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BTR1701
2024-12-08 18:13:54 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.

What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Adam H. Kerman
2024-12-08 19:42:51 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Hahahahahahahaha
Rhino
2024-12-08 19:52:49 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
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Rhino
moviePig
2024-12-08 21:29:54 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Your Name
2024-12-08 23:14:35 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
shawn
2024-12-08 23:38:54 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Just how fast are your floats moving?
BTR1701
2024-12-08 23:54:01 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Just how fast are your floats moving?
Seatbelts are also a politically correct thing. For example, under Hollywood
rules, you can't show a character in a movie or TV show riding in a car unless
they're wearing a seatbelt. Even the most depraved, violent, psychotic
murderer has to be wearing his seatbelt if he's in a scene where he's
traveling in a car. It's okay to show him killing and dismembering people but
heaven forfend we 'send the wrong message' by letting him drive a car without
buckling in.
moviePig
2024-12-09 03:40:59 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Just how fast are your floats moving?
Seatbelts are also a politically correct thing. For example, under Hollywood
rules, you can't show a character in a movie or TV show riding in a car unless
they're wearing a seatbelt. Even the most depraved, violent, psychotic
murderer has to be wearing his seatbelt if he's in a scene where he's
traveling in a car. It's okay to show him killing and dismembering people but
heaven forfend we 'send the wrong message' by letting him drive a car without
buckling in.
The most dramatic moment in the most dramatic car chase ever filmed...
The Horny Goat
2024-12-10 03:58:24 UTC
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Seatbelts are also a politically correct thing. For example, under Hollywood
rules, you can't show a character in a movie or TV show riding in a car unless
they're wearing a seatbelt. Even the most depraved, violent, psychotic
murderer has to be wearing his seatbelt if he's in a scene where he's
traveling in a car. It's okay to show him killing and dismembering people but
heaven forfend we 'send the wrong message' by letting him drive a car without
buckling in.
The most dramatic moment in the most dramatic car chase ever filmed...
If you're talking about OJ then I don't think he was wearing his
seatbelt. Not that it was a particularly hazardous "chase".
NoBody
2024-12-09 12:32:08 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Just how fast are your floats moving?
Seatbelts are also a politically correct thing. For example, under Hollywood
rules, you can't show a character in a movie or TV show riding in a car unless
they're wearing a seatbelt. Even the most depraved, violent, psychotic
murderer has to be wearing his seatbelt if he's in a scene where he's
traveling in a car. It's okay to show him killing and dismembering people but
heaven forfend we 'send the wrong message' by letting him drive a car without
buckling in.
At least he's a murderer concerned with safety :)
Your Name
2024-12-09 01:55:56 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Just how fast are your floats moving?
Only about 3-5km/h down roads closed to all other traffic ... it's
simply yet another case of Health & Safety / Political Correctness
stupidity in action. :-\
moviePig
2024-12-08 23:41:01 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people
will be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in
on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored.  E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't.  So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Jesus. Are those floats or hydrofoils?...
BTR1701
2024-12-08 23:51:34 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Oh, FFS...
The Horny Goat
2024-12-10 03:56:28 UTC
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Here in New Zealand, Santa and his elves (and presumably any other
person) have been told they have to wear seat belt on the parade
floats. :-\
Oh, FFS...
I'm expecting to get a call from my niece who lives in Christchurch NZ
on Christmas day.

One more thing to ask about I suppose.
Rhino
2024-12-09 01:28:48 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored.  E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't.  So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
I truly wish your lot would STOP taking offence on behalf of other
people. The world would get dramatically better if you did. Give people
their own voice and agency and let THEM express offence if THEY feel it.
And if they don't, shut the fuck up and let it be.
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Rhino
moviePig
2024-12-09 03:44:29 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people
will be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in
on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored.  E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't.  So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
I truly wish your lot would STOP taking offence on behalf of other
people. The world would get dramatically better if you did. Give people
their own voice and agency and let THEM express offence if THEY feel it.
And if they don't, shut the fuck up and let it be.
Because if they're offended they'll *say* so ...right?
Rhino
2024-12-09 13:08:52 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people
will be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode
in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored.  E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't.  So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
I truly wish your lot would STOP taking offence on behalf of other
people. The world would get dramatically better if you did. Give
people their own voice and agency and let THEM express offence if THEY
feel it. And if they don't, shut the fuck up and let it be.
Because if they're offended they'll *say* so ...right?
You have really got a bad case of Saviour Syndrome don't you? Only YOU
are "brave" enough to stand up for the (verbally) oppressed as those
poor timid souls are quaking in their boots whenever someone says
anything that could be construed as even vaguely negative in their
presence....

Why don't you ASK THEM FIRST if they feel offended by whatever remark
you heard before sticking your nose into their affairs and scolding the
person who said it? You might very well be astonished to find that they
were not offended at all!
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Rhino
moviePig
2024-12-09 17:46:02 UTC
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I'm sick of the libs scolding me for wishing people "Happy Honda Days"
because I could offend families that celebrate Toyotathon.
What do the wokies expect me to say? Am I required to just wish everyone a
Happy Generic Winter Car Sale?
Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact
they don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the
only people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other*
people will be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses
they rode in on!
The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored.  E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't.  So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or
even when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
I truly wish your lot would STOP taking offence on behalf of other
people. The world would get dramatically better if you did. Give
people their own voice and agency and let THEM express offence if
THEY feel it. And if they don't, shut the fuck up and let it be.
Because if they're offended they'll *say* so ...right?
You have really got a bad case of Saviour Syndrome don't you? Only YOU
are "brave" enough to stand up for the (verbally) oppressed as those
poor timid souls are quaking in their boots whenever someone says
anything that could be construed as even vaguely negative in their
presence....
Why don't you ASK THEM FIRST if they feel offended by whatever remark
you heard before sticking your nose into their affairs and scolding the
person who said it? You might very well be astonished to find that they
were not offended at all!
Do you say "kike" or "nigger"? You don't? So whom did *you* ASK FIRST?
The Horny Goat
2024-12-10 04:08:20 UTC
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Why don't you ASK THEM FIRST if they feel offended by whatever remark
you heard before sticking your nose into their affairs and scolding the
person who said it? You might very well be astonished to find that they
were not offended at all!
Do you say "kike" or "nigger"? You don't? So whom did *you* ASK FIRST?
I did once use the word "niggardly" when trolling a newly re-elected
School Board member who knew I had voted for her.

At the post election reception she reacted predictably and the
conversation went something like:

Me: Susan we've known each other for 15+ years right? So you certainly
know WHAT I said and that I would NEVER use that rather nasty word
that sounds something like that.

Her: nodding in agreement but then "but but but"

Me: "Where's the but? I know what I said and you know what I said and
I also know that one of the key values I hope all trustees embrace is
promoting the correct use of the English language - and to use it both
correctly and with creativity - I'm a former math teacher for heavens'
sake!" (she knew that and nodded)

And one thing for sure - I never would have said it if there had been
strangers around who don't know that I sometimes troll for a reaction.

It was a happy occasion and we had glasses of wine (only one) in our
hands and a good time was had by all and NOT because of the grape.
The Horny Goat
2024-12-10 03:55:01 UTC
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The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
"Nigger" is offensive irregardless of the ethnicity of the speaker. No
sane non-racist should think anybody gets a free pass on naughty
words.

If I knew Mrs Goldstein's name was Goldstein I certainly wouldn't say
"Merry Christmas" - but then I deliberately avoid awkwardness while
recognizing I might occasionally put my foot in it out of ignorance.
moviePig
2024-12-10 21:25:26 UTC
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The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely
ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't,
simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be
offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even
when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat...
"Nigger" is offensive irregardless of the ethnicity of the speaker. No
sane non-racist should think anybody gets a free pass on naughty
words.
But, afaics, blacks speaking of blacks use 'nigger' play-offensively
...much like we might use "sonofabitch".
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If I knew Mrs Goldstein's name was Goldstein I certainly wouldn't say
"Merry Christmas" - but then I deliberately avoid awkwardness while
recognizing I might occasionally put my foot in it out of ignorance.
Afaik, insult always involves intent. I never understand claims to the
contrary.
The Horny Goat
2024-12-11 07:17:36 UTC
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"Nigger" is offensive irregardless of the ethnicity of the speaker. No
sane non-racist should think anybody gets a free pass on naughty
words.
But, afaics, blacks speaking of blacks use 'nigger' play-offensively
...much like we might use "sonofabitch".
I know that but remain offended when I hear it.

And no question race of the speaker doesn't make it less racist. Sorry
- no "Get out of Jail Free" card from here. When I hear it I usually
say under my breath "stupid mother******"
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If I knew Mrs Goldstein's name was Goldstein I certainly wouldn't say
"Merry Christmas" - but then I deliberately avoid awkwardness while
recognizing I might occasionally put my foot in it out of ignorance.
Afaik, insult always involves intent. I never understand claims to the
contrary.
So if I'm not intending to insult you it's no damage no foul? Uh - I
don't want to test that in Watts.
moviePig
2024-12-11 21:04:31 UTC
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"Nigger" is offensive irregardless of the ethnicity of the speaker. No
sane non-racist should think anybody gets a free pass on naughty
words.
But, afaics, blacks speaking of blacks use 'nigger' play-offensively
...much like we might use "sonofabitch".
I know that but remain offended when I hear it.
And no question race of the speaker doesn't make it less racist. Sorry
- no "Get out of Jail Free" card from here. When I hear it I usually
say under my breath "stupid mother******"
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If I knew Mrs Goldstein's name was Goldstein I certainly wouldn't say
"Merry Christmas" - but then I deliberately avoid awkwardness while
recognizing I might occasionally put my foot in it out of ignorance.
Afaik, insult always involves intent. I never understand claims to the
contrary.
So if I'm not intending to insult you it's no damage no foul? Uh - I
don't want to test that in Watts.
No, there might be *loads* of damage. There's just no insult.

The Horny Goat
2024-12-10 03:47:22 UTC
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Just wish people a Merry Christmas - unless you know for a fact they
don't celebrate Christmas - and be done with it. I'll bet the only
people you offend are the "progressives" who THINK *other* people will
be offended. Fuck the "progressives" and the horses they rode in on!
Hear hear!

If I wish somebody a Merry Christmas they probably don't belong in our
community if they think that the wish is made in a spirit of hurting
them.

If I know darned well they DON'T observe Christmas then I won't say
that - I'm not one who says things I think may offend just for the
hell of it.

Hopefully all of the above is too obvious for words.
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