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10 Heinous Lies About Kyle Rittenhouse Debunked
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BTR1701
2021-11-22 20:50:19 UTC
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Of all the willful lies and omissions in the media's coverage of the Steele
dossier, Brian Sicknick, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, the Wuhan lab,
Hunter Biden’s laptop and so on, nothing beats the evil propaganda peddled
about Kyle Rittenhouse.
They try to make the Rittenhouse case about race, but it's about class,
punching down at the white working-class son of a single mother because they
don't see him as fully human, and it makes them feel good.
They lie about him because they can.
The central media narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist
whose mother drove him across state lines with an AR-15 to shoot Black Lives
Matter protesters. All lies.
"A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving Blue Lives Matter social media
partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another wit
the intent to shoot people," was typical from John Heilemann, MSNBC's
national affairs analyst.
1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-
defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.
2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill.,
with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle,
cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard i
Kenosha and
worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a
local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who
had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the
property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police
abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since
the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medi
Gaige
Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head befor
he was shot in the arm.
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of
"terrorist tourism". False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend'
stepfather's house in Kenosha.
4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to
possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, whic
the
prosecution never should have brought.
5. Rittenhouse's mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy
Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 2
after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, sh
told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when
she woke up.
You mean Hutt has been bald-faced lying all week every time he's sai
Rittenhouse's mother drove him to Wisconsin?

You mean he was *already in* Wisconsin working a legitimate job all day befor
the riot occurred? And that his gun was never in Illinois and never crossed
state line?

Wow, you'd never know that from the lying media and the lying Hutts and Pig
of the world.
6. He was an "active shooter" who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble
"A 7-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters," said
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, "who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and
started shooting people up." On Friday, after evidence in court already had
debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a "self-appointe
militia member... unloading 60 rounds." When the defense called out the li
in
closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was
"embarrassed" for the lawyer.
7. Rittenhouse is a "white supremacist", as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled
him in a tweet showing the teenager's photograph. When White House press
secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed
Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a "vigilante".
In one story, the Intercept used the term "white supremacist" 16 times. The
accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured
Kyle's phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court
heard. All they saw were pro-police, "Blue Lives Matter" posts from a kid who
had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or
paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for
the media to brand him a white supremacist.
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th
birthday
last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults,
which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar,
who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the okay sign with
his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist
sign
comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep
falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for
the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.
9. He wore surgical gloves "to cover his fingerprints". This pearl was spread
by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he
was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly
hiding.
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a "Trumpy" racist biased toward the defense.
This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term
"victim"-- common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a
lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain
crisis, and his phone's ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump
rallies.
Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the
Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor.
Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his "highly
unusual" decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at
the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his
fate. It's something this judge always does, he told the court.
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did they
become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%

If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
moviePig
2021-11-22 21:23:50 UTC
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Of all the willful lies and omissions in the media's coverage of the Steele
dossier, Brian Sicknick, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, the Wuhan lab,
Hunter Biden’s laptop and so on, nothing beats the evil propaganda peddled
about Kyle Rittenhouse.
They try to make the Rittenhouse case about race, but it's about class,
punching down at the white working-class son of a single mother because they
don't see him as fully human, and it makes them feel good.
They lie about him because they can.
The central media narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist
whose mother drove him across state lines with an AR-15 to shoot Black Lives
Matter protesters. All lies.
"A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving Blue Lives Matter social media
partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another with
the intent to shoot people," was typical from John Heilemann, MSNBC's
national affairs analyst.
1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-
defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.
2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill.,
with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle,
cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in
Kenosha and
worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a
local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who
had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the
property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police
abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since
the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic
Gaige
Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head before
he was shot in the arm.
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of
"terrorist tourism". False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend's
stepfather's house in Kenosha.
4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to
possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, which
the
prosecution never should have brought.
5. Rittenhouse's mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy
Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25
after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she
told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when
she woke up.
You mean Hutt has been bald-faced lying all week every time he's said
Rittenhouse's mother drove him to Wisconsin?
You mean he was *already in* Wisconsin working a legitimate job all day before
the riot occurred? And that his gun was never in Illinois and never crossed a
state line?
Wow, you'd never know that from the lying media and the lying Hutts and Pigs
of the world.
6. He was an "active shooter" who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble.
"A 7-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters," said
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, "who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and
started shooting people up." On Friday, after evidence in court already had
debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a "self-appointed
militia member... unloading 60 rounds." When the defense called out the lie
in
closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was
"embarrassed" for the lawyer.
7. Rittenhouse is a "white supremacist", as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled
him in a tweet showing the teenager's photograph. When White House press
secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed
Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a "vigilante".
In one story, the Intercept used the term "white supremacist" 16 times. The
accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured
Kyle's phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court
heard. All they saw were pro-police, "Blue Lives Matter" posts from a kid who
had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or
paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for
the media to brand him a white supremacist.
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th
birthday
last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults,
which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar,
who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the okay sign with
his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist
sign
comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep
falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for
the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.
9. He wore surgical gloves "to cover his fingerprints". This pearl was spread
by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he
was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly
hiding.
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a "Trumpy" racist biased toward the defense.
This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term
"victim"-- common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a
lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain
crisis, and his phone's ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump
rallies.
Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the
Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor.
Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his "highly
unusual" decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at
the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his
fate. It's something this judge always does, he told the court.
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did they
become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
impartiality, The NYPost, only led me to this:

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
BTR1701
2021-11-22 22:16:47 UTC
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Of all the willful lies and omissions in the media's coverage of the Steele
dossier, Brian Sicknick, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, the Wuhan lab,
Hunter Biden’s laptop and so on, nothing beats the evil propaganda peddled
about Kyle Rittenhouse.
They try to make the Rittenhouse case about race, but it's about class,
punching down at the white working-class son of a single mother because they
don't see him as fully human, and it makes them feel good.
They lie about him because they can.
The central media narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist
whose mother drove him across state lines with an AR-15 to shoot Black Lives
Matter protesters. All lies.
"A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving Blue Lives Matter social media
partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to anothe
with
the intent to shoot people," was typical from John Heilemann, MSNBC's
national affairs analyst.
1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-
defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.
2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill.,
with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle,
cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in
Kenosha and
worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a
local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who
had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the
property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police
abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since
the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic
Gaige
Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his hea
before
he was shot in the arm.
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of
"terrorist tourism". False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his bes
friend's
stepfather's house in Kenosha.
4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to
possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge
which
the
prosecution never should have brought.
5. Rittenhouse's mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy
Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug
25
after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch
she
told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when
she woke up.
You mean Hutt has been bald-faced lying all week every time he's said
Rittenhouse's mother drove him to Wisconsin?
You mean he was *already in* Wisconsin working a legitimate job all da
before
the riot occurred? And that his gun was never in Illinois and never crosse
a
state line?
Wow, you'd never know that from the lying media and the lying Hutts and Pigs
of the world.
6. He was an "active shooter" who took his gun to a riot looking fo
trouble.
"A 7-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters," said
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, "who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and
started shooting people up." On Friday, after evidence in court already had
debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse
"self-appointed
militia member... unloading 60 rounds." When the defense called out the lie
in
closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was
"embarrassed" for the lawyer.
7. Rittenhouse is a "white supremacist", as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled
him in a tweet showing the teenager's photograph. When White House press
secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed
Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a "vigilante".
In one story, the Intercept used the term "white supremacist" 16 times. The
accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured
Kyle's phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court
heard. All they saw were pro-police, "Blue Lives Matter" posts from a kid who
had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or
paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for
the media to brand him a white supremacist.
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th
birthday
last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults,
which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar,
who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the okay sign with
his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist
sign
comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep
falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for
the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.
9. He wore surgical gloves "to cover his fingerprints". This pearl was spread
by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he
was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly
hiding.
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a "Trumpy" racist biased toward the defense.
This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term
"victim"-- common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a
lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain
crisis, and his phone's ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump
rallies.
Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the
Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor.
Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his "highly
unusual" decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at
the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his
fate. It's something this judge always does, he told the court.
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did they
become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616

moviePig
2021-11-22 23:09:02 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Of all the willful lies and omissions in the media's coverage of the Steele
dossier, Brian Sicknick, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, the Wuhan lab,
Hunter Biden’s laptop and so on, nothing beats the evil propaganda peddled
about Kyle Rittenhouse.
They try to make the Rittenhouse case about race, but it's about class,
punching down at the white working-class son of a single mother because they
don't see him as fully human, and it makes them feel good.
They lie about him because they can.
The central media narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist
whose mother drove him across state lines with an AR-15 to shoot Black Lives
Matter protesters. All lies.
"A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving Blue Lives Matter social media
partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another with
the intent to shoot people," was typical from John Heilemann, MSNBC's
national affairs analyst.
1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-
defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.
2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill.,
with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle,
cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in
Kenosha and
worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a
local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who
had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the
property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police
abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since
the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic
Gaige
Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head before
he was shot in the arm.
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of
"terrorist tourism". False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend's
stepfather's house in Kenosha.
4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to
possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, which
the
prosecution never should have brought.
5. Rittenhouse's mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy
Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25
after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she
told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when
she woke up.
You mean Hutt has been bald-faced lying all week every time he's said
Rittenhouse's mother drove him to Wisconsin?
You mean he was *already in* Wisconsin working a legitimate job all day before
the riot occurred? And that his gun was never in Illinois and never crossed a
state line?
Wow, you'd never know that from the lying media and the lying Hutts and Pigs
of the world.
6. He was an "active shooter" who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble.
"A 7-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters," said
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, "who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and
started shooting people up." On Friday, after evidence in court already had
debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a "self-appointed
militia member... unloading 60 rounds." When the defense called out the lie
in
closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was
"embarrassed" for the lawyer.
7. Rittenhouse is a "white supremacist", as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled
him in a tweet showing the teenager's photograph. When White House press
secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed
Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a "vigilante".
In one story, the Intercept used the term "white supremacist" 16 times. The
accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured
Kyle's phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court
heard. All they saw were pro-police, "Blue Lives Matter" posts from a kid who
had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or
paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for
the media to brand him a white supremacist.
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th
birthday
last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults,
which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar,
who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the okay sign with
his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist
sign
comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep
falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for
the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.
9. He wore surgical gloves "to cover his fingerprints". This pearl was spread
by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he
was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly
hiding.
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a "Trumpy" racist biased toward the defense.
This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term
"victim"-- common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a
lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain
crisis, and his phone's ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump
rallies.
Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the
Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor.
Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his "highly
unusual" decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at
the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his
fate. It's something this judge always does, he told the court.
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did they
become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
BTR1701
2021-11-23 02:16:24 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."

Lie.

"He crossed state lines to shoot people."

Lie.

"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle an
drove to a different state to shoot people."

Three lies in one sentence.

"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."

Lie.

"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."

Lie.

"Running around, shooting wildly."

Lie.

"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."

Lie.

"This is white privilege on steroids."

Lie.



"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BL
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."

Lie.

"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killin
protesters."

Lie.

And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a whit
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.

Lie.

Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middl
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislatio
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the ric
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sander
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.

And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.

Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied abou
Rittenhouse, too.
moviePig
2021-11-23 03:42:50 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.

So, I Googled your last one:

----------------
Biden, who said he had not watched the trial, last year in a tweet
from his account included Rittenhouse’s image in a montage of photos and
video to blast then-President Donald Trump for refusing “to disavow
white supremacists on the debate stage.” -CNBC
----------------

Thus, I'm still waiting for the alleged hard lies by major news outlets.
BTR1701
2021-11-23 05:41:36 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge raile
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidenc
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to the
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifl
and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promise
I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
trotsky
2021-11-23 06:34:06 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
And there it is, it's in a "link" therefore it's not shit. Who the fuck
thinks like that? Right wing assholes.
Ubiquitous
2021-11-23 12:44:57 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
And there it is, it's in a "link" therefore it's not shit. Who the fuck
thinks like that? Right wing assholes.
In other words, you are unable to produce a counter-argument.

Ad hominem noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

--
Let's go Brandon!
BTR1701
2021-11-24 03:09:23 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved abou
attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became
killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple o
people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on th
middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama
promised
I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
And there it is, it's in a "link" therefore it's not shit. Who the fuck
thinks like that? Right wing assholes.
You lunatics on the hard left are making "right winger" synonymous with
"decent human being" at an increasingly rapid rate. I'm pretty sure that's not
what you mean to do, but you're doing it nevertheless.
moviePig
2021-11-24 04:13:22 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about
attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle
and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama
promised
I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
And there it is, it's in a "link" therefore it's not shit. Who the fuck
thinks like that? Right wing assholes.
You lunatics on the hard left are making "right winger" synonymous with
"decent human being" at an increasingly rapid rate. I'm pretty sure that's not
what you mean to do, but you're doing it nevertheless.
The purity of Rittenhouse's heart (which, indeed, we'd hope persists in
many 17-year-olds) doesn't make his immature initial response a mature
one. Stop trying to make him the reincarnation of Mother Teresa...
The Horny Goat
2021-11-24 21:18:17 UTC
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The purity of Rittenhouse's heart (which, indeed, we'd hope persists in
many 17-year-olds) doesn't make his immature initial response a mature
one. Stop trying to make him the reincarnation of Mother Teresa...
When I first heard about this case several months back my immediate
reaction was "silly twat!"

Now in fairness that probably describes the majority of 17 year old
boys. I remember what I was interested in in those days and compared
to what I know now that's not unfair.

Most of us grow out of it and turn into reasonable human beings.

There ARE going to be tragedies along the way - 2 months after my high
school graduation 3 of 4 kids in a DUI related car crossing a major
bridge in our area. (Mercifully the driver was one of the victims -
that would be one helluva thing to carry through life at that age. I'm
sad it had to happen at all but it galvanized those of my grad class I
was in touch with and not a single one of them was unshaken)

But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
Likely that applies to further education - I cannot imagine being on a
college admission board encountering his resume knowing that if you
say yes you'll also be taking on national level scrutiny.
The Horny Goat
2021-11-24 23:23:16 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
Likely that applies to further education - I cannot imagine being on a
college admission board encountering his resume knowing that if you
say yes you'll also be taking on national level scrutiny.
Well, he's about to undergo a love-bombing from a certain segment of the
public. Who knows how he'll emerge from it? I'd say it's better than
even money he'll eventually be running for office somewhere, with even
an outside chance it could be as pro gun-control...
I would be highly surprised by that scenario. And even more surprised
if he was elected. Not being properly deputized he's a vigilante and
generally speaking those don't do well with the electorate.

Now Clint Eastwood WAS elected but he basically had two roles - Dirty
Harry and his westerns. (Besides Dirty Harry Callahan was a properly
deputized police officer, not sure whether all his western roles were)

But then ever since the people of Minnesota elected Jesse the Body I
don't take anything for granted in US politics...

On a more serious note, even in a best case scenario do you seriously
think Rittenhouse could keep up his momentum till he reaches the
minimum age of 25 (House of Reps) or 30 (Senate)?

That more than anything else makes me highly skeptical. A year from
now we'll probably be saying 'oh that kid from Wisconsin?' (forgetting
that he's not from Wisconsin)
moviePig
2021-11-24 23:50:33 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
Likely that applies to further education - I cannot imagine being on a
college admission board encountering his resume knowing that if you
say yes you'll also be taking on national level scrutiny.
Well, he's about to undergo a love-bombing from a certain segment of the
public. Who knows how he'll emerge from it? I'd say it's better than
even money he'll eventually be running for office somewhere, with even
an outside chance it could be as pro gun-control...
I would be highly surprised by that scenario. And even more surprised
if he was elected. Not being properly deputized he's a vigilante and
generally speaking those don't do well with the electorate.
Now Clint Eastwood WAS elected but he basically had two roles - Dirty
Harry and his westerns. (Besides Dirty Harry Callahan was a properly
deputized police officer, not sure whether all his western roles were)
But then ever since the people of Minnesota elected Jesse the Body I
don't take anything for granted in US politics...
On a more serious note, even in a best case scenario do you seriously
think Rittenhouse could keep up his momentum till he reaches the
minimum age of 25 (House of Reps) or 30 (Senate)?
That more than anything else makes me highly skeptical. A year from
now we'll probably be saying 'oh that kid from Wisconsin?' (forgetting
that he's not from Wisconsin)
He'll always have name-recognition value, even if we have to Google him.
The Horny Goat
2021-11-25 01:25:00 UTC
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That more than anything else makes me highly skeptical. A year from
now we'll probably be saying 'oh that kid from Wisconsin?' (forgetting
that he's not from Wisconsin)
He'll always have name-recognition value, even if we have to Google him.
Fair enough but he needs to work to pay the bills.

Leni Riefenstahl was 43 and a notable director in her day - but she
was unemployable after 1945 and lived to be 101 years old. She has a
grand total of one credit after 1945 so however she supported herself
it wasn't in film. She had lots of name recognition too and unlike
Rittenhouse she didn't kill anybody - just served a murderous regime.
moviePig
2021-11-25 03:41:28 UTC
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That more than anything else makes me highly skeptical. A year from
now we'll probably be saying 'oh that kid from Wisconsin?' (forgetting
that he's not from Wisconsin)
He'll always have name-recognition value, even if we have to Google him.
Fair enough but he needs to work to pay the bills.
Leni Riefenstahl was 43 and a notable director in her day - but she
was unemployable after 1945 and lived to be 101 years old. She has a
grand total of one credit after 1945 so however she supported herself
it wasn't in film. She had lots of name recognition too and unlike
Rittenhouse she didn't kill anybody - just served a murderous regime.
Leni's side lost, but Kyle's side is never worse than dormant. Right
now, I expect he's got some equivalent of "appearance money" to reap.
moviePig
2021-12-06 17:46:28 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
BTR1701
2021-12-06 18:02:43 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
Adam H. Kerman
2021-12-06 18:57:21 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
You missed the day that you would have been taught public perecption is
a higher law than equal protection? Re-read the 14 1/2 amendment.
BTR1701
2021-12-06 19:05:39 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
You missed the day that you would have been taught public perecption is
a higher law than equal protection? Re-read the 14 1/2 amendment.
Pig seems to be an expert on Amendment 14.5

Doesn't that qualify him as a domestic extremist?
The Horny Goat
2021-12-06 23:47:36 UTC
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You missed the day that you would have been taught public perecption is
a higher law than equal protection? Re-read the 14 1/2 amendment.
Pig seems to be an expert on Amendment 14.5
OK there's clearly an inside joke here I don't get.

I know what the 14th amendment is and sorta know the 15th (but less
clearly)....
moviePig
2021-12-07 00:18:38 UTC
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You missed the day that you would have been taught public perecption is
a higher law than equal protection? Re-read the 14 1/2 amendment.
Pig seems to be an expert on Amendment 14.5
OK there's clearly an inside joke here I don't get.
I know what the 14th amendment is and sorta know the 15th (but less
clearly)....
Odds are, you're better off on the outside, looking in...
trotsky
2021-12-06 19:37:32 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
There's any number of reasons why the potential employer wouldn't hire
him so the burden of proof would be pretty difficult, so I'm wondering
what the incredibly vague "legal problems" is supposed to mean here.
Are you phishing to be called an idiot per usual? For example, the
potential employer could say "I didn't hire Rittenhouse because he's a
fucking idiot" and any non-Trump judge would immediately dismiss the case.
A Friend
2021-12-06 20:51:12 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
There's any number of reasons why the potential employer wouldn't hire
him so the burden of proof would be pretty difficult, so I'm wondering
what the incredibly vague "legal problems" is supposed to mean here.
Are you phishing to be called an idiot per usual? For example, the
potential employer could say "I didn't hire Rittenhouse because he's a
fucking idiot" and any non-Trump judge would immediately dismiss the case.
Been there. All you have to do in such cases is say "We'll pass" and
say nothing -- and I mean nothing -- else. They can't touch you if you
stay quiet about your reasons, and that especially includes co-managers
and the like.
moviePig
2021-12-06 20:17:50 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
Unfortunately, saying it again adds little to saying it once.
BTR1701
2021-12-07 01:37:21 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
Unfortunately, saying it again adds little to saying it once.
What makes you think I was trying to add anything?
moviePig
2021-12-07 03:58:14 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
"As front-line public servants, it is our policy not to take on new
employees while their persona weighs heavily in the public's perception.
Thank you for your interest, and we hope you'll reconsider us soon."
As I said, legal problems.
Unfortunately, saying it again adds little to saying it once.
What makes you think I was trying to add anything?
Eternal, albeit forlorn, hope...
The Horny Goat
2021-12-06 18:47:34 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
Bonk.
A lawsuit waiting to happen line Rittenhouse? You've got to be kidding.
This is specifically why I was skeptical he still had a shot (no pun
intended!) at police work
trotsky
2021-12-06 19:52:51 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
Yes, and if they just say he's a fucking moron they're in for smooth
sailing. Glad we could clear that up.
Ed Stasiak
2021-12-06 22:21:56 UTC
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The Horny Goat
Likely that applies to further education - I cannot imagine being on a
college admission board encountering his resume knowing that if you
say yes you'll also be taking on national level scrutiny.
I bet Liberty University would be willing to give him a free ride if he
expressed interest and threw in a good word for "Christian values." If
he set up a GoFundMe for his tuition, it would probably overflow.
https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-state-university-student-organizations-042238166.html
November 30, 2021

Arizona State University student organizations are asking the college to ban Kyle Rittenhouse, who they said is 'a beacon for white supremacy'

ASU student organizations will protest Wednesday and ask the college to ban Kyle Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse was previously enrolled as an online non-degree-seeking student at ASU.

Following his acquittal, Rittenhouse said he wants to return to ASU to finish his degree in person.

On Wednesday, several student organizations at Arizona State University will hold a protest and ask the institution to ban Kyle Rittenhouse, who was previously enrolled in its online program prior to being acquitted two weeks ago of multiple homicide charges.

Members of Students for Socialism ASU, Students for Justice in Palestine, Mecha de ASU, and the Multicultural Solidarity Coalition created a list of demands asking the university to ban Rittenhouse, condemn white supremacy, and reinvest funds from campus police into student programs like the Multicultural Center.

"We're protesting because this is going to bring real consequences to our campus, or whichever campus he goes to, or wherever he goes. His trial has already brought a consequence in that, now, he set a precedent that allows people to kill protesters, even more than they had the right to do it before," said an SFS spokesperson, whose identity was confirmed by Insider.

The student organizations involved in the Rittenhouse protest have banded together before to protest issues like police violence, as well as visits from Immigration Customs and Enforcement officials, US Border Patrol officers, and former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

When SFS members discovered that Rittenhouse was listed in the online student directory, they began to organize and create their list of demands. ASU officials confirmed that Rittenhouse is not currently enrolled in any classes and did not have to go through admissions to enroll as an online non-degree-seeking student.

However, Rittenhouse said he dropped his two online classes at ASU because of the pressure of the trial but wants to pick them back up, complete them, and finish his degree in person on campus, according to WBTW.

An SFS spokesperson said that Rittenhouse's admission as a student would signal that white supremacy is welcome on campus, citing a barrage of racial slurs and anti-Semitic language used by his supporters in comments and messages directed to the protest's organizers.

"His whole base of supporters kind of proves by default that Kyle Rittenhouse is a beacon for white supremacy. He might say that he supports Black Lives Matter, but what does he have to show for it?" the spokesperson said.

Insider has reached out to ASU officials for comment, as well as to confirm when Rittenhouse applied to its online program and the date his application was approved.
moviePig
2021-12-06 22:43:18 UTC
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Micky DuPree
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The Horny Goat
Likely that applies to further education - I cannot imagine being on a
college admission board encountering his resume knowing that if you
say yes you'll also be taking on national level scrutiny.
I bet Liberty University would be willing to give him a free ride if he
expressed interest and threw in a good word for "Christian values." If
he set up a GoFundMe for his tuition, it would probably overflow.
https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-state-university-student-organizations-042238166.html
November 30, 2021
Arizona State University student organizations are asking the college to ban Kyle Rittenhouse, who they said is 'a beacon for white supremacy'
ASU student organizations will protest Wednesday and ask the college to ban Kyle Rittenhouse.
Rittenhouse was previously enrolled as an online non-degree-seeking student at ASU.
Following his acquittal, Rittenhouse said he wants to return to ASU to finish his degree in person.
On Wednesday, several student organizations at Arizona State University will hold a protest and ask the institution to ban Kyle Rittenhouse, who was previously enrolled in its online program prior to being acquitted two weeks ago of multiple homicide charges.
Members of Students for Socialism ASU, Students for Justice in Palestine, Mecha de ASU, and the Multicultural Solidarity Coalition created a list of demands asking the university to ban Rittenhouse, condemn white supremacy, and reinvest funds from campus police into student programs like the Multicultural Center.
"We're protesting because this is going to bring real consequences to our campus, or whichever campus he goes to, or wherever he goes. His trial has already brought a consequence in that, now, he set a precedent that allows people to kill protesters, even more than they had the right to do it before," said an SFS spokesperson, whose identity was confirmed by Insider.
The student organizations involved in the Rittenhouse protest have banded together before to protest issues like police violence, as well as visits from Immigration Customs and Enforcement officials, US Border Patrol officers, and former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
When SFS members discovered that Rittenhouse was listed in the online student directory, they began to organize and create their list of demands. ASU officials confirmed that Rittenhouse is not currently enrolled in any classes and did not have to go through admissions to enroll as an online non-degree-seeking student.
However, Rittenhouse said he dropped his two online classes at ASU because of the pressure of the trial but wants to pick them back up, complete them, and finish his degree in person on campus, according to WBTW.
An SFS spokesperson said that Rittenhouse's admission as a student would signal that white supremacy is welcome on campus, citing a barrage of racial slurs and anti-Semitic language used by his supporters in comments and messages directed to the protest's organizers.
"His whole base of supporters kind of proves by default that Kyle Rittenhouse is a beacon for white supremacy. He might say that he supports Black Lives Matter, but what does he have to show for it?" the spokesperson said.
Insider has reached out to ASU officials for comment, as well as to confirm when Rittenhouse applied to its online program and the date his application was approved.
Martyr-Building 101...
trotsky
2021-11-24 23:23:21 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about
attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle
and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama
promised
I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
And there it is, it's in a "link" therefore it's not shit. Who the fuck
thinks like that? Right wing assholes.
You lunatics on the hard left are making "right winger" synonymous with
"decent human being" at an increasingly rapid rate. I'm pretty sure that's not
what you mean to do, but you're doing it nevertheless.
YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, "RIGHT WING" OBVIOUSLY SHOULD BE SYNONYMOUS WITH
WORTHLESS FUCKING ASSHOLE. GLAD YOU AGREE.
Ubiquitous
2021-11-23 12:42:37 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about
attacks on his reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop
trials from being televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to the public, most would have just lapped up the
pablum presented to them by CNN and MSNBC and swallowed their
lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
Just like FPP, this is `pig's way of telling you he has lost the debate.

--
Let's go Brandon!
moviePig
2021-11-23 15:59:24 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
Nowadays, some talking head extemporizing his opinion isn't a newscast.
BTR1701
2021-11-23 17:16:21 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved abou
attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became
killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple o
people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on th
middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama
promised
I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
Nowadays, some talking head extemporizing his opinion isn't a newscast.
There were quite a few hosts and anchors in that lineup of lies, and when a
network keeps booking people who say these lies over and over again, and never
challenges them on their lies, then those lies are de facto endorsed by that
network.
Adam H. Kerman
2021-11-23 17:29:14 UTC
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I cut that fuckhead Ubi's crosspost to newsgroups he doesn't read.
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
. . .
Nowadays, some talking head extemporizing his opinion isn't a newscast.
There were quite a few hosts and anchors in that lineup of lies, and when a
network keeps booking people who say these lies over and over again, and never
challenges them on their lies, then those lies are de facto endorsed by that
network.
Let me put it so even moviePig can understand: "News" is exactly what
television, newspapers, and magazines say it is. If it's not covered,
it's not news. An expert opinion is someone who gets quoted in an
article or is a talking-head guest on television or interviewed on
radio. The news outlet has decided who has a following and chooses to
help the expert reach more people or expose his ideas to more people.

It's the responsibility of the news media which made those decisions.

Somehow moviePig forgot we just got a president elected because of
endless coverage on television, both news and entertainment, as he
grabbed viewers. That only happened in 2016 but that's too long ago to
recall. Similarly, Ronald Reagan was elected president in 1980 because
television made him a national figure with a trustworthy reputation.

Does moviePig truly fail to comprehend the power and influence of
television after all these decades?
Ubiquitous
2021-11-30 09:30:55 UTC
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I cut that fuckhead Ubi's crosspost to newsgroups he doesn't read.
TROLL-O-METER

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4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
Ed Stasiak
2021-11-23 23:27:40 UTC
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moviePig
BTR1701
There were quite a few hosts and anchors in that lineup of lies, and when a
network keeps booking people who say these lies over and over again, and
never challenges them on their lies, then those lies are de facto endorsed
by that network.
Your claim is that major news outlets were knowingly disseminating lies.
If you think interviewees were selected for specific views they held
-- rather than on, say, their viewer-appeal -- then I'd need to see more
proof of that than merely "how it seems to you". Again... we know who
the flagship names are at the cable news outfits, so quote *them*.
Every time with you people it's the same algorithm:
Act like it's not real.
Then:
Act like it is real but nobody's doing it.
Then:
Admit that it is real and people are doing it but it's not your side.
Then:
Admit that it is real and it's only people from your side doing it
but it's not everyone from your side.

This shit is getting old…
moviePig
2021-11-24 00:18:18 UTC
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moviePig
BTR1701
There were quite a few hosts and anchors in that lineup of lies, and when a
network keeps booking people who say these lies over and over again, and
never challenges them on their lies, then those lies are de facto endorsed
by that network.
Your claim is that major news outlets were knowingly disseminating lies.
If you think interviewees were selected for specific views they held
-- rather than on, say, their viewer-appeal -- then I'd need to see more
proof of that than merely "how it seems to you". Again... we know who
the flagship names are at the cable news outfits, so quote *them*.
Act like it's not real.
Act like it is real but nobody's doing it.
Admit that it is real and people are doing it but it's not your side.
Admit that it is real and it's only people from your side doing it
but it's not everyone from your side.
This shit is getting old…
I agree... though probably not on which is the shit.

There are historical instances where major news providers have
deliberately lied ...and they're important. Don't cry 'wolf'.
trotsky
2021-11-23 23:37:10 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed
against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about
attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them
by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle
and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama
promised
I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
All of them were in the clip I linked to.
Nowadays, some talking head extemporizing his opinion isn't a newscast.
There were quite a few hosts and anchors in that lineup of lies,
COULD YOU BE MORE VAGUE PLEASE YOU STUPID FUCKING BASTARD?
trotsky
2021-11-23 06:32:25 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
  On Nov 22, 2021 at 1:23:50 PM PST, "moviePig"
    On Nov 22, 2021 at 1:30:43 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
  On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge
railed against
  media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about
attacks on his
  reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials
from being
  televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
  Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for
themselves did
  they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media
coverage.
    This 1000%
    If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence
presented to
  the
    public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to
them by CNN
  and
    MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
  Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
       https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
  http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally.  The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted.  Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously.  Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
"He crossed state lines to shoot people."
Lie.
"A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and
drove to a different state to shoot people."
Three lies in one sentence.
"The vast majority of protests in Kenosha were peaceful."
Lie.
"The violence came from an outside Trump supporter."
Lie.
"Running around, shooting wildly."
Lie.
"Radicalized by Trumpism, he took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer."
Lie.
"This is white privilege on steroids."
Lie.
http://youtu.be/RmpyKZ4WdQM
"Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a BLM
protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people."
Lie.
"Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around shooting and killing
protesters."
Lie.
And then, of course, there's Joe Biden, who decried Rittenhouse as a white
supremacist during the campaign with no evidence for it whatsoever.
Lie.
Then again, Joe Biden is the guy who promised no tax increases on the middle
class and tax hikes on the rich, but whose "Build Back Better" legislation
does the exact opposite: raises taxes on the middle class and gives the rich
significant tax breaks. Even members of his own party-- like Comrade Sanders
and Occasional-Cortex-- have called him out on that bullshit.
And Joe Biden promised-- repeatedly, almost as many times as Obama promised I
could keep my doctor-- that he would not impose vaccine mandates on anyone.
Yet here we are, so I guess it's no surprise that Biden lied about
Rittenhouse, too.
Again, afaics, you've provided no direct links to the offending 'lies'.
----------------
   Biden, who said he had not watched the trial, last year in a tweet
from his account included Rittenhouse’s image in a montage of photos and
video to blast then-President Donald Trump for refusing “to disavow
white supremacists on the debate stage.” -CNBC
----------------
Thus, I'm still waiting for the alleged hard lies by major news outlets.
Don't expect Derpshit to come clean ever. But it doesn't hurt to make
the query I guess.
trotsky
2021-11-23 06:28:31 UTC
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On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against
media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his
reputation, rather than Kyle's. He threatened to stop trials from being
televised, but that's exactly the wrong solution.
Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did
they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage.
This 1000%
If the trial hadn't been televised and the *actual* evidence presented to the
public, most would have just lapped up the pablum presented to them by CNN
and
MSNBC and swallowed their lies completely.
Got a cite for, say, the worst of those "lies"? That bastion of
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1460369045325295616
http://youtu.be/6U5jf2RJC28
So, I got through more than half of it, by which point it seemed to have
settled into a we're-good-they're-bad pep rally. The only "lie" I saw
was CBS's well-known "Kyle said he murdered" tweet ...which, afaik, was
instantly seized upon and recanted. Specifically, I have yet to see any
examples of your wholesale defamatory "pablum" from the responsible
talking heads at CNN and MSNBC -- which I'd take seriously. Where's Don
Lemon, Jake Tapper, or Rachel Maddow pressing anti-Rittenhouse lies?
And why must the "evidence" come packaged as a FoxNews war dance?
"Rittenhouse is basically the same as a school shooter."
Lie.
That's an opinion, not a "lie." You've lost any shred of credibility
you've ever had. And it's funny how you keep spouting this white
supremacist Proud Boy mentality, but like everything else, lack the
fucking balls to admit it. You literally couldn't be a more disgusting
human being than the piece of shit you are now.
trotsky
2021-11-22 22:44:25 UTC
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5. Rittenhouse's mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy
Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25
after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she
told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when
she woke up.
You mean Hutt has been bald-faced lying all week every time he's said
Rittenhouse's mother drove him to Wisconsin?
You mean he was *already in* Wisconsin working a legitimate job all day before
the riot occurred? And that his gun was never in Illinois and never crossed a
state line?
Wow, you'd never know that from the lying media and the lying Hutts and Pigs
of the world.
WE'VE REACHED THE POINT WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH SHIT COMING OUT OF YOUR
CYBERMOUTH THAT ALL CAPS ARE NECESSARY. FIRST, HERE'S WHAT POLITIFACT SAYS:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/15/viral-image/kyle-rittenhouses-mother-did-not-bring-him-kenosha/

THEY MAKE CLICKBAIT BY SAYING IT "DIDN'T HAPPEN" BUT THEN THERE'S THIS:

There is no evidence that Wendy Rittenhouse, who has not been charged
with a crime, drove her son to Kenosha, and no evidence that Kyle
Rittenhouse was armed when he left their Illinois home.According to
court documents and testimony, Kyle Rittenhouse arrived in Kenosha on
his own and went to the protest with a friend who provided him with the
gun. The gun was kept at the home of the friend’s stepfather in Kenosha.

"NO EVIDENCE" MEANS IT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN, NOT THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN,
YOU'RE LYING AS USUAL. MOREOVER, HOW HE CAME TO COMMIT THE MURDERS IS
IMMATERIAL, HE STILL COMMITTED THEM. YOU ARE A L I A R AS USUAL.
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T HAVE THE B A L L S TO ADDRESS ME AS USUAL. HOPE
THIS HELPS.
The Horny Goat
2021-11-22 23:46:40 UTC
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8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th
birthday
last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults,
which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar,
who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the okay sign with
his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist
sign
What? A kid who on his birthday had just reached legal drinking age
chose to go to the bar in company with his parents for his first legal
brew?

Quelle Horror!

(When my eldest daughter came of age she was 2500 miles away at
school. When she came home for Christmas she made a point of telling
me that while back east she had had a few drinks. I said "Kid - you're
a university student now and university students have been known to
raise a pint or two. Between your training in our home and your innate
good sense I'm stone cold certain nobody is ever going to bring you
home blind drunk in a shopping cart!" (which was a reference to a
scene in Animal House which both of us ahd seen)

Frankly it's difficult to conceive of what if anything was on the mind
of a prosecutor who would raise this incident as part of a major
felony trial.

Show of hands here - how many of you celebrated your 'coming of legal
drinking age' with friends and/or family? Probably most of you right?
Adam H. Kerman
2021-11-23 00:11:02 UTC
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The Horny Goat <***@home.ca> wrote:

Ubi the fuckhead hid the URL of the article in his headers. It's

https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/10-debunked-heinous-lies-about-kyle-rittenhouse-devine/
Post by The Horny Goat
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his
18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother
and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies
with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was
pictured making the okay sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false
claim that this is a white supremacist sign
What? A kid who on his birthday had just reached legal drinking age
chose to go to the bar in company with his parents for his first legal
brew? . . .
Quelle Horror!
It's not illegal for him to be in a bar. The drinking age remains 21.
suzeeq
2021-11-23 01:30:32 UTC
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Ubi the fuckhead hid the URL of the article in his headers. It's
https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/10-debunked-heinous-lies-about-kyle-rittenhouse-devine/
Post by The Horny Goat
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his
18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother
and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies
with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was
pictured making the okay sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false
claim that this is a white supremacist sign
What? A kid who on his birthday had just reached legal drinking age
chose to go to the bar in company with his parents for his first legal
brew? . . .
Quelle Horror!
It's not illegal for him to be in a bar. The drinking age remains 21.
He's 18 so wouldn't that make it illegal?

I think the horror was expressed over him taking his first legal drink
with his parents.
Adam H. Kerman
2021-11-23 02:56:51 UTC
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Ubi the fuckhead hid the URL of the article in his headers. It's
https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/10-debunked-heinous-lies-about-kyle-rittenhouse-devine/
Post by The Horny Goat
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending three
months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his
18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother
and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies
with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was
pictured making the okay sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false
claim that this is a white supremacist sign
What? A kid who on his birthday had just reached legal drinking age
chose to go to the bar in company with his parents for his first legal
brew? . . .
Quelle Horror!
It's not illegal for him to be in a bar. The drinking age remains 21.
He's 18 so wouldn't that make it illegal?
I think the horror was expressed over him taking his first legal drink
with his parents.
He had parental supervision so I'm not seeing the horror. Maybe that's
legal in Wisconsin.
Ubiquitous
2021-11-23 12:48:17 UTC
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Ubi the fuckhead hid the URL of the article in his headers. It's
https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/10-debunked-heinous-lies-about-kyle-rittenhouse-devine/
I thought you said you had me killfiled, liar.

--
Let's go Brandon!
Micky DuPree
2021-12-06 12:22:11 UTC
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[attribution lost]
8. He "flashed white power signs" with Proud Boys. After spending
three months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days
after his 18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer,
with his mother and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He
posed for selfies with strangers at the bar, who the media say are
Proud Boys, and was pictured making the okay sign with his thumb and
forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist sign
What? A kid who on his birthday had just reached legal drinking age
chose to go to the bar in company with his parents for his first legal
brew?
To the other claim, here's a history of the sign, how it started as
"OK," was used ironically to troll, and then lost its irony along the
way:

<https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gesture>

"Ironically, some white supremacists themselves soon also
participated in such trolling tactics, lending an actual
credence to those who labeled the trolling gesture as racist in
nature. By 2019, at least some white supremacists seem to have
abandoned the ironic or satiric intent behind the original
trolling campaign and used the symbol as a sincere expression
of white supremacy, such as when Australian white supremacist
Brenton Tarrant flashed the symbol during a March 2019
courtroom appearance soon after his arrest for allegedly
murdering 50 people in a shooting spree at mosques in
Christchurch, New Zealand."

-Micky
BTR1701
2021-12-06 19:09:35 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
Oh come on! How many applicants compared to the number of available
positions do you think the typical American police departments get?
If it's under 10:1 I'd be gobsmacked.
These days? With all the 'hate the police' rhetoric out there? Officers ar
retiring in droves and the departments are struggling for applicants t
replace them.

L.A Sheriffs and LAPD can't even fill full academy classes. My own little P
has put up a sign on PCH-- one of those flashing roadside signs they use fo
construction-- that says: "Redondo Beach PD now hiring, great benefits
signing bonus, apply at City Hall".
anim8rfsk
2021-12-06 19:37:40 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
Oh come on! How many applicants compared to the number of available
positions do you think the typical American police departments get?
If it's under 10:1 I'd be gobsmacked.
These days? With all the 'hate the police' rhetoric out there? Officers are
retiring in droves and the departments are struggling for applicants to
replace them.
L.A Sheriffs and LAPD can't even fill full academy classes. My own little PD
has put up a sign on PCH-- one of those flashing roadside signs they use
for
construction-- that says: "Redondo Beach PD now hiring, great benefits,
signing bonus, apply at City Hall".
You interested in a second career?
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
BTR1701
2021-12-06 19:52:47 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
Oh come on! How many applicants compared to the number of available
positions do you think the typical American police departments get?
If it's under 10:1 I'd be gobsmacked.
These days? With all the 'hate the police' rhetoric out there? Officers are
retiring in droves and the departments are struggling for applicants to
replace them.
L.A Sheriffs and LAPD can't even fill full academy classes. My own little PD
has put up a sign on PCH-- one of those flashing roadside signs they use
for
construction-- that says: "Redondo Beach PD now hiring, great benefits,
signing bonus, apply at City Hall".
You interested in a second career?
I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked i
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go throug
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective. He said state la
requires a full police academy for certified peace officers, so that'd be
dealbreaker for me. I don't have another police academy in me at my age.

I thought about asking if he was sure there wasn't some kind of 'means an
methods' loophole in the law where he could just reach into his Drawer o
Badges and toss me one and put me on a special task force or something.
Adam H. Kerman
2021-12-06 20:20:53 UTC
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I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked if
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go through
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective. He said state law
requires a full police academy for certified peace officers, so that'd be a
dealbreaker for me. I don't have another police academy in me at my age.
I thought about asking if he was sure there wasn't some kind of 'means and
methods' loophole in the law where he could just reach into his Drawer of
Badges and toss me one and put me on a special task force or something.
What do you think this is, Hawaii?

Why not get a Pontiac Firebird and a trailer at Malibu pier and an onery
retired truck driver father and a hot young lawyer for a girlfriend, and
hire out at $200 a day plus expenses if you want to be a detective?

Maybe skip the Angel part.
suzeeq
2021-12-06 20:29:24 UTC
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I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked if
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go through
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective. He said state law
requires a full police academy for certified peace officers, so that'd be a
dealbreaker for me. I don't have another police academy in me at my age.
I thought about asking if he was sure there wasn't some kind of 'means and
methods' loophole in the law where he could just reach into his Drawer of
Badges and toss me one and put me on a special task force or something.
What do you think this is, Hawaii?
Why not get a Pontiac Firebird and a trailer at Malibu pier and an onery
retired truck driver father and a hot young lawyer for a girlfriend, and
hire out at $200 a day plus expenses if you want to be a detective?
Maybe skip the Angel part.
Well he's already got a Feebie for a gf, whether she's young and hot is
the view from his eyes.
BTR1701
2021-12-06 20:39:21 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked if
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go through
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective. He said stat
law
requires a full police academy for certified peace officers, so that'd be a
dealbreaker for me. I don't have another police academy in me at my age.
I thought about asking if he was sure there wasn't some kind of 'means and
methods' loophole in the law where he could just reach into his Drawer of
Badges and toss me one and put me on a special task force or something.
What do you think this is, Hawaii?
Why not get a Pontiac Firebird and a trailer at Malibu pier and an onery
retired truck driver father and a hot young lawyer for a girlfriend, and
hire out at $200 a day plus expenses if you want to be a detective?
Maybe skip the Angel part.
Well he's already got a Feebie for a gf, whether she's young and hot is
the view from his eyes.
No, she's an LAPD Robbery-Homicide detective. I'd never date an FBI agent
Well, okay, except for that one time...
Adam H. Kerman
2021-12-07 01:46:11 UTC
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I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked if
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go through
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective. He said state law
requires a full police academy for certified peace officers, so
that'd be a
Post by suzeeq
Post by Adam H. Kerman
dealbreaker for me. I don't have another police academy in me at my age.
I thought about asking if he was sure there wasn't some kind of
'means and
Post by suzeeq
Post by Adam H. Kerman
methods' loophole in the law where he could just reach into his Drawer of
Badges and toss me one and put me on a special task force or something.
What do you think this is, Hawaii?
Why not get a Pontiac Firebird and a trailer at Malibu pier and an onery
retired truck driver father and a hot young lawyer for a girlfriend, and
hire out at $200 a day plus expenses if you want to be a detective?
Maybe skip the Angel part.
Well he's already got a Feebie for a gf, whether she's young and hot is
the view from his eyes.
No, she's an LAPD Robbery-Homicide detective. I'd never date an FBI agent.
Well, okay, except for that one time...
Oh sorry, I misremembered.
It's an Alyson Hannigan reference.
The Horny Goat
2021-12-07 00:04:59 UTC
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Why not get a Pontiac Firebird and a trailer at Malibu pier and an onery
retired truck driver father and a hot young lawyer for a girlfriend, and
hire out at $200 a day plus expenses if you want to be a detective?
Maybe skip the Angel part.
"the Angel part"?

I dunno - I thought Juliet Landau was pretty hot in her prime and I've
been told David Borenaz was considered prime cheesecake....though I've
often heard that in the Buffy temperature average vampire body
temperature was about 15 degrees below 98.6 so in the unlikely event
Buffy + Angel were ever non-platonic it would be a chilling
experience....
anim8rfsk
2021-12-06 20:30:34 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
Oh come on! How many applicants compared to the number of available
positions do you think the typical American police departments get?
If it's under 10:1 I'd be gobsmacked.
These days? With all the 'hate the police' rhetoric out there? Officers are
retiring in droves and the departments are struggling for applicants to
replace them.
L.A Sheriffs and LAPD can't even fill full academy classes. My own little PD
has put up a sign on PCH-- one of those flashing roadside signs they use
for
construction-- that says: "Redondo Beach PD now hiring, great benefits,
signing bonus, apply at City Hall".
You interested in a second career?
I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked if
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go through
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective. He said state
law
requires a full police academy for certified peace officers, so that'd be a
dealbreaker for me. I don't have another police academy in me at my age.
Their loss.
I thought about asking if he was sure there wasn't some kind of 'means and
methods' loophole in the law where he could just reach into his Drawer of
Badges and toss me one and put me on a special task force or something.
Heh
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
trotsky
2021-12-07 14:37:54 UTC
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But most of us have our stories of our first 10 years after high
school and most of us make a reasonable transition. Rittenhouse will
not however be one of them - quite a few career doors will now be
closed to him particularly the police where he hoped to wind up.
He was acquitted. If he manages not to get cocky about shooting more
people, then lots of police departments would be willing to take him.
And if they don't take him, they'll have to explain why and if they use
his trial against him, they may be in for some legal problems.
Oh come on! How many applicants compared to the number of available
positions do you think the typical American police departments get?
If it's under 10:1 I'd be gobsmacked.
These days? With all the 'hate the police' rhetoric out there? Officers are
retiring in droves and the departments are struggling for applicants to
replace them.
L.A Sheriffs and LAPD can't even fill full academy classes. My own little PD
has put up a sign on PCH-- one of those flashing roadside signs they use
for
construction-- that says: "Redondo Beach PD now hiring, great benefits,
signing bonus, apply at City Hall".
You interested in a second career?
I actually thought about it. I talked to the watch commander and asked if
they're hiring anyone but patrol officers and if I'd have to go through
another academy. I said I'd love to come on as a detective.
It's nice to see you think so little of the police that you expect them
to make the rules up as they go along. Hey, why not go to the military
and see if you can go on board as a sergeant or lieutenant or maybe a
general?

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