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Rhino
2024-12-18 10:25:41 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal

Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....

No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
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BTR1701
2024-12-18 14:28:11 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
Rhino
2024-12-18 15:14:49 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
nb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbm,

Deena, our cat, felt she had to make that point. I'm really not clear
what her point is though....

As for me, I agree with you. It's one thing to hunt to feed yourself -
although I can't help but think they had other dietary options at the
nearest restaurant or grocery store - but hunting for the pleasure of
killing an animal that (presumably) did you no harm just seems cruel.
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Ed Stasiak
2024-12-18 18:27:08 UTC
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BTR1701
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
They would have eaten the bear (and presumably still did).
BTR1701
2024-12-18 19:04:40 UTC
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BTR1701
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
They would have eaten the bear (and presumably still did).
I've never heard of people hunting bear for meat. Every time I've seen bear
hunters it's a trophy hunt. If they were indeed hunting for meat, then I
retract my comment.
anim8rfsk
2024-12-18 20:25:16 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules

You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season

You can’t cripple a bear in a tree

You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season

You can only use specific firearms

You can’t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs

https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
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Nyssa
2024-12-18 20:35:18 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
You can?t cripple a bear in a tree
You can only ?harvest? one bear per license per season
You can only use specific firearms
You can?t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
The bear was up a tree, not threatening those Fearless, Brave
Hunters. Shooting the poor bear who was not a threat (regardless
of the complexity of the local laws) was a cravenly cowardly
thing to do.

And why were the hunters standing under the tree? Did they
think they were going to catch it as it fell?

Stoopid people.

Nyssa, who is on the bear's side in this one
shawn
2024-12-18 21:43:38 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
You can?t cripple a bear in a tree
You can only ?harvest? one bear per license per season
You can only use specific firearms
You can?t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
The bear was up a tree, not threatening those Fearless, Brave
Hunters. Shooting the poor bear who was not a threat (regardless
of the complexity of the local laws) was a cravenly cowardly
thing to do.
And why were the hunters standing under the tree? Did they
think they were going to catch it as it fell?
If the bear is up a tree and manages to fall on one of the men after
they shot it, then I suspect they were trying to shoot the bear in the
behind. I mean they had to be shooting straight up and all they were
likely to see of the bear at that point is that big booty. (Not John
Bigboote) So they got what they deserved for trying to shoot the bear
in the butt when it wasn't even a threat to them.
Post by Nyssa
Stoopid people.
Nyssa, who is on the bear's side in this one
anim8rfsk
2024-12-19 04:31:01 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
You can?t cripple a bear in a tree
You can only ?harvest? one bear per license per season
You can only use specific firearms
You can?t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
The bear was up a tree, not threatening those Fearless, Brave
Hunters. Shooting the poor bear who was not a threat (regardless
of the complexity of the local laws) was a cravenly cowardly
thing to do.
And why were the hunters standing under the tree? Did they
think they were going to catch it as it fell?
If the bear is up a tree and manages to fall on one of the men after
they shot it, then I suspect they were trying to shoot the bear in the
behind. I mean they had to be shooting straight up and all they were
likely to see of the bear at that point is that big booty. (Not John
Bigboote) So they got what they deserved for trying to shoot the bear
in the butt when it wasn't even a threat to them.
Absolutely
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Post by Nyssa
Stoopid people.
Nyssa, who is on the bear's side in this one
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Rhino
2024-12-18 23:47:27 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
You can?t cripple a bear in a tree
You can only ?harvest? one bear per license per season
You can only use specific firearms
You can?t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
The bear was up a tree, not threatening those Fearless, Brave
Hunters. Shooting the poor bear who was not a threat (regardless
of the complexity of the local laws) was a cravenly cowardly
thing to do.
And why were the hunters standing under the tree? Did they
think they were going to catch it as it fell?
According to the man's widow, he was trying to get his dog back from the
tree, presumably so the bear wouldn't fall on the dog. (I'm picturing
the dog at the base of the tree baying at the bear.) If that's what
happened I can feel some sympathy for the man for that part of the event.

We had a situation outside Toronto several years ago where a man, his
son, and the family dog were walking along a river bank during the
spring thaw/runoff and the dog apparently stepped into the water. He got
into some trouble there and the son, worried about the dog, went into
the water to rescue him. The son also got in trouble before he'd rescued
the dog so the father went in after the son. The son and the father both
drowned. Meanwhile, the dog got out of trouble on his own somehow and
survived the incident. The humans were actually noble in that situation
but it cost them everything, making the whole thing a tragedy.
Post by Nyssa
Stoopid people.
Nyssa, who is on the bear's side in this one
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shawn
2024-12-18 20:37:53 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
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You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
Post by anim8rfsk
You can only use specific firearms
If only it could be limited to sling shots only.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
Is that because dogs are supposed to have a day of rest?
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https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
anim8rfsk
2024-12-19 04:31:00 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Yeah, that was odd
Post by shawn
Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
That’s the one thing I’ll give them. You don’t get to shoot a bear and just
leave it unless it’s sick. You have to pack the thing out.
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Post by anim8rfsk
You can only use specific firearms
If only it could be limited to sling shots only.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
Is that because dogs are supposed to have a day of rest?
Post by anim8rfsk
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
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shawn
2024-12-19 04:43:26 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Yeah, that was odd
Post by shawn
Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
That’s the one thing I’ll give them. You don’t get to shoot a bear and just
leave it unless it’s sick. You have to pack the thing out.
So the intention is hunting to get the carcass and not for sport or to
lessen the population.
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Post by anim8rfsk
You can only use specific firearms
If only it could be limited to sling shots only.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
Is that because dogs are supposed to have a day of rest?
Post by anim8rfsk
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
suzeeq
2024-12-19 05:29:43 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Yeah, that was odd
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Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
That’s the one thing I’ll give them. You don’t get to shoot a bear and just
leave it unless it’s sick. You have to pack the thing out.
So the intention is hunting to get the carcass and not for sport or to
lessen the population.
Well you can always eat them.
Dimensional Traveler
2024-12-19 16:21:28 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Yeah, that was odd
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Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
That’s the one thing I’ll give them. You don’t get to shoot a bear and just
leave it unless it’s sick. You have to pack the thing out.
So the intention is hunting to get the carcass and not for sport or to
lessen the population.
Well you can always eat them.
Or drop it in Central Park.
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moviePig
2024-12-19 22:13:54 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Yeah, that was odd
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Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
That’s the one thing I’ll give them. You don’t get to shoot a bear and just
leave it unless it’s sick. You have to pack the thing out.
So the intention is hunting to get the carcass and not for sport or to
lessen the population.
Well you can always eat them.
Not a gristly bear.

anim8rfsk
2024-12-19 21:39:13 UTC
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A group of men were bear hunting in Virginia when the bear that they'd
been chasing climbed a tree. They shot at the bear in the tree and it
fell out of the tree, landing on top one of the hunters. Although rushed
to hospital, the man who'd had the bear land on him died of his injuries.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virginia-falling-bear-fatal
Years ago, I heard a joke whose punch line was "Sometimes you get the
bear but sometimes the bear gets YOU." I guess both are true in this
case....
No disrespect to the family of the victim who was, apparently, a very
nice guy.
Not nice enough that he wasn't out shooting bears for no reason. I don't
have a problem with hunting for food, but hunting for fun when the result
is a bear dying for their amusement is repulsive.
There are all kinds of weird rules
You can hunt bears from 4 AM to 10 PM during Bear hound training season
Seems like they could limit it to daylight hours as those hours will
end up having people out hunting with lights since it will still be
dark. Something that is otherwise considered illegal when hunting
other creatures.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t cripple a bear in a tree
So you could cripple a bear anywhere else?
Yeah, that was odd
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Post by anim8rfsk
You can only “harvest” one bear per license per season
They have a problem with the word "kill"?
That’s the one thing I’ll give them. You don’t get to shoot a bear and just
leave it unless it’s sick. You have to pack the thing out.
So the intention is hunting to get the carcass and not for sport or to
lessen the population.
Well, they apparently want you to kill the ones with me, but you have to
leave them where they fell. So I’m not actually sure what the intention is.
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You can only use specific firearms
If only it could be limited to sling shots only.
Post by anim8rfsk
You can’t hunt or kill a bear on Sundays with the aid of dogs
Is that because dogs are supposed to have a day of rest?
Post by anim8rfsk
https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/bear/
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