of JUSTICE LEAGUE.
The THR report claims that sources shared that "the biggest clash came when
Whedon pushed Gadot to record lines she didn't like, threatened to harm
Gadot's career and disparaged WONDER WOMAN director Patty Jenkins. While
Fisher declines to discuss any of what transpired with Gadot, a witness on
the production who later spoke to investigators says that after one clash,
"Joss was bragging that he's had it out with Gal. He told her he's the
writer and she's going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her
look incredibly stupid in this movie."
So she was lying when she said he threatened to hurt her career.
It sounds like both Gadot and Fisher are willfully ignorant of the famous
Spencer Tracy quote "Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
That's probably exactly what Whedon said to them.
The article I read quoted Fisher as claiming racism because they wouldn't
listen to his creative input.
"Know your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
Yeah, it sounds like we've crossed over from actual harassment to people
whose job it is to show up and act, but who think they're so important,
they should get to tell everyone else how to do their jobs, too. And
when they're told to stay in their lane, it becomes "muh racism!" and
"muh misogyny!"
Sure. Just ignore what was posted yesterday... how else can you be
right if you don't?
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2021-04-07 01:41:16 UTC
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Per THR: "Fisher says that Johns had approached [original JUSTICE LEAGUE
director Zack] Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't
want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some
signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the
entire studio believed the booyah line was 'a fun moment of synergy'."
IIRC Cyborg in the animated Teen Titans series says "booyah!" all the
damn time.
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Per THR: "Fisher says that Johns had approached [original JUSTICE LEAGUE
director Zack] Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't
want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some
signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the
entire studio believed the booyah line was 'a fun moment of synergy'."
IIRC Cyborg in the animated Teen Titans series says "booyah!" all the
damn time.
So... a cartoon?
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Per THR: "Fisher says that Johns had approached [original JUSTICE LEAGUE
director Zack] Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't
want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some
signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the
entire studio believed the booyah line was 'a fun moment of synergy'."
IIRC Cyborg in the animated Teen Titans series says "booyah!" all the
damn time.
So... a cartoon?
Yes. From a comic book.

Apparently the live-action film is drama on a Shakespearian level,
which is why Cyborg can't say "booyah!" there.
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2021-04-07 21:28:00 UTC
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So... a cartoon?
Yes. From a comic book.
Apparently the live-action film is drama on a Shakespearian level,
which is why Cyborg can't say "booyah!" there.
I’ll agree with the actor that the “booyah!” line is cheesy but the
Snyder cut had almost no levity except for a couple of lame lines
from the Flash (though the Whedon cut had too much and was
stupid).
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Per THR: "Fisher says that Johns had approached [original JUSTICE LEAGUE
director Zack] Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't
want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some
signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the
entire studio believed the booyah line was 'a fun moment of synergy'."
IIRC Cyborg in the animated Teen Titans series says "booyah!" all the
damn time.
So... a cartoon?
Yes. From a comic book.
Apparently the live-action film is drama on a Shakespearian level,
which is why Cyborg can't say "booyah!" there.
It's a fucking cartoon.
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One source also told the outlet that Gadot had "issues about her character
being more aggressive than her character in WONDER WOMAN.
Saw a panel from one of the newer Wonder Woman comic books and she straight-up
twists a guy’s head around, breaking his neck and killing him and in the movie, (both
the Snyder cut and the Whedon cut) she “blasts” that terrorist right thru a stone wall,
obviously killing him (and needlessly destroying half the building…)

I would have thought she’d WANT her character to be a bad ass?
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2021-04-07 22:28:55 UTC
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One source also told the outlet that Gadot had "issues about her character
being more aggressive than her character in WONDER WOMAN.
Saw a panel from one of the newer Wonder Woman comic books and she straight-up
twists a guy’s head around, breaking his neck and killing him
She did. Yes. But she didn't do it lightly. She did it as a last
resort.

and in the movie, (both
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the Snyder cut and the Whedon cut) she “blasts” that terrorist right thru a stone wall,
obviously killing him (and needlessly destroying half the building…)
I would have thought she’d WANT her character to be a bad ass?
Wonder Woman being a casually gratuitous killer totally goes against the
values established for the character in her movie.
Alan Smithee
2021-04-08 03:22:54 UTC
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Fisher told THR that including the catchphrase in the live-action JUSTICE
Gary Coleman's 'Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?'; Jimmie Walker's
'Dy-no-mite!'" Fisher noted that no one else in JUSTICE LEAGUE had a
catchphrase and that "it seemed weird to have the only Black character say
that".
Great Hera!
Adam H. Kerman
2021-04-08 04:27:09 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
I read through it and, while Whedon sounds rude, the script is the
script and the actor is the actor and the latter is hired to perform the
former.

The only point I'm sympathetic on is, What the fuck is an executive
doing giving acting direction to Ray Fisher? He's not the director and
he should never order an actor to perform a certain way.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joss-whedon-reportedly-threatened-harm-140046267.html
anim8rfsk
2021-04-08 05:54:09 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
I read through it and, while Whedon sounds rude, the script is the
script and the actor is the actor and the latter is hired to perform the
former.
Absolutely.
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The only point I'm sympathetic on is, What the fuck is an executive
doing giving acting direction to Ray Fisher? He's not the director and
he should never order an actor to perform a certain way.
Johns is a Comics guy and I assume acting in some sort of consultant role.
It’s unclear who went to who but it sounds like Fisher went to Johns. And
again Fisher is absolutely and completely wrong. If Johns says jump, Fisher
says “how high?”
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joss-whedon-reportedly-threatened-harm-140046267.html

“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
Adam H. Kerman
2021-04-08 13:39:28 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
I read through it and, while Whedon sounds rude, the script is the
script and the actor is the actor and the latter is hired to perform the
former.
Absolutely.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
The only point I'm sympathetic on is, What the fuck is an executive
doing giving acting direction to Ray Fisher? He's not the director and
he should never order an actor to perform a certain way.
Johns is a Comics guy and I assume acting in some sort of consultant role.
It's unclear who went to who but it sounds like Fisher went to Johns. And
again Fisher is absolutely and completely wrong. If Johns says jump, Fisher
says "how high?"
I'm not going to agree with this. He'd have to say something to the
director, who then directs the actor. You can't have two people calling
the performance.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joss-whedon-reportedly-threatened-harm-140046267.html
anim8rfsk
2021-04-08 15:00:07 UTC
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If Gadot was really concerned about Wonder Woman being too aggressive in
this movie compared to her standalone flick, it's ironic that when all was
said and done, she's actually a lot more vicious in the Snyder version than
in the Whedon version
I read through it and, while Whedon sounds rude, the script is the
script and the actor is the actor and the latter is hired to perform the
former.
Absolutely.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
The only point I'm sympathetic on is, What the fuck is an executive
doing giving acting direction to Ray Fisher? He's not the director and
he should never order an actor to perform a certain way.
Johns is a Comics guy and I assume acting in some sort of consultant role.
It's unclear who went to who but it sounds like Fisher went to Johns. And
again Fisher is absolutely and completely wrong. If Johns says jump, Fisher
says "how high?"
I'm not going to agree with this. He'd have to say something to the
director, who then directs the actor. You can't have two people calling
the performance.
I was going to finish that sentence with “as long as it doesn’t conflict
with Whedon”
I left it off because from what I can tell Johns was saying “shut up, know
your lines, and do what Joss tells you”
Which Fisher is categorizing as racist.



“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
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