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2022-01-09 14:20:24 UTC
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"Frogs". A southern plantation home is overrun by "killer" frogs.
I used the quotes because the only time the frogs killed anyone
was at the end, when they killed the wheelchair-bound patriarch.
Everyone else died by snakes, iguannas, crabs, and web-spinning
tarantulas. Hey, it's Sam Elliot and JoAnne VanArk!
Hey, it's Ray Milland! It's tragic that crap like this was all he was
being offered at the end of his career. He did a little better on TV.

The Uninvited is still the best ghost story I've ever seen on film, and
Ray is terrific in it. Only 295 days until Halloween.
Ian J. Ball
2022-01-09 17:58:07 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
Ironically, there is a thread right now on Reddit r/television about
how the show lost the thread in episode #1.9 (I said it lost the thread
in ep. #1.10, but same idea) and that season #2 isn't nearly as good as
season #1.
I agree with the general thrust of the Reddit post - season #2 is a
definite step down from the first 9 episodes of season #1, and the show
would have benefited from a season focusing on Layton trying to run the
newly "merged" train before introducing the Sean Bean Wilford circus.
Indeed, the show transforms into a quasi-"Blacklist" with this move,
as it relies on the same "let your lead actor chew the scenery with
reckless abandon" approach to TV show appeal.
However, I do sort of like Sean Bean mentally torturing lil' Rowan
Blanchard.
And Daveed Diggs seems to have found his footing in season #2, and
Alison Wright really steps up as Ruth.
I also forgot that Georgina Haig is in season #2, which is one of
the reasons I wanted to watch this show in the first place!
But, as predicted, Jennifer Connolly's Melanie is unwisely absent
from much of it (though she is in ep's #2.1-2.3, which is one more
early season #2 ep than I thought she'd be in...). And a number of
season #2 characters, notably Jinju (Susan Park) and Dr. Klimpt, have
disappeared without even a mention. (In fact, the whole subplot about
the "drawers" has been completely shelved, apparently...)
Ep. #2.6 takes us back to Melanie, who apparently cracks up while at
the mountaintop research station.
I will finish out "Snowpiercer" this weekend.

The Blacklist (recorded) - "Between Sleep and Awake" (ep. #9.7). Yikes!
- Not only a "flashback episode", but a *Ressler* flashback episode!!
:|
This episode shows us what Ressler was up to in between Lizzie's
death and the "present".
Honestly, I didn't ask!!
I guess if you cared about this, this was an OK ep (though
cliche-ridden, as Arthur said).
But I don't really care about Ressler (at least, not at this level
of detail!), so...
On the plus side, this episode had neither Aram nor Park, so it was
a welcome break from those two.

Labor, Lies and Murder (Lifetime) - This trod no new ground, right down
to the psycho (Lauren Buglioli) faking her "pregnancy" (early on, I was
pleased when I thought they were actually going to go against this
trope, but... nope!). They also unnecessarily tried to play "coy" with
who the villain was through the first half, which was dumb as it was
obvious it was Buglioli's character. The one thing I did like here was
that they played it straight with the original rookie doula (Poppy
George), and didn't kill her off.
--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!
Arthur Lipscomb
2022-01-09 18:50:49 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
You're really burning through them.
Post by Ian J. Ball
  Ironically, there is a thread right now on Reddit r/television about
how the show lost the thread in episode #1.9 (I said it lost the thread
in ep. #1.10, but same idea) and that season #2 isn't nearly as good as
season #1.
  I agree with the general thrust of the Reddit post - season #2 is a
definite step down from the first 9 episodes of season #1, and the show
would have benefited from a season focusing on Layton trying to run the
newly "merged" train before introducing the Sean Bean Wilford circus.
I can agree with that.
Post by Ian J. Ball
  Indeed, the show transforms into a quasi-"Blacklist" with this move,
as it relies on the same "let your lead actor chew the scenery with
reckless abandon" approach to TV show appeal.
  However, I do sort of like Sean Bean mentally torturing lil' Rowan
Blanchard.
  And Daveed Diggs seems to have found his footing in season #2,
I hadn't thought much about it, but you're probably right about that.


and
Post by Ian J. Ball
Alison Wright really steps up as Ruth.
  I also forgot that Georgina Haig is in season #2, which is one of the
reasons I wanted to watch this show in the first place!
  But, as predicted, Jennifer Connolly's Melanie is unwisely absent
from much of it (though she is in ep's #2.1-2.3, which is one more early
season #2 ep than I thought she'd be in...). And a number of season #2
characters, notably Jinju (Susan Park) and Dr. Klimpt, have disappeared
without even a mention. (In fact, the whole subplot about the "drawers"
has been completely shelved, apparently...)
  Ep. #2.6 takes us back to Melanie, who apparently cracks up while at
the mountaintop research station.
  I will finish out "Snowpiercer" this weekend.
The Blacklist (recorded) - "Between Sleep and Awake" (ep. #9.7). Yikes!
- Not only a "flashback episode", but a *Ressler* flashback episode!! :|
  This episode shows us what Ressler was up to in between Lizzie's
death and the "present".
  Honestly, I didn't ask!!
No one asked!!!
Post by Ian J. Ball
  I guess if you cared about this, this was an OK ep (though
cliche-ridden, as Arthur said).
  But I don't really care about Ressler (at least, not at this level of
detail!), so...
  On the plus side, this episode had neither Aram nor Park, so it was a
welcome break from those two.
I watch for Red. The sooner the writers learn that the better.
Post by Ian J. Ball
Labor, Lies and Murder (Lifetime) - This trod no new ground, right down
to the psycho (Lauren Buglioli) faking her "pregnancy" (early on, I was
pleased when I thought they were actually going to go against this
trope, but... nope!). They also unnecessarily tried to play "coy" with
who the villain was through the first half, which was dumb as it was
obvious it was Buglioli's character. The one thing I did like here was
that they played it straight with the original rookie doula (Poppy
George), and didn't kill her off.
I watched:


Scream The original 1996 horror movie written by Kevin Williamson and
directed by Wes Craven. It stars Neve Campbell as a high schooler
trying to survive the local high school slasher. Courteney Cox and
David Arquette also co-star and their movie relationship will mirror
their real life relationship as the series progresses. Thanks to
excellent writing, directing, and acting, this movie stands the test of
time and holds up great. No matter how many times I watch it, it's
always enjoyable. And knowing who the killer is actually adds to the
movie because it's so well written. And another thing I like that I
never noticed until later viewings is Live Schreiber is actually in this
movie playing the blink and you miss him throw away character of Cotton
Weary. Schreiber would of course return to play the character again in
the next two movies.


Scream 2 - the 1997 sequel which brings back all the surviving
characters from the first movie and adds Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jerry
O'Connell, Timothy Olyphant, and Laurie Metcalf. Apparently, Neve
Campbell just attracts serial killers because a new one is after her in
college. Not as good as the first one, but still very watchable,
especially with the Wes Craven commentary.


Scream 3 - 2000 sequel which brings back all the surviving characters
from the first two movies and adds Patrick Dempsey, Scott Foley, Lance
Henriksen, Jenny McCarthy, Emily Mortimer, and Parker Posey. This is
probably my least favorite of the series, but with the Wes Craven
commentary, it's not that bad. One thing they mentioned on the
commentary, and it shows in the lack of quality of this movie compared
to the others, is they were constantly rewriting the script as they were
filming the movie. Often the day of, on set. Wes said they were
building sets for scenes that hadn't been written yet, but just knew
there would be a scene that took place at that location. Or he'd say
something like Patrick Dempsey didn't get the script for his scene until
he showed up on set because it hadn't been written yet. I know this
happens all the time where movies go into production with no script.
But I honestly don't understand how it's possible. Why can't they just
finish the script first?!?


Scream 4 - The 2011 sequel. Wow, it's been *that long?!? This one
brings back all the surviving characters from the first three movies,
and adds Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, and Anthony Anderson. Plus,
with cameos from Anan Paquin and Kristen Bell. I have watched this
movie several times now, and yet I can never remember who the killer is!
Early in the movie there was a scene with the killer and a victim
standing next to each other, and I was positive the roles were reversed.
I think one of the reasons I look forward to revisiting it is I
honestly have *no* idea what's going to happen. I almost didn't listen
to the commentary because I knew the commentary would spoil the movie.
But I couldn't resist listening to Wes Craven again. I found it amusing
that a plot point in this one is everyone getting together to marathon
all the "Stab" movies. That's obviously bad writing since in real life
no one would ever sit down and marathon a bunch of slasher movies.


The 355 (theatrical) New spy movie staring Jessica Chastain, Penélope
Cruz, Fan Bingbing, Diane Kruger, and Lupita Nyong'o. Chastain plays a
CIA agent who along with her partner (Sebastian Stan) is after a
"McGuffin Device." She runs into a German spy (Kruger) who is also
after the device and accidentally ruins the operation. Chastain later
learns her partner was killed by the bad guys. She is under
investigation for what went wrong, but her boss lets her go on a
personal vendetta to get revenge and the device back. Along the way she
winds up partnering with agents from other spy agencies. This was
surprisingly good. I was expecting light fluff, but this was actually
pretty hard core. The only thing that kept bugging me was I was trying
to remember if didn't I just see Chastain starring in a different spy
movie a year or two ago. And as soon as the credits rolled I double
checked and sure enough Chastain also starred in "Ava." This would pair
*very* well with Ava. As soon as I can get this on disc, I'm definitely
going to do a marathon of "The Long Kiss Goodnight," "Ava," "The 355,"
and probably "The Rhythm Section." That would be a solid set of female
driven revenge/spy flicks which, except for "The Rhythm Section" share
the same cast.


Yellowjackets (Showtime) - "Flight of the Bumblebee" - Episode from
last week. This was a pretty good one with a shocking ending.
Ian J. Ball
2022-01-09 19:21:55 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
You're really burning through them.
Some shows, like "The Witcher" I guess, and definitely "The Expanse", I
try to carefully "dole out" one epie per day. Other shows, I just burn
through - I can't think of a good reason to not just burn through
"Snowpierecer" (or something like "Titans" or "Hanna").

Once I'm done with this show, I can move on to other fare like "The
Wheel of Time"...
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Post by Ian J. Ball
  Ironically, there is a thread right now on Reddit r/television about
how the show lost the thread in episode #1.9 (I said it lost the thread
in ep. #1.10, but same idea) and that season #2 isn't nearly as good as
season #1.
  I agree with the general thrust of the Reddit post - season #2 is a
definite step down from the first 9 episodes of season #1, and the show
would have benefited from a season focusing on Layton trying to run the
newly "merged" train before introducing the Sean Bean Wilford circus.
I can agree with that.
Post by Ian J. Ball
  Indeed, the show transforms into a quasi-"Blacklist" with this move,
as it relies on the same "let your lead actor chew the scenery with
reckless abandon" approach to TV show appeal.
  However, I do sort of like Sean Bean mentally torturing lil' Rowan Blanchard.
  And Daveed Diggs seems to have found his footing in season #2,
I hadn't thought much about it, but you're probably right about that.
I actually noticed him getting better towards the end of season #1. But
in season #2, I don't have any complaints with his performance.
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Post by Ian J. Ball
and
Alison Wright really steps up as Ruth.
  I also forgot that Georgina Haig is in season #2, which is one of the
reasons I wanted to watch this show in the first place!
  But, as predicted, Jennifer Connolly's Melanie is unwisely absent
from much of it (though she is in ep's #2.1-2.3, which is one more
early season #2 ep than I thought she'd be in...). And a number of
season #2 characters, notably Jinju (Susan Park) and Dr. Klimpt, have
disappeared without even a mention. (In fact, the whole subplot about
the "drawers" has been completely shelved, apparently...)
  Ep. #2.6 takes us back to Melanie, who apparently cracks up while at
the mountaintop research station.
  I will finish out "Snowpiercer" this weekend.
Scream The original 1996 horror movie written by Kevin Williamson and
directed by Wes Craven.
I need to revisit this - I haven't seen in it several years.

And it has Rose McGowan back when she was still super hott!!
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Scream 4 - The 2011 sequel. Wow, it's been *that long?!? This one
brings back all the surviving characters from the first three movies,
and adds Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, and Anthony Anderson. Plus,
with cameos from Anan Paquin and Kristen Bell.
Don't forget Aimee Teagarden!!
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
I have watched this movie several times now, and yet I can never
remember who the killer is! Early in the movie there was a scene with
the killer and a victim standing next to each other, and I was positive
the roles were reversed. I think one of the reasons I look forward to
revisiting it is I honestly have *no* idea what's going to happen. I
almost didn't listen to the commentary because I knew the commentary
would spoil the movie. But I couldn't resist listening to Wes Craven
again. I found it amusing that a plot point in this one is everyone
getting together to marathon all the "Stab" movies. That's obviously
bad writing since in real life no one would ever sit down and marathon
a bunch of slasher movies.
I've seen this within the last couple of years - I enjoyed it,
certainly more than "3" (which I don't care for), and maybe even more
than "2".
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
The 355 (theatrical) New spy movie staring Jessica Chastain, Penélope
Cruz, Fan Bingbing, Diane Kruger, and Lupita Nyong'o. Chastain plays a
CIA agent who along with her partner (Sebastian Stan) is after a
"McGuffin Device." She runs into a German spy (Kruger) who is also
after the device and accidentally ruins the operation. Chastain later
learns her partner was killed by the bad guys. She is under
investigation for what went wrong, but her boss lets her go on a
personal vendetta to get revenge and the device back. Along the way
she winds up partnering with agents from other spy agencies. This was
surprisingly good. I was expecting light fluff, but this was actually
pretty hard core.
Cool - I'll be on the lookout for this...
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
The only thing that kept bugging me was I was trying to remember if
didn't I just see Chastain starring in a different spy movie a year or
two ago. And as soon as the credits rolled I double checked and sure
enough Chastain also starred in "Ava." This would pair *very* well
with Ava. As soon as I can get this on disc, I'm definitely going to
do a marathon of "The Long Kiss Goodnight," "Ava," "The 355," and
probably "The Rhythm Section." That would be a solid set of female
driven revenge/spy flicks which, except for "The Rhythm Section" share
the same cast.
I guess "American Assassin" won't really fit in then, huh?...
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Yellowjackets (Showtime) - "Flight of the Bumblebee" - Episode from
last week. This was a pretty good one with a shocking ending.
This is another one I'm waiting to finish so I can binge it.
--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!
Arthur Lipscomb
2022-01-09 20:16:00 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
You're really burning through them.
Some shows, like "The Witcher" I guess, and definitely "The Expanse", I
try to carefully "dole out" one epie per day. Other shows, I just burn
through - I can't think of a good reason to not just burn through
"Snowpierecer" (or something like "Titans" or "Hanna").
Once I'm done with this show, I can move on to other fare like "The
Wheel of Time"...
I keep forgetting about the Witcher and Wheel of Time. And Hanna.
Amazon Prime is wear streaming shows go to die. If it's not "The Boys"
it might as well not exist. At least Witcher has a shot at getting
noticed since it's on Netflix.
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Post by Ian J. Ball
  Ironically, there is a thread right now on Reddit r/television
about how the show lost the thread in episode #1.9 (I said it lost
the thread in ep. #1.10, but same idea) and that season #2 isn't
nearly as good as season #1.
  I agree with the general thrust of the Reddit post - season #2 is a
definite step down from the first 9 episodes of season #1, and the
show would have benefited from a season focusing on Layton trying to
run the newly "merged" train before introducing the Sean Bean Wilford
circus.
I can agree with that.
Post by Ian J. Ball
  Indeed, the show transforms into a quasi-"Blacklist" with this
move, as it relies on the same "let your lead actor chew the scenery
with reckless abandon" approach to TV show appeal.
  However, I do sort of like Sean Bean mentally torturing lil' Rowan Blanchard.
  And Daveed Diggs seems to have found his footing in season #2,
I hadn't thought much about it, but you're probably right about that.
I actually noticed him getting better towards the end of season #1. But
in season #2, I don't have any complaints with his performance.
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Post by Ian J. Ball
and
Alison Wright really steps up as Ruth.
  I also forgot that Georgina Haig is in season #2, which is one of
the reasons I wanted to watch this show in the first place!
  But, as predicted, Jennifer Connolly's Melanie is unwisely absent
from much of it (though she is in ep's #2.1-2.3, which is one more
early season #2 ep than I thought she'd be in...). And a number of
season #2 characters, notably Jinju (Susan Park) and Dr. Klimpt, have
disappeared without even a mention. (In fact, the whole subplot about
the "drawers" has been completely shelved, apparently...)
  Ep. #2.6 takes us back to Melanie, who apparently cracks up while
at the mountaintop research station.
  I will finish out "Snowpiercer" this weekend.
Scream The original 1996 horror movie written by Kevin Williamson and
directed by Wes Craven.
I need to revisit this - I haven't seen in it several years.
And it has Rose McGowan back when she was still super hott!!
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Scream 4 - The 2011 sequel.  Wow, it's been *that long?!?  This one
brings back all the surviving characters from the first three movies,
and adds Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, and Anthony Anderson.  Plus,
with cameos from Anan Paquin and Kristen Bell.
Don't forget Aimee Teagarden!!
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
I have watched this movie several times now, and yet I can never
remember who the killer is!   Early in the movie there was a scene
with the killer and a victim standing next to each other, and I was
positive the roles were reversed.   I think one of the reasons I look
forward to revisiting it is I honestly have *no* idea what's going to
happen.  I almost didn't listen to the commentary because I knew the
commentary would spoil the movie. But I couldn't resist listening to
Wes Craven again.  I found it amusing that a plot point in this one is
everyone getting together to marathon all the "Stab" movies.  That's
obviously bad writing since in real life no one would ever sit down
and marathon a bunch of slasher movies.
I've seen this within the last couple of years - I enjoyed it, certainly
more than "3" (which I don't care for), and maybe even more than "2".
Yeah, 4 is actually really good. Try 3 with the commentary. It's
better that way.
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Post by Arthur Lipscomb
The 355 (theatrical) New spy movie staring Jessica Chastain, Penélope
Cruz, Fan Bingbing, Diane Kruger, and Lupita Nyong'o.  Chastain plays
a CIA agent who along with her partner (Sebastian Stan) is after a
"McGuffin Device."  She runs into a German spy (Kruger) who is also
after the device and accidentally ruins the operation.  Chastain later
learns her partner was killed by the bad guys.  She is under
investigation for what went wrong, but her boss lets her go on a
personal vendetta to get revenge and the device back.  Along the way
she winds up partnering with agents from other spy agencies.  This was
surprisingly good.  I was expecting light fluff, but this was actually
pretty hard core.
Cool - I'll be on the lookout for this...
Post by Arthur Lipscomb
The only thing that kept bugging me was I was trying to remember if
didn't I just see Chastain starring in a different spy movie a year or
two ago.  And as soon as the credits rolled I double checked and sure
enough Chastain also starred in "Ava."  This would pair *very* well
with Ava.  As soon as I can get this on disc, I'm definitely going to
do a marathon of "The Long Kiss Goodnight," "Ava," "The 355," and
probably "The Rhythm Section."  That would be a solid set of female
driven revenge/spy flicks which, except for "The Rhythm Section" share
the same cast.
I guess "American Assassin" won't really fit in then, huh?...
It does if you drop the female lead requirement. But for movies like
this, American Assassin is probably the odd man out. Off the top of my
head, I can't think of any male driven spy revenge flicks. Unless you
count a few James Bond movies. And Jason Stathan, about half of his
movies are assassin revenge flicks! You just have to drop the CIA angle
and he fits right in.
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Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Yellowjackets  (Showtime) - "Flight of the Bumblebee" - Episode from
last week.  This was a pretty good one with a shocking ending.
This is another one I'm waiting to finish so I can binge it.
anim8rfsk
2022-01-09 22:02:50 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
You're really burning through them.
Some shows, like "The Witcher" I guess, and definitely "The Expanse", I
try to carefully "dole out" one epie per day. Other shows, I just burn
through - I can't think of a good reason to not just burn through
"Snowpierecer" (or something like "Titans" or "Hanna").
I burned through season two of “the Witcher” in one night.
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
Ian J. Ball
2022-01-09 22:16:12 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
You're really burning through them.
Some shows, like "The Witcher" I guess, and definitely "The Expanse", I
try to carefully "dole out" one epie per day. Other shows, I just burn
through - I can't think of a good reason to not just burn through
"Snowpierecer" (or something like "Titans" or "Hanna").
I burned through season two of “the Witcher” in one night.
Hey, have you watched "Snowpiercer" yet? Were you the one who called
them out for not knowing their train car directionality?

Because they did something even *more wrong* in, I think ep. #2.4, when
Sean Bean and Rowan Blanchard are having a convo in the enging at the
*backend* of the train, but they show the background *approaching*
instead of **receding** like it should have been

I nearly tore my hair (what's left of it!!) out. The show is getting
really basic technical stuff like this wrong - how can we assume
they're going to get the bigger stuff right?!!
--
"Who would ever do this to him!?" - HottCiara on DOOL (04-27-2020), asking
who would stab Victor Kirakis... How about ANYONE WHO'S EVER MET HIM??!!
anim8rfsk
2022-01-10 00:02:19 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
You're really burning through them.
Some shows, like "The Witcher" I guess, and definitely "The Expanse", I
try to carefully "dole out" one epie per day. Other shows, I just burn
through - I can't think of a good reason to not just burn through
"Snowpierecer" (or something like "Titans" or "Hanna").
I burned through season two of “the Witcher” in one night.
Hey, have you watched "Snowpiercer" yet?
Enough to not want to see any more. In a previous season.


Were you the one who called
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them out for not knowing their train car directionality?
Not that I recall.
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Because they did something even *more wrong* in, I think ep. #2.4, when
Sean Bean and Rowan Blanchard are having a convo in the enging at the
*backend* of the train, but they show the background *approaching*
instead of **receding** like it should have been
Really long trains sometimes have an engine at the back but it shouldn’t be
going in the opposite direction!
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I nearly tore my hair (what's left of it!!) out. The show is getting
really basic technical stuff like this wrong - how can we assume
they're going to get the bigger stuff right?!!
The show I watched wasn’t getting anything right.
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 12:53:07 UTC
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Scream The original 1996 horror movie written by Kevin Williamson and
directed by Wes Craven. It stars Neve Campbell as a high schooler
trying to survive the local high school slasher. Courteney Cox and
David Arquette also co-star and their movie relationship will mirror
their real life relationship as the series progresses. Thanks to
excellent writing, directing, and acting, this movie stands the test of
time and holds up great. No matter how many times I watch it, it's
always enjoyable. And knowing who the killer is actually adds to the
movie because it's so well written. And another thing I like that I
never noticed until later viewings is Live Schreiber is actually in this
movie playing the blink and you miss him throw away character of Cotton
Weary. Schreiber would of course return to play the character again in
the next two movies.
Scream 2 - the 1997 sequel which brings back all the surviving
characters from the first movie and adds Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jerry
O'Connell, Timothy Olyphant, and Laurie Metcalf. Apparently, Neve
Campbell just attracts serial killers because a new one is after her in
college. Not as good as the first one, but still very watchable,
especially with the Wes Craven commentary.
Scream 3 - 2000 sequel which brings back all the surviving characters
from the first two movies and adds Patrick Dempsey, Scott Foley, Lance
Henriksen, Jenny McCarthy, Emily Mortimer, and Parker Posey. This is
probably my least favorite of the series, but with the Wes Craven
commentary, it's not that bad. One thing they mentioned on the
commentary, and it shows in the lack of quality of this movie compared
to the others, is they were constantly rewriting the script as they were
filming the movie. Often the day of, on set. Wes said they were
building sets for scenes that hadn't been written yet, but just knew
there would be a scene that took place at that location. Or he'd say
something like Patrick Dempsey didn't get the script for his scene until
he showed up on set because it hadn't been written yet. I know this
happens all the time where movies go into production with no script.
But I honestly don't understand how it's possible. Why can't they just
finish the script first?!?
Scream 4 - The 2011 sequel. Wow, it's been *that long?!? This one
brings back all the surviving characters from the first three movies,
and adds Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, and Anthony Anderson. Plus,
with cameos from Anan Paquin and Kristen Bell. I have watched this
movie several times now, and yet I can never remember who the killer is!
Early in the movie there was a scene with the killer and a victim
standing next to each other, and I was positive the roles were reversed.
I think one of the reasons I look forward to revisiting it is I
honestly have *no* idea what's going to happen. I almost didn't listen
to the commentary because I knew the commentary would spoil the movie.
But I couldn't resist listening to Wes Craven again. I found it amusing
that a plot point in this one is everyone getting together to marathon
all the "Stab" movies. That's obviously bad writing since in real life
no one would ever sit down and marathon a bunch of slasher movies.
Yeah, who would do such a thing?

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Dimensional Traveler
2022-01-09 23:01:53 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
  Ironically, there is a thread right now on Reddit r/television about
how the show lost the thread in episode #1.9 (I said it lost the thread
in ep. #1.10, but same idea) and that season #2 isn't nearly as good as
season #1.
  I agree with the general thrust of the Reddit post - season #2 is a
definite step down from the first 9 episodes of season #1, and the show
would have benefited from a season focusing on Layton trying to run the
newly "merged" train before introducing the Sean Bean Wilford circus.
  Indeed, the show transforms into a quasi-"Blacklist" with this move,
as it relies on the same "let your lead actor chew the scenery with
reckless abandon" approach to TV show appeal.
  However, I do sort of like Sean Bean mentally torturing lil' Rowan
Blanchard.
  And Daveed Diggs seems to have found his footing in season #2, and
Alison Wright really steps up as Ruth.
  I also forgot that Georgina Haig is in season #2, which is one of the
reasons I wanted to watch this show in the first place!
  But, as predicted, Jennifer Connolly's Melanie is unwisely absent
from much of it (though she is in ep's #2.1-2.3, which is one more early
season #2 ep than I thought she'd be in...). And a number of season #2
characters, notably Jinju (Susan Park) and Dr. Klimpt, have disappeared
without even a mention. (In fact, the whole subplot about the "drawers"
has been completely shelved, apparently...)+
Weren't the drawers where a lot of them disappeared to as Willard culled?
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2022-01-09 23:34:06 UTC
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What did you watch?
Snowpiercer (HBO Max) - Ep's #2.1-2.4, then later ep's #2.5 & 2.6.
  Ironically, there is a thread right now on Reddit r/television about
how the show lost the thread in episode #1.9 (I said it lost the thread
in ep. #1.10, but same idea) and that season #2 isn't nearly as good as
season #1.
  I agree with the general thrust of the Reddit post - season #2 is a
definite step down from the first 9 episodes of season #1, and the show
would have benefited from a season focusing on Layton trying to run the
newly "merged" train before introducing the Sean Bean Wilford circus.
  Indeed, the show transforms into a quasi-"Blacklist" with this move,
as it relies on the same "let your lead actor chew the scenery with
reckless abandon" approach to TV show appeal.
  However, I do sort of like Sean Bean mentally torturing lil' Rowan Blanchard.
  And Daveed Diggs seems to have found his footing in season #2, and
Alison Wright really steps up as Ruth.
  I also forgot that Georgina Haig is in season #2, which is one of the
reasons I wanted to watch this show in the first place!
  But, as predicted, Jennifer Connolly's Melanie is unwisely absent
from much of it (though she is in ep's #2.1-2.3, which is one more
early season #2 ep than I thought she'd be in...). And a number of
season #2 characters, notably Jinju (Susan Park) and Dr. Klimpt, have
disappeared without even a mention. (In fact, the whole subplot about
the "drawers" has been completely shelved, apparently...)+
Weren't the drawers where a lot of them disappeared to as Willard culled?
That didn't happen until ep. #2.8 - I hadn't gotten there yesterday.
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anim8rfsk
2022-01-09 18:19:29 UTC
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As part of this weekends Decades Binge, they showed eps of
MTM featuring Sueanne Nivans. If memory serves, they gave
the role to Betty White because she had never played a
bitch before and thought the contrast would make Susanne
funnier.
"Frogs". A southern plantation home is overrun by "killer"
frogs. I used the quotes because the only time the frogs
killed anyone was at the end, when they killed the
wheelchair-bound patriarch. Everyone else died by snakes,
iguannas, crabs, and web-spinning tarantulas. Hey, it's
Sam Elliot and JoAnne VanArk!
What did you watch?
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I remember reading an interview with MTM back in the day
that said they were brainstorming about who Lars (Cloris
Leachman's never-seen husband on the show) might be having
a affair with for a story line. It was MTM herself (who
was friends with Betty White) suggested Betty for the role
because of her goody two shoes image would be a perfect
surprise for the audience.
Plus it would be a big laugh because of the way the
character had been written as the "perfect glamorous
housewife." Instead of some femme fatale, seemingly sweet
Betty would be the paramour.
Nyssa, who remembers the series fondly
Remember the big surprise revelation that Phyllis was MTM’s secret
landlord? And I was sitting there thinking to myself, myself, I was
thinking to, didn’t we already know that? Like since the pilot?
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A Friend
2022-01-09 19:15:26 UTC
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As part of this weekends Decades Binge, they showed eps of
MTM featuring Sueanne Nivans. If memory serves, they gave
the role to Betty White because she had never played a
bitch before and thought the contrast would make Susanne
funnier.
"Frogs". A southern plantation home is overrun by "killer"
frogs. I used the quotes because the only time the frogs
killed anyone was at the end, when they killed the
wheelchair-bound patriarch. Everyone else died by snakes,
iguannas, crabs, and web-spinning tarantulas. Hey, it's
Sam Elliot and JoAnne VanArk!
What did you watch?
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Let'a go Brandon!
I remember reading an interview with MTM back in the day
that said they were brainstorming about who Lars (Cloris
Leachman's never-seen husband on the show) might be having
a affair with for a story line. It was MTM herself (who
was friends with Betty White) suggested Betty for the role
because of her goody two shoes image would be a perfect
surprise for the audience.
Plus it would be a big laugh because of the way the
character had been written as the "perfect glamorous
housewife." Instead of some femme fatale, seemingly sweet
Betty would be the paramour.
Nyssa, who remembers the series fondly
Remember the big surprise revelation that Phyllis was MTM¹s secret
landlord? And I was sitting there thinking to myself, myself, I was
thinking to, didn¹t we already know that? Like since the pilot?
I *thought* we had (didn't we already know that Phyllis and Lars owned
the house?) but maybe the writers were punchy by then. The audience
certainly was.
anim8rfsk
2022-01-09 22:02:49 UTC
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As part of this weekends Decades Binge, they showed eps of
MTM featuring Sueanne Nivans. If memory serves, they gave
the role to Betty White because she had never played a
bitch before and thought the contrast would make Susanne
funnier.
"Frogs". A southern plantation home is overrun by "killer"
frogs. I used the quotes because the only time the frogs
killed anyone was at the end, when they killed the
wheelchair-bound patriarch. Everyone else died by snakes,
iguannas, crabs, and web-spinning tarantulas. Hey, it's
Sam Elliot and JoAnne VanArk!
What did you watch?
--
Let'a go Brandon!
I remember reading an interview with MTM back in the day
that said they were brainstorming about who Lars (Cloris
Leachman's never-seen husband on the show) might be having
a affair with for a story line. It was MTM herself (who
was friends with Betty White) suggested Betty for the role
because of her goody two shoes image would be a perfect
surprise for the audience.
Plus it would be a big laugh because of the way the
character had been written as the "perfect glamorous
housewife." Instead of some femme fatale, seemingly sweet
Betty would be the paramour.
Nyssa, who remembers the series fondly
Remember the big surprise revelation that Phyllis was MTM¹s secret
landlord? And I was sitting there thinking to myself, myself, I was
thinking to, didn¹t we already know that? Like since the pilot?
I *thought* we had (didn't we already know that Phyllis and Lars owned
the house?) but maybe the writers were punchy by then. The audience
certainly was.
Lol
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Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 12:48:25 UTC
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As part of this weekends Decades Binge, they showed eps of
MTM featuring Sueanne Nivans. If memory serves, they gave
the role to Betty White because she had never played a
bitch before and thought the contrast would make Susanne
funnier.
I remember reading an interview with MTM back in the day
that said they were brainstorming about who Lars (Cloris
Leachman's never-seen husband on the show) might be having
a affair with for a story line. It was MTM herself (who
was friends with Betty White) suggested Betty for the role
because of her goody two shoes image would be a perfect
surprise for the audience.
Plus it would be a big laugh because of the way the
character had been written as the "perfect glamorous
housewife." Instead of some femme fatale, seemingly sweet
Betty would be the paramour.
Remember the big surprise revelation that Phyllis was MTM's secret
landlord? And I was sitting there thinking to myself, myself, I was
thinking to, didn't we already know that? Like since the pilot?
You're not the only one!

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anim8rfsk
2022-01-09 21:41:59 UTC
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What did you watch?
Hey, thanks for asking!

CASEY JONES SO1E01 “night train”
Episode one and probably the pilot for the series. This is fairly different
than the regular episodes I’ve been watching and honestly … not very good.
To begin with I have no idea why it’s called “night train“ because none of
it takes place at night.
Casey Junior has a dog named cinders who gets a prominent main cast credit.
I’ve watched about half the other episodes and this is the only time I’ve
seen him.
There’s also an Indian, played by a real Indian, who just seems to hang
around the cannonballs engine car for no real reason I understand. I don’t
know if he just doesn’t have anything better to do or he works for them or
what.

Casey is high balling the cannonball express because he’s got a telegram
that the owner of the line needs to see him in St. Louis fast. This
doesn’t keep his wife from flagging him down in the middle of nowhere so
his son can get his birthday ride. But no dogs are allowed on the train! We
also established that Casey can stop this thing in a real short distance.

The cannonball has its antlers by the way.

Casey meets with the owner of the line. It seems they’re going to go
bankrupt unless they get the lucrative Mail contract. In two days time they
will have to run a race with the evil rail company and whoever gets their
bag of mail from St. Louis to Fort Worth first wins the contract. This
isn’t exactly a fair race given that they are on different lines and the
evil companies line is 25 miles shorter, Not to mention they have a shiny
new engine, the Swamp Tiger, that may be the fastest one around.
Nonetheless this doesn’t keep the evil company from seeking further
advantage by sabotaging both the cannonball and the tracks and trying to
bribe Casey to throw the race (he punches out the guy that does that). The
bad guy is named Mike Nelson. Wasn’t that name in use already in 1957?
Casey Junior wants to go along because this is his birthday present ride.
Wait a minute. We just saw him have his birthday present ride two days
earlier! Casey says no because he sure there will be trouble. But cinders
stows away aboard and Casey Junior is trapped trying to get him off.

The bad guys fill the cannonballs “journal box“ (a grease box) with flint
and steel filings so they’ll catch fire somewhere along the way. Nobody
from the cannonball notices that their train is being serviced by a guy in
the competing companies uniform even though they stop and talk to him.

The race is on! The cannonball express going over the top of the Ozarks and
the Swamp tiger taking the 25 mile shorter flatland route. Who exactly was
the idiot that built the cannonball route in the first place?

By the way it’s 700 miles by car from St. Louis to Fort Worth and their top
speed is 50 miles an hour so there’s no possible way at least some of that
shouldn’t be taking place at night!

At little giant gorge the evil railroad company makes a huge stack of
chopped up telephone poles on the tracks! Luckily Casey can stop the
cannonball on a dime without literally decimating the people on board.

Wait a minute. How did three nefarious bad guys chop a bunch of telephone
poles into quarter length pieces and make a huge stack of them on the
tracks with their bare hands? Much less why is the telegraph still
standing? Casey tells the Indian to get an ax and they’ll somehow clear
this off (yeah, in a couple of days maybe) but the evil bad guys shoot at
them! The conductor shoots back killing at least one of them and Casey Rams
the blockade and they continue on their way! Why didn’t he just do that to
start with?

At crest Junction the cannonball finds that all the wood they were supposed
to take on as fuel has been burned to a dog‘s name. I guess there must be
more than one set of nefarious felons. Casey Junior tells them that the
baggage car is completely full of wooden wagon parts! They can just chop up
all their cargo and use it for fuel!

What a way to run a railroad.

Casey tells the Indian to get the passengers to chop up all the wood in the
baggage car and when that’s done start tearing out the seats.

Wait. They’re carrying passengers? Why the hell are they carrying
passengers and cargo in a race?

The cannonball is back in the race but they are behind the tiger! The only
possible way they can know this is that they are watching the show along
with us and George Burns.

Casey reveals his wacky scheme. The only way to beat the tiger into Fort
Worth is to get off their track and onto the Tigers track. The two tracks
come close to each other at Weldon Crossing. Casey will have his passengers
(now we know why he has passengers) get off the train, rip up 30 feet of
the cannonball track with their bare hands and build a connection and
switch between their track and the evil track. With their bare hands.

Buck Taylor as Newly’s father points out that they’ll still be behind the
Tiger and they’ll be stuck behind them with no way to pass.

Casey has thought of this as well! There’s an old army spur, runs parallel
to the last 12 miles into Fort Worth! The cannonball will stay on the
Tigers tail at the last possible moment make a flying switch!

The Indian points out army spur not use long time unsafe. Casey says it’s
their only chance!

Somehow they get a bunch of picks and shovels and with the help of a boy
and his dog build a new section of railway.

Casey blows the whistle to let the tiger know he’s on its tail!

It’s time for the flying switch which means the Indian jumps off the train,
runs ahead of it, and throws the switch to put the cannonball on the
parallel track!

We then see a series of shots of both trains coming at us which they
accomplish with split screens. It’s like watching the patty duke show!

The cannonball is ahead! Wait, the cannonball is falling behind! The last
car has burst into flame from the sabotaged journal box!

The Indian goes back to cut the last car free! Why didn’t they do that once
they’ve gotten all the wood wagon parts out of it? Somehow he manages to
knock himself unconscious. Suddenly cinders runs out the open rear door and
Casey Junior chases him! Casey Junior releases the flaming car! The
cannonball surges ahead!

It’s neck and neck!

At Fort Worth the cannonball pulls up to the station and hands the mail to
the head of the Postal Service!

Now wait a minute. How the hell did the cannonball get to the station? They
are not on the right track!

Casey announces he’s going to give Casey Junior a savage beating for
disobeying him and stowing away on the train. The Indian says no beat son
son save me save train!

The head of the railroad says instead of giving Casey Junior the savage
beating he so richly deserves he’s going to give him and cinders a lifetime
pass for free travel as honorary engineers on the Cannonball express!
Luckily he carries those in his billfold at all times. It’s number 36.
Does he have these for all the other trains on his line as well?

Cinders barks. Everybody laughs. And they step a few feet forward to a
screen filling sign reading
TRACK RESERVED
FOR THE
CANNONBALL
EXPRESS
CASEY JONES
ENGINEER

Why is the sign on the abandoned army spur? Much less right in the middle
of the track where if the cannonball had gone another 10 feet forward it
would’ve knocked it down?

A
BRISKIN
PRODUCTION

That was… Really something.
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2022-01-09 21:46:02 UTC
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The bad guy is named Mike Nelson. Wasn¹t that name in use already in
1957?
No. Sea Hunt debuted on January 4, 1958.
anim8rfsk
2022-01-10 02:16:15 UTC
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The bad guy is named Mike Nelson. Wasn¹t that name in use already in
1957?
No. Sea Hunt debuted on January 4, 1958.
Actually I meant the guy from MST3K.

(Kidding)

Thanks for looking that up!
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2022-01-10 03:18:31 UTC
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The bad guy is named Mike Nelson. Wasn1t that name in use already in
1957?
No. Sea Hunt debuted on January 4, 1958.
Actually I meant the guy from MST3K.
(Kidding)
Thanks for looking that up!
Happy to. There's not many of us left who remember the real Mike
Nelson (blub blub blub).

There was a time when Sea Hunt was playing about as often as I Love
Lucy, no exaggeration.
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2022-01-10 08:40:51 UTC
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The bad guy is named Mike Nelson. Wasn1t that name in use already in
1957?
No. Sea Hunt debuted on January 4, 1958.
Actually I meant the guy from MST3K.
(Kidding)
Thanks for looking that up!
Happy to. There's not many of us left who remember the real Mike
Nelson (blub blub blub).
There was a time when Sea Hunt was playing about as often as I Love
Lucy, no exaggeration.
I remember. It was all over the place. It was the same your mom gave me the
whole series on DVD.

Something I’d love to track down is the 1986/87 remake with Ron Ely as Mike
Nelson. I’m not completely sure it ever existed. IMDb lists only a pilot
episode with Melissa Sue Anderson as Mike’s hot daughter. But a trailer
exists with Kimber Sissons as Mike’s hot daughter.


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2022-01-10 11:53:03 UTC
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The bad guy is named Mike Nelson. Wasn1t that name in use already in
1957?
No. Sea Hunt debuted on January 4, 1958.
Actually I meant the guy from MST3K.
(Kidding)
Thanks for looking that up!
Happy to. There's not many of us left who remember the real Mike
Nelson (blub blub blub).
There was a time when Sea Hunt was playing about as often as I Love
Lucy, no exaggeration.
I remember. It was all over the place. It was the same your mom gave me the
whole series on DVD.
Something I¹d love to track down is the 1986/87 remake with Ron Ely as Mike
Nelson. I¹m not completely sure it ever existed. IMDb lists only a pilot
episode with Melissa Sue Anderson as Mike¹s hot daughter. But a trailer
exists with Kimber Sissons as Mike¹s hot daughter.
http://youtu.be/pN4pvLk1bSU
Oh, I remember the Ron "Old Superboy" Ely version. It didn't stand a
chance because people remembered the original too fondly. A remake
with Lloyd Bridges's Mike Nelson serving as a mentor to a younger bunch
likely would have done better.
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2022-01-10 15:32:26 UTC
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I remember. It was all over the place. It was the same your mom gave me the
whole series on DVD.
Your speel chucker is doing Your Mama jokes?
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Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 12:46:21 UTC
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"Frogs". A southern plantation home is overrun by "killer" frogs.
I used the quotes because the only time the frogs killed anyone
was at the end, when they killed the wheelchair-bound patriarch.
Everyone else died by snakes, iguannas, crabs, and web-spinning
tarantulas. Hey, it's Sam Elliot and JoAnne VanArk!
There were complaints from the audience that there was nothing in the movie
that resembled the poster. So they added that little animated epilogue.
I do not rememeber seeing an animated epilogue. It ended with the man in a wheelchair covered with about a dozen frogs and the remaining family getting
picked up by a woman and little boy who showed them the frog he found...
Yeah, I rememeber that movie poster. Bronze age comic book covers were more accurate.

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