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[OT] Canada elects ANOTHER Liberal government
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Rhino
2025-04-29 02:37:23 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).

In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.

My only hope is that the Liberals will get a minority government,
meaning they have to have the support of at least one other party to
keep governing. (It doesn't need to be the same other party for each
major vote.) That makes it entirely possible that they will NOT get the
critical support they need at the crucial moment and that will lead to
another election. I am confident that we won't need to see Carney in
office for very long to realize he was a dreadful choice and then we can
finally dump the Liberals at the *next* election. (Minority governments
average 18 months before they fall.)

The big question is whether this country can survive until the next
election. It's staggering how far this country has fallen since Justin
Trudeau was elected in 2015. I don't know if this country can handle any
more Liberal governance....
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Adam H. Kerman
2025-04-29 03:27:48 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.
He made himself popular by standing up to the Trump tariffs, not by any
issues he personally supported. Voters ignored who he truly is, and
voted instead for the theatrical performance.
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Rhino
2025-04-29 13:43:18 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.
He made himself popular by standing up to the Trump tariffs, not by any
issues he personally supported. Voters ignored who he truly is, and
voted instead for the theatrical performance.
I think that's a pretty accurate analysis for a foreigner ;-) Well done,
sir!

All those people who fell for Carney's BS are in for a rude awakening.
They deeply deserve the stress they're going to feel when they realize
that they were duped - again.
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Rhino
Adam H. Kerman
2025-04-29 14:27:15 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.
He made himself popular by standing up to the Trump tariffs, not by any
issues he personally supported. Voters ignored who he truly is, and
voted instead for the theatrical performance.
I think that's a pretty accurate analysis for a foreigner ;-) Well done,
sir!
I've merely read news reports from both the US and BBC, plus the
comments you've been making.
Post by Rhino
All those people who fell for Carney's BS are in for a rude awakening.
They deeply deserve the stress they're going to feel when they realize
that they were duped - again.
Maybe he'll do what he was elected to do?
Rhino
2025-04-29 15:44:41 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.
He made himself popular by standing up to the Trump tariffs, not by any
issues he personally supported. Voters ignored who he truly is, and
voted instead for the theatrical performance.
I think that's a pretty accurate analysis for a foreigner ;-) Well done,
sir!
I've merely read news reports from both the US and BBC, plus the
comments you've been making.
Post by Rhino
All those people who fell for Carney's BS are in for a rude awakening.
They deeply deserve the stress they're going to feel when they realize
that they were duped - again.
Maybe he'll do what he was elected to do?
And maybe pigs will fly....

During the campaign, he promised to make Canada an "energy superpower".
He also spoke in favour of pipelines so that we could get our oil and
natural gas to somewhere other than the US, where we have to sell it
highly discounted to sell it at all. But Quebec is decidedly
unenthusiastic about the pipeline that would run from Alberta to the
East Coast so Carney insisted that Bill-69, which effectively prevents
new pipelines, will NOT be scrapped. Despite that, he claimed to support
pipelines - but carefully hid a few key conditions deep in the fine
print: he will give indigenous people, climate activists and each
province on the proposed route a veto over new pipelines. That
effectively precludes building new pipelines. His proposal to become an
energy superpower is premised solely on the notion that we are going to
export solar power and green hydrogen and such things. But most of the
voters didn't understand that.

The good news is that Carney has a minority government, meaning he HAS
to get the support of other parties to pass any major bills, otherwise
the government falls and we get a new election. Assuming he can't get
the Conservatives to go along with him, he has to have support of the
NDP (what's left of it) or the Bloc Quebecois, which is dedicated to
Quebec independence. The NDP propped up the government this past term
and it cost them dearly: they fell from 23 seats to just 7 and leader
Jagment Singh lost his own seat by finishing third and has already
resigned. I would expect the NDP to be VERY leery about another deal
with the Liberals any time soon!

There's even a distant possibility that the Conservatives and Bloc could
find common cause and defeat the government forcing an election although
it's hard to picture them agreeing on much.

Unfortunately, Pierre Poilievre lost his own seat and it's not clear if
someone else in the Conservative Party will give up the seat they've
just won so that Poilievre can have that. There have already been
pundits saying he should give up the leadership so that a new leader can
be chosen but it's not clear who might replace him. Poilievre is the 3rd
leader of the party since Harper stepped down after the 2015 election
and has been by far the most effective, increasing the seat count
substantially over the past two leaders. But there is a percentage of
the population that doesn't trust him and tries to liken him to Trump. A
new leader would have to be a real dynamo to be able to keep all the
existing seats and build from there without scaring the left-leaning
voters into sticking with the Liberals.

Danny Burstein will be happy that Chrystia Freeland was re-elected to
her seat. It's not clear yet if she will be in the new Cabinet but she
is in Carney's current cabinet so he obviously doesn't hate her. (He is
actually godfather to one of her kids and it was her shock resignation
that was the straw that broke Trudeau's back and forced his resignation,
opening the way for Carney. He ought to be appropriately grateful.)

If Trudeau had stayed on rather than resigning - or if Trump had kept
his yap shut about tariffs until after our election - we would have seen
a VERY different result in this election.
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Rhino
Pluted Pup
2025-04-29 18:00:12 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.
He made himself popular by standing up to the Trump tariffs, not by any
issues he personally supported. Voters ignored who he truly is, and
voted instead for the theatrical performance.
I think that's a pretty accurate analysis for a foreigner ;-) Well done,
sir!
I've merely read news reports from both the US and BBC, plus the
comments you've been making.
Post by Rhino
All those people who fell for Carney's BS are in for a rude awakening.
They deeply deserve the stress they're going to feel when they realize
that they were duped - again.
Maybe he'll do what he was elected to do?
And maybe pigs will fly....
During the campaign, he promised to make Canada an "energy superpower".
He also spoke in favour of pipelines so that we could get our oil and
natural gas to somewhere other than the US, where we have to sell it
highly discounted to sell it at all. But Quebec is decidedly
unenthusiastic about the pipeline that would run from Alberta to the
East Coast so Carney insisted that Bill-69, which effectively prevents
new pipelines, will NOT be scrapped. Despite that, he claimed to support
pipelines - but carefully hid a few key conditions deep in the fine
print: he will give indigenous people, climate activists and each
province on the proposed route a veto over new pipelines. That
effectively precludes building new pipelines. His proposal to become an
energy superpower is premised solely on the notion that we are going to
export solar power and green hydrogen and such things. But most of the
voters didn't understand that.
The good news is that Carney has a minority government, meaning he HAS
to get the support of other parties to pass any major bills, otherwise
the government falls and we get a new election. Assuming he can't get
the Conservatives to go along with him, he has to have support of the
NDP (what's left of it) or the Bloc Quebecois, which is dedicated to
Quebec independence. The NDP propped up the government this past term
and it cost them dearly: they fell from 23 seats to just 7 and leader
Jagment Singh lost his own seat by finishing third and has already
resigned. I would expect the NDP to be VERY leery about another deal
with the Liberals any time soon!
There's even a distant possibility that the Conservatives and Bloc could
find common cause and defeat the government forcing an election although
it's hard to picture them agreeing on much.
Unfortunately, Pierre Poilievre lost his own seat and it's not clear if
someone else in the Conservative Party will give up the seat they've
just won so that Poilievre can have that. There have already been
pundits saying he should give up the leadership so that a new leader can
be chosen but it's not clear who might replace him. Poilievre is the 3rd
leader of the party since Harper stepped down after the 2015 election
and has been by far the most effective, increasing the seat count
substantially over the past two leaders. But there is a percentage of
the population that doesn't trust him and tries to liken him to Trump. A
new leader would have to be a real dynamo to be able to keep all the
existing seats and build from there without scaring the left-leaning
voters into sticking with the Liberals.
Danny Burstein will be happy that Chrystia Freeland was re-elected to
her seat. It's not clear yet if she will be in the new Cabinet but she
is in Carney's current cabinet so he obviously doesn't hate her. (He is
actually godfather to one of her kids and it was her shock resignation
that was the straw that broke Trudeau's back and forced his resignation,
opening the way for Carney. He ought to be appropriately grateful.)
If Trudeau had stayed on rather than resigning - or if Trump had kept
his yap shut about tariffs until after our election - we would have seen
a VERY different result in this election.
What an awesome power this Trump character is, able to
determine Canada's elections at will. Do we suppose the
monopoly media has no influence on Canada's elections
just like it has no effect on politics in the USA?
danny burstein
2025-04-29 18:51:30 UTC
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Danny Burstein will be happy that Chrystia Freeland was re-elected to
her seat. It's not clear yet if she will be in the new Cabinet but she
is in Carney's current cabinet so he obviously doesn't hate her. (He is
actually godfather to one of her kids and it was her shock resignation
that was the straw that broke Trudeau's back and forced his resignation,
opening the way for Carney. He ought to be appropriately grateful.)
If Carney doesn't show her proper appreciation, I'll
be glad to take over...
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Rhino
2025-04-29 18:54:16 UTC
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Danny Burstein will be happy that Chrystia Freeland was re-elected to
her seat. It's not clear yet if she will be in the new Cabinet but she
is in Carney's current cabinet so he obviously doesn't hate her. (He is
actually godfather to one of her kids and it was her shock resignation
that was the straw that broke Trudeau's back and forced his resignation,
opening the way for Carney. He ought to be appropriately grateful.)
If Carney doesn't show her proper appreciation, I'll
be glad to take over...
I'll be sure to share that good news with her ;-)
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Rhino
BTR1701
2025-04-30 22:28:20 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
Yep. Your voters seem to share the same bizarre Helsinki Syndrome that
California voters exhibit, where they reward their abusers with re-election.

Even after the liberal government froze the bank accounts of (actually)
peaceful protesters, arrested journalists in the streets, trampled old ladies
with horses, disarmed the entire population, effectively banned independent
journalists from posting their content on social media platforms, started
pushing for more and more citizens to kill themselves as a solution to life's
normal problems, firmly (and openly) established a 2-tier legal system where
native Canadians can be arrested and jailed for things that migrants (both
legal and illegal) are allowed to say and do with impunity, and declared
martial law over a bunch of truckers whose sole offense was that they didn't
want to be forced to take an experimental medical treatment...

...Canadidians saw all of those things and said, "Yep, give us more of that,
plus a shit-ton more taxes so the weather won't change."

As John Carter said in his election post-mortem:

Have you ever noticed how election results are regularly broken
down geographically as well as by demographic categories of age,
sex, and-- depending on the country-- race, yet we almost never
see the results separated out based on tax-payer vs tax-eater status?

It is absolutely no surprise that Ottawa voted solidly for the Liberal
Party, whose base consists of three primary groups: migrants, public
sector employees, and baby boomers, all of whom are regime client
groups, and all of whom are tightly packed into the nation's capital.

Perhaps it's that it's tax season and I'm in a grumpy mood because I
just got the bad news, but I can't help but wonder about how electoral
politics would change if taxpayers alone were allowed to vote.

Here's a chart that shows the most important factors upon which Canadidians
base their vote, broken out by age.

https://ibb.co/9m943tjh

Notice how for people under 44, reducing the cost of living is their top
consideration when deciding to cast their vote. But for those 60 and over,
their *top* issue facing their country is "dealing with Donald Trump".

In other words, Canadidian seniors are, by and large, not even pretending to
be interested in the affairs and issues facing their own country. They don't
seem to be concerned about the fact that young people are overdosing in
ever-increasing rates or that a not insignificant number of them are well into
their 30s, crammed into tiny apartments, shared with roommates just to make
ends meet.

What they care about instead is "dealing with Donald Trump", an elected
official in a different country who has not caused a single ounce of the
misery that Canadia has been enduring for the last decade or more. And what do
they mean by "dealing with him"? Are they trying to elect globalists that will
send equally mean tweets back at Trump when he launches his 3AM toilet
missives?

It's a sobering realization, but it's true: Countries like the UK, Australia,
and Canadia, who have been traditionally allied with us through our shared
culture and values are moving farther and farther away from that benchmark
with us. No longer do any of these countries have a functioning conservative
movement.

With every election that takes place in Canadia and every humiliating hearing
on the dangers of white supremacy that Parliament entertains while muezzins
literally wail away on loudspeakers right across the street and traffic is
brought to gridlock five times a day by thousands of Muslims kneeling in
prayer in the middle of the road, the truth becomes more clear by the day and
it's time to admit it: the future of conservatism and thus of Western
civilization is in our hands and, increasingly, our hands alone.
Rhino
2025-05-01 03:08:00 UTC
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At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).
Yep. Your voters seem to share the same bizarre Helsinki Syndrome that
California voters exhibit, where they reward their abusers with re-election.
Even after the liberal government froze the bank accounts of (actually)
peaceful protesters, arrested journalists in the streets, trampled old ladies
with horses, disarmed the entire population, effectively banned independent
journalists from posting their content on social media platforms, started
pushing for more and more citizens to kill themselves as a solution to life's
normal problems, firmly (and openly) established a 2-tier legal system where
native Canadians can be arrested and jailed for things that migrants (both
legal and illegal) are allowed to say and do with impunity, and declared
martial law over a bunch of truckers whose sole offense was that they didn't
want to be forced to take an experimental medical treatment...
...Canadidians saw all of those things and said, "Yep, give us more of that,
plus a shit-ton more taxes so the weather won't change."
Not *everything* you've said so far is 100% correct - for example, 95%
of the truckers had been vaccinated but still launched the protest on
the grounds of principle - but that's a nitpick: the gist of what you've
said is very largely correct.
Who is John Carter? I've never heard of a pundit by that name, just a
character in Edgar Rice Burroughs and ER.
Post by BTR1701
Have you ever noticed how election results are regularly broken
down geographically as well as by demographic categories of age,
sex, and-- depending on the country-- race, yet we almost never
see the results separated out based on tax-payer vs tax-eater status?
It is absolutely no surprise that Ottawa voted solidly for the Liberal
Party, whose base consists of three primary groups: migrants, public
sector employees, and baby boomers, all of whom are regime client
groups, and all of whom are tightly packed into the nation's capital.
Perhaps it's that it's tax season and I'm in a grumpy mood because I
just got the bad news, but I can't help but wonder about how electoral
politics would change if taxpayers alone were allowed to vote.
Here's a chart that shows the most important factors upon which Canadidians
base their vote, broken out by age.
https://ibb.co/9m943tjh
Notice how for people under 44, reducing the cost of living is their top
consideration when deciding to cast their vote. But for those 60 and over,
their *top* issue facing their country is "dealing with Donald Trump".
In other words, Canadidian seniors are, by and large, not even pretending to
be interested in the affairs and issues facing their own country. They don't
seem to be concerned about the fact that young people are overdosing in
ever-increasing rates or that a not insignificant number of them are well into
their 30s, crammed into tiny apartments, shared with roommates just to make
ends meet.
What they care about instead is "dealing with Donald Trump", an elected
official in a different country who has not caused a single ounce of the
misery that Canadia has been enduring for the last decade or more. And what do
they mean by "dealing with him"? Are they trying to elect globalists that will
send equally mean tweets back at Trump when he launches his 3AM toilet
missives?
Carney and the Liberals targeted seniors hard. They even planted
questions at Trump's press conferences to make Trump reassert his 51st
state rhetoric whenever the Conservatives started to close the gap just
to remind seniors - who are famous for voting much more than young
people in this country - about the threat from Trump.
Post by BTR1701
It's a sobering realization, but it's true: Countries like the UK, Australia,
and Canadia, who have been traditionally allied with us through our shared
culture and values are moving farther and farther away from that benchmark
with us. No longer do any of these countries have a functioning conservative
movement.
Actually, the Conservative Party upped its number of seats substantially
in this election by roughly 20 seats and grew substantially in the GTA
(Greater Toronto Area, the suburbs and cities on all sides of Toronto
except the south, which is Lake Ontario). But it wasn't quite enough to
catch up with the Liberals.

The Liberals benefited heavily by the collapse of the NDP (in theory,
farther left that the Liberals but today's Liberals are so "progressive"
it's almost impossible to detect a difference), which went from 23 seats
down to 7. The NDP actually lost official party status, which means they
lose the extra "support" that "official" parties get. I believe that
means they've lost dedicated staff supported by the taxpayers. The Bloc
Quebecois also lost about 10 of its 33 seats. A lot of those lost seats
went to the Liberals because the threat from Trump was seen as so
existential that people felt they had to go with the Liberals rather
than the smaller parties.
Post by BTR1701
With every election that takes place in Canadia and every humiliating hearing
on the dangers of white supremacy that Parliament entertains while muezzins
literally wail away on loudspeakers right across the street and traffic is
brought to gridlock five times a day by thousands of Muslims kneeling in
prayer in the middle of the road, the truth becomes more clear by the day and
it's time to admit it: the future of conservatism and thus of Western
civilization is in our hands and, increasingly, our hands alone.
I'm not aware of Muslims blocking the streets to pray although I know
that we had issues with school bus drivers pausing in the middle of
their runs to leave the bus and pray at the side of the road, which may
have obstructed traffic too. But I haven't been in Ottawa in a long time
so you may be right about roads getting blocked and muezzins doing their
thing opposite Parliament. That wasn't happening 20 years ago when I was
last in Ottawa but we've brought in a lot of Muslims since then and many
of them wound up in Ottawa.

But the broader point is certainly valid. The West NEEDS conservatives
(and Conservatives) to fix this. The "progressives" certainly aren't
going to do it.

You have no idea how discouraged many of us are over the election
result. Any number of people have said they're going to look for another
country to live in because this country is becoming intolerable and
getting worse by the day. People in the West, especially Alberta and
Saskatchewan are probably just days from launching a formal movement to
separate from Canada entirely - and I don't blame them. I may just move
out West to join them if they get something organized.

You may find Jordan Peterson's reaction to the election - and the
comments beneath it - illuminating:

[12 minutes]
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Rhino
BTR1701
2025-05-01 03:23:03 UTC
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With every election that takes place in Canadia and every humiliating hearing
on the dangers of white supremacy that Parliament entertains while muezzins
literally wail away on loudspeakers right across the street and traffic is
brought to gridlock five times a day by thousands of Muslims kneeling in
prayer in the middle of the road, the truth becomes more clear by the day and
it's time to admit it: the future of conservatism and thus of Western
civilization is in our hands and, increasingly, our hands alone.
I'm not aware of Muslims blocking the streets to pray
I was referencing the UK Parliament. I can see that wasn't clear. Apologies.

Praying in the streets-- as if there aren't enough mosques in London-- and
blocking traffic has become the latest way the Muslims are asserting their
control of the culture in Britain. It's a power move over the native
population and the government doesn't do anything to stop it.

https://ibb.co/5XgJ68pm
Rhino
2025-05-01 11:25:11 UTC
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With every election that takes place in Canadia and every humiliating hearing
on the dangers of white supremacy that Parliament entertains while muezzins
literally wail away on loudspeakers right across the street and traffic is
brought to gridlock five times a day by thousands of Muslims kneeling in
prayer in the middle of the road, the truth becomes more clear by the day and
it's time to admit it: the future of conservatism and thus of Western
civilization is in our hands and, increasingly, our hands alone.
I'm not aware of Muslims blocking the streets to pray
I was referencing the UK Parliament. I can see that wasn't clear. Apologies.
I wasn't aware that it was happening in the UK but I can't say I'm
surprised. And if it's happening there and nothing is being done to
resist, we can pretty much count on it happening here. In fact, they
already have regular demonstrations - at which they pray - about Gaza,
where the police ignore the laws and protect them just down the road in
Toronto.

When it does start happening here, our legacy media will ignore it or,
in a pinch, gush about how it shows what a welcoming country we are and
how this is a great advance for diversity while the rest of us fume
helplessly. (With Carney winning a mandate, I'm going to bet that he
re-instates the bill that was going to regulate the internet so that our
police focus on catching "thought criminals" from social media rather
than murderers, car thieves and the like. We are SO fucked!)
Post by BTR1701
Praying in the streets-- as if there aren't enough mosques in London-- and
blocking traffic has become the latest way the Muslims are asserting their
control of the culture in Britain. It's a power move over the native
population and the government doesn't do anything to stop it.
https://ibb.co/5XgJ68pm
Hmm. I'm not sure if that picture is from the UK. The store in the near
background says "Pharmacie Myrna". That's how they spell "pharmacy" in
France and the French half of Belgium. Of course someone in Britain may
have imitated that spelling because "it looks cooler". I believe France
has a larger percentage of Muslims than the UK. But our Muslims are
bound to notice that their Muslims are getting away with these things
and follow suit. On that we can rely.

Bottom line: if we don't start deporting the radicals soon, they may be
in charge within a few years. They're dangerously close now.
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Rhino
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