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2024-11-16 12:26:32 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH

NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM

The following contains spoilers from the Nov. 11 episode of CBS‘ NCIS:
Origins.

NCIS: Origins this week took steps towards establishing why the story that
narrator Gibbs is telling us about “her” aka Special Agent Lala Dominguez
resonates with him to this day.

Along the way, we briefly laid eyes on a young version of a character who
would appear in the NCIS mothership’s very first episode, and pop up now
and again to this day.

As Gibbs (Mark Harmon) shared in this episode’s opening narration, Lala
(played by Mariel Molino) would at some future point confide in him that
she felt trapped in a “box,” and one that seems to be growing smaller.
Things such as Franks (Kyle Schmid) suggesting she is a “workplace
distraction” for Gibbs (Austin Stowell) clearly weigh on her. Lala, though,
is in no rush to let “probie” know what she is feeling. Rather, she’s still
irked about last week’s case, during which Gibbs drew his gun on two
nobodies who were giving her a hard time.

Lala heads out with Vera (Diany Rodriguez) and Mary Jo (Tyla Abercrombie)
for a “girls night,” to celebrate the former getting a green light for her
profiling program. When Lala gets paged regarding NIS work, she heads to
her car — only to have the guy she was kinda dancing with follow her and
climb into the passenger seat uninvited. Lala tells the guy to get out,
noting that she has work to do (and a boyfriend). But then a switch “flips”
for her, and she suddenly pulls the stranger in for a kiss (and more?).

Lala is not herself upon reporting to the crime scene with smeared
lipstick, and is notably “off” that whole night and day after. (No, Gibbs,
offering a bowl of cereal won’t cure what ails her.) But they proceed to
investigate the murder, which was made to look like suicide, of a Navy wonk
who had access to military secrets.

Along the way, Franks asks SAC Wheeler (Patrick Fischler) to lean on his
FBI contact for information the bureau has on the likely buyer. When Franks
and Wheeler meet up with the FBI source at a Mexican restaurant
well-populated by LEOs, the G-man waves over his young colleague “Tobias” —
as in Fornell! The young version of Joe Spano’s NCIS character, whom Gibbs
will first meet in the NCIS series premiere, is played by Lucas Dixon,
whose previous TV credits include episodes of The Tick and Blindspot.

“In 1991, Agent Fornell is an affable underling who’s still finding his
footing at the Bureau,” reads the official character description obtained
by TVLine.

When the opportunity presents itself for Gibbs to pose as the man buying
the stolen Navy intel, Lala tags along to coach “probie” through his first
undercover op. And boy, does nervous Gibbs need the assist. With a glam
Lala posing as Gibbs’ date at an exclusive bar, the two watch for the
seller. There are sudden embraces (to dodge Gibbs’ dentist!) and the
cupping of faces (to see the cover). Soon enough, Gibbs is invited to meet
with the seller in a back room — both agents unaware that their SWAT team
backup just got pulled away to another gig. So when Lala repeatedly uses
the “congratulations” code word to signal SWAT’s breach… nothing happens.
And this being 1991, the wire Lala’s wearing is only one-way. When Gibbs’
briefcase full of “show me” money counts up light, the seller and his goons
smell a rat. Gibbs thinks fast and holds an ice pick, which had been deftly
slipped to him by “tipsy” Lala, to the seller’s neck, while Lala manages to
snatch a gun and pick off the goon who has a pistol aimed at her partner.

Afterwards, we see Lala overhearing NIS locker room talk about how hot she
looked in her undercover dress — but she does what she always does,
“deflects” it with equally inappropriate jabs of her own. That is the “box”
she finds herself trapped in.

Or, at least one of them.

Because it then becomes clear that she feels to also be inside a “box” at
home, into which her beau has been trying to move. And before the episode
ends, we see Lala start to tell him about the parking lot hook-up, and
presumably then give him his walking papers.
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Ian J. Ball
2024-11-16 18:02:24 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going to
have to explain it...
suzeeq
2024-11-16 18:42:35 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going to
have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Ian J. Ball
2024-11-16 18:57:22 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going to
have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
suzeeq
2024-11-16 19:28:04 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
FBIs Fornell.
shawn
2024-11-16 19:29:16 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going to
have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
The article spelled it explicitly in that they introduced Agent
Fornell. It won't mean a thing for people who aren't NCIS fans, but
it's again showing the origins of what we come to know in NCIS.
There's Gibb's original favorite and mentor from the NIS days, and now
FBI agent Fornell.
suzeeq
2024-11-16 19:53:01 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Ian J. Ball
2024-11-16 20:04:10 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
suzeeq
2024-11-16 21:38:24 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
I dunno that they did meet before the time frame of theat series.
anim8rfsk
2024-11-17 01:14:39 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.

So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.

Now, yes, later episodes of NCIS ignore YANKEE WHITE as well. With never
any attempt at explanation or reconciliation that I am aware of.

But I’m not saying that ORIGINS conflicts with NCIS post YANKEE WHITE. I am
saying that ORIGINS is not in continuity with YANKEE WHITE.
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suzeeq
2024-11-17 02:05:52 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
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Now, yes, later episodes of NCIS ignore YANKEE WHITE as well. With never
any attempt at explanation or reconciliation that I am aware of.
But I’m not saying that ORIGINS conflicts with NCIS post YANKEE WHITE. I am
saying that ORIGINS is not in continuity with YANKEE WHITE.
anim8rfsk
2024-11-17 06:31:50 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
I just used my free Paramount+ preview to watch it so you don’t have to!

Fornell is introduced to Ducky and Gibbs as the ME and the ME’s assistant.

There is no sign of recognition between any of them.
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Now, yes, later episodes of NCIS ignore YANKEE WHITE as well. With never
any attempt at explanation or reconciliation that I am aware of.
But I’m not saying that ORIGINS conflicts with NCIS post YANKEE WHITE. I am
saying that ORIGINS is not in continuity with YANKEE WHITE.
--
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2024-11-17 06:31:53 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.

He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.

He also knew which of Gibbs wives is which number and actually had Mark
Harmen himself confirm wife number four.
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2024-11-17 15:56:45 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?


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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
\
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
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2024-11-18 09:09:25 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
\
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
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2024-11-18 18:39:15 UTC
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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
\
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
:p
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2024-11-19 17:58:18 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)

There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
shawn
2024-11-19 20:21:15 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
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2024-11-22 04:21:11 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
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2024-11-22 12:31:42 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
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2024-11-27 10:08:09 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
I was of course talking about climate. Is the weather dramatically
different between Tucson and Phoenix?
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2024-12-17 21:10:11 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
I was of course talking about climate. Is the weather dramatically
different between Tucson and Phoenix?
I think we are hotter
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2024-12-17 21:27:27 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
I was of course talking about climate. Is the weather dramatically
different between Tucson and Phoenix?
I think we are hotter
At least this month it looks like Phoenix is averaging a degree or two
warmer than Tucson. So not dramatically different which makes sense as
it is only about 100 miles between the two cities, but Phoenix is
around 1000 feet above sea level while Tucson is about 2000 feet above
sea level. That difference in height above sea level likely makes the
bigger difference in temps than where they sit geologically.
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2024-12-18 20:25:17 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
I was of course talking about climate. Is the weather dramatically
different between Tucson and Phoenix?
I think we are hotter
At least this month it looks like Phoenix is averaging a degree or two
warmer than Tucson. So not dramatically different which makes sense as
it is only about 100 miles between the two cities, but Phoenix is
around 1000 feet above sea level while Tucson is about 2000 feet above
sea level. That difference in height above sea level likely makes the
bigger difference in temps than where they sit geologically.
Yes
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BTR1701
2024-11-28 19:12:25 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
I see what you mean:

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1861870723859648783
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2024-12-17 21:10:12 UTC
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I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Sheesh.. Sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happens but hope you
get back to normal soon (or at least what passes for your normal.)
That's easy - just leave your package of insulin in the back of your
car when returning from the pharmacy overnight on a hot summer day.
(Or have the delivery truck serving the pharmacy do the same)
There's a reason it's normally kept in the refrigerator.
Well that's certainly a possibility in Phoenix.
Been there done that in Vancouver. Never been in Phoenix though I
doubt it's radically different from Tucson which I have been to.
Tucson is our low rent halfwit cousin.
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1861870723859648783
And there it is.
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2024-11-18 15:05:59 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?>>
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Oh dear. Hope it gets better for you soon.
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2024-11-18 18:39:16 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard the
episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as NCIS but
as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS; apparently
Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell will meet they
have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?>>
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Oh dear. Hope it gets better for you soon.
They just set up a physical therapy schedule for me so I guess they think
I’m gonna be here a while.

On the other hand, I’ve got sharp pains in my abdomen this morning
requiring x-rays.
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2024-11-18 21:07:02 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and ?
Surprise! ? Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're
going to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he
Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after
the pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes
Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard
the episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as
NCIS but as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever
forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS;
apparently Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell
will meet they have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
\
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Geez! Glad you're semi-okay!

Get well soon. The froup relies on your platinum-quality snarks
especially since the TV content these days deserves that snark so
very much.

Nyssa, who thinks Big Pharma needs to upgrade their QA procedures
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and ?
Surprise! ? Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're
going to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it,
please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he
Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after
the pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes
Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard
the episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as
NCIS but as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever
forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS;
apparently Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell
will meet they have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Geez! Glad you're semi-okay!
Get well soon. The froup relies on your platinum-quality snarks
especially since the TV content these days deserves that snark so
very much.
Nyssa, who thinks Big Pharma needs to upgrade their QA procedures
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were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and ?
Surprise! ? Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're
going to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain
it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how
Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE
WHITE. Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first
episode after the pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate
and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am
in a rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room
heard the episode start up and not only recognized it just from the
sound as NCIS but as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than
Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS;
apparently Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell
will meet they have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Geez! Glad you're semi-okay!
Get well soon. The froup relies on your platinum-quality snarks
especially since the TV content these days deserves that snark so
very much.
Nyssa, who thinks Big Pharma needs to upgrade their QA procedures
Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a long while. I had despaired that
you were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
Thanks for the re-welcome!

Multiple computer hardware and a couple of software problems have
caused cascading headaches since mid-August. Even now, I'm stuck using
a laptop with a wonky "e" key just to check email and Usenet while
I attempt to trace down the hardware problems on TWO desktops that
decided to turn ornery one after another. :/

I'll keep trying to get one of the desktops working while cussing
at this danged crappy HP laptop keyboard and it's wonky "e" key
until I get *something* else working correctly.

And no, I'll NOT be getting a "new" desktop unless I can find one
configured the way I want it without any taint of a Microsoft
product or paying a Microsoft tax for an OS I will never use. :P

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NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and ?
Surprise! ? Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're
going to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain
it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how
Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE
WHITE. Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first
episode after the pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate
and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am
in a rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room
heard the episode start up and not only recognized it just from the
sound as NCIS but as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than
Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS;
apparently Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell
will meet they have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Geez! Glad you're semi-okay!
Get well soon. The froup relies on your platinum-quality snarks
especially since the TV content these days deserves that snark so
very much.
Nyssa, who thinks Big Pharma needs to upgrade their QA procedures
Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a long while. I had despaired that
you were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
Thanks for the re-welcome!
Multiple computer hardware and a couple of software problems have
caused cascading headaches since mid-August. Even now, I'm stuck using
a laptop with a wonky "e" key just to check email and Usenet while
I attempt to trace down the hardware problems on TWO desktops that
decided to turn ornery one after another. :/
I'll keep trying to get one of the desktops working while cussing
at this danged crappy HP laptop keyboard and it's wonky "e" key
until I get *something* else working correctly.
I myself had to endure the demise of the Mac Pro desktop I've been using since
circa 2013. It was frozen in time on an old version of Mac OS X because if I
upgraded the OS any farther, my newsreader (MT Newswatcher) and Finale 2009
(the music engraving software I use to make some side money) would stop
working. (I had a newer Mac mini running in another room with the latest
version of the Mac OS for all my other computing activities.)

Back at the end of October, on a sunny Saturday morning, the power went out on
our block for approximately 1.5 seconds. Not even long enough to send the
clocks back to flashing 12:00. But it was long enough to crash that old Mac
and when I tried to reboot it, I got the Apple logo and the progress bar but
it would then stop halfway through the boot-up process and after about 10
minutes, it would just shut itself off again. Took it in to the Apple Store
and they couldn't get it to boot, either. They speculated that the power shut
off right at the moment the computer was writing/modifying a system file which
caused the file to be corrupted. Only option was to completely over-write the
hard drive with a fresh OS install, but that would cost me all the data on the
drive.

Of course, according to the laws of the universe, this hit at a time when I'd
been uncharacteristically lax in backing up my files. I had about eight film
score cues that I'd engraved that I hadn't backed up to the other Mac or to my
Google cloud drive. Eight doesn't sound like much but it represents about a
month's worth of work that I do not relish having to redo.

I had resigned myself that something like this would happen eventually. The
computer was a dinosaur, after all, so all I really want are those files. I
bought a hard drive dock off Amazon for $25 and I'm going to open up the old
machine and remove the drive and put it into this dock and plug it into my
more modern Mac with the hope that it will mount as an external non-system
disk which will bypass the corrupted system file and I can pull all those data
files off it without having to redo them all.

And yes, MT Newswatcher is now history for me. I'm using Usenapp on the newer
machine now, which is fine, but I really liked Newswatcher's interface the
best. Sad to see it go.
Post by Nyssa
And no, I'll NOT be getting a "new" desktop unless I can find one
configured the way I want it without any taint of a Microsoft
product or paying a Microsoft tax for an OS I will never use. :P
Nyssa, who has been on Usenet since 1986 and would give up the www
before she'd give up Usenet
Adam H. Kerman
2024-11-19 02:42:55 UTC
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. . .
I had resigned myself that something like this would happen eventually. The
computer was a dinosaur, after all, so all I really want are those files. I
bought a hard drive dock off Amazon for $25 and I'm going to open up the old
machine and remove the drive and put it into this dock and plug it into my
more modern Mac with the hope that it will mount as an external non-system
disk which will bypass the corrupted system file and I can pull all those data
files off it without having to redo them all.
Can you run Virtual Box as a way to run the old operating system you
need for the engraving application?
Post by BTR1701
. . .
BTR1701
2024-11-19 02:58:53 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
. . .
I had resigned myself that something like this would happen eventually. The
computer was a dinosaur, after all, so all I really want are those files. I
bought a hard drive dock off Amazon for $25 and I'm going to open up the old
machine and remove the drive and put it into this dock and plug it into my
more modern Mac with the hope that it will mount as an external non-system
disk which will bypass the corrupted system file and I can pull all those data
files off it without having to redo them all.
Can you run Virtual Box as a way to run the old operating system you
need for the engraving application?
Possibly, but it's easier just to migrate to Finale 25. It runs on the new
machine. The only reason I resisted for so long is that the parent
company--MakeMusic-- completely revamped the entire interface for Finale after
the 2014 release. All the functions are in different menus and are applied in
different ways. Some of it is an improvement, other changes are like, WTF? Why
did they do that? I now have to navigate three sub-menus to do things I was
doing with a single keystroke in 2009 version.

After using it for a month now, I'm getting the hang of it to the point where
I'm almost as efficient as I was with the old version.

Of course, as per the laws of the universe, just as I'm learning this upgrade,
MakeMusic has announced they're discontinuing Finale altogether:


https://www.finalemusic.com/blog/end-of-finale-new-journey-dorico-letter-from-president/

The End of Finale

35 years ago, Coda Music Technologies, now MakeMusic, released the first
version of Finale, a groundbreaking and user-centered approach to notation
software. For over four decades, our engineers and product teams have
passionately crafted what would quickly become the gold standard for music
notation.

Four decades is a very long time in the software industry. Technology stacks
change, Mac and Windows operating systems evolve, and Finale's millions of
lines of code add up. This has made the delivery of incremental value for our
customers exponentially harder over time.

Today, Finale is no longer the future of the notation industry-- a reality
after 35 years, and I want to be candid about this. Instead of releasing new
versions of Finale that would offer only marginal value to our users, we’ve
made the decision to end its development.

Effective immediately, we are announcing these changes:

There will be no further updates to Finale, or any of its associated tools
(PrintMusic, Notepad, Songwriter)

It is no longer possible to purchase or upgrade Finale in the MakeMusic
eStore

Finale will continue to work on devices where it is currently installed
(barring OS changes)

After one year, beginning August 2025, these changes will go into effect:

It will not be possible to authorize Finale on any new devices, or reauthorize
Finale

Technical support for Finale v27 or any other version of Finale will no longer
be available


A New Journey with Dorico

There is, however, a new future for the notation industry: Dorico, developed
by Steinberg, the creators of Cubase and a subsidiary of Yamaha.

Many have competed with Finale over the past four decades, enabling positive
and healthy stimulation leading to incremental innovations, but when Dorico
launched in 2016, it set a brand new bar for the industry. The dozens of quick
releases since then have demonstrated the Dorico team's passion, dedication,
expertise, and long-term commitment-- qualities that have been the foundation
of Finale's DNA and success.

While Finale development has come to an end, we know your musical journey has
not. I want to sincerely express our warm and deep gratitude to all of our
loyal and passionate users. Our entire organization thanks you for your trust,
and we believe you have a bright new phase of creativity, productivity, and
efficiency ahead with Dorico.

To ensure that Finale users continue to have access to the most advanced and
efficient tools available, MakeMusic has partnered with Steinberg to offer an
exclusive discount on Dorico Pro.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-11-19 03:56:32 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
. . .
I had resigned myself that something like this would happen
eventually. The computer was a dinosaur, after all, so all I really
want are those files. I bought a hard drive dock off Amazon for $25
and I'm going to open up the old machine and remove the drive and put
it into this dock and plug it into my more modern Mac with the hope
that it will mount as an external non-system disk which will bypass
the corrupted system file and I can pull all those data files off it
without having to redo them all.
Can you run Virtual Box as a way to run the old operating system you
need for the engraving application?
Possibly, but it's easier just to migrate to Finale 25. It runs on the
new machine. The only reason I resisted for so long is that the parent
company--MakeMusic-- completely revamped the entire interface for Finale
after the 2014 release. All the functions are in different menus and are
applied in different ways. Some of it is an improvement, other changes are
like, WTF? Why did they do that? I now have to navigate three sub-menus
to do things I was doing with a single keystroke in 2009 version.
After using it for a month now, I'm getting the hang of it to the point where
I'm almost as efficient as I was with the old version.
Of course, as per the laws of the universe, just as I'm learning this upgrade,
https://www.finalemusic.com/blog/end-of-finale-new-journey-dorico-letter-from-president/
The End of Finale
Ouch

At least they resisted the obvious pun.

I hope you'll be able t cntinue your work.
Post by BTR1701
. . .
BTR1701
2024-11-19 04:32:21 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
. . .
I had resigned myself that something like this would happen
eventually. The computer was a dinosaur, after all, so all I really
want are those files. I bought a hard drive dock off Amazon for $25
and I'm going to open up the old machine and remove the drive and put
it into this dock and plug it into my more modern Mac with the hope
that it will mount as an external non-system disk which will bypass
the corrupted system file and I can pull all those data files off it
without having to redo them all.
Can you run Virtual Box as a way to run the old operating system you
need for the engraving application?
Possibly, but it's easier just to migrate to Finale 25. It runs on the
new machine. The only reason I resisted for so long is that the parent
company--MakeMusic-- completely revamped the entire interface for Finale
after the 2014 release. All the functions are in different menus and are
applied in different ways. Some of it is an improvement, other changes are
like, WTF? Why did they do that? I now have to navigate three sub-menus
to do things I was doing with a single keystroke in 2009 version.
After using it for a month now, I'm getting the hang of it to the point where
I'm almost as efficient as I was with the old version.
Of course, as per the laws of the universe, just as I'm learning this upgrade,
https://www.finalemusic.com/blog/end-of-finale-new-journey-dorico-letter-from-president/
The End of Finale
Ouch
At least they resisted the obvious pun.
I hope you'll be able to continue your work.
Well, I took their offer and downloaded the Dorico cross-grade. I'm leery of
it, however. It's still relatively new, so I don't know how robust it is in
terms of being able to do the advanced non-traditional notation that's
frequently found in film music. You may be able to produce a beautiful Chopin
etude but can it do 'Sub-Level 3' from ALIENS:

https://ibb.co/PWmQR8f

Not sure.

It also supposedly upends the entire paradigm of music notation software
interface. There are oodles of YouTube tutorials but having to re-learn
something so complicated from the ground up does not fill me with enthusiasm.
The company I do this work for has already emailed me telling me to hold off
because Dorico files aren't compatible with their systems.
Nyssa
2024-11-19 21:45:46 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and ?
Surprise! ? Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear,
you're going to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just
explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize
the character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of
how he and Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the
NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE
WHITE. Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first
episode after the pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate
and memory holes Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I
am in a rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the
room heard the episode start up and not only recognized it just
from the sound as NCIS but as Yankee White, he knew more About the
show than Ian will ever forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS;
apparently Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and
Furnell will meet they have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Geez! Glad you're semi-okay!
Get well soon. The froup relies on your platinum-quality snarks
especially since the TV content these days deserves that snark so
very much.
Nyssa, who thinks Big Pharma needs to upgrade their QA procedures
Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a long while. I had despaired
that you were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
Thanks for the re-welcome!
Multiple computer hardware and a couple of software problems have
caused cascading headaches since mid-August. Even now, I'm stuck using
a laptop with a wonky "e" key just to check email and Usenet while
I attempt to trace down the hardware problems on TWO desktops that
decided to turn ornery one after another. :/
I'll keep trying to get one of the desktops working while cussing
at this danged crappy HP laptop keyboard and it's wonky "e" key
until I get *something* else working correctly.
I myself had to endure the demise of the Mac Pro desktop I've been using
since circa 2013. It was frozen in time on an old version of Mac OS X
because if I upgraded the OS any farther, my newsreader (MT Newswatcher)
and Finale 2009 (the music engraving software I use to make some side
money) would stop working. (I had a newer Mac mini running in another room
with the latest version of the Mac OS for all my other computing
activities.)
Back at the end of October, on a sunny Saturday morning, the power went
out on our block for approximately 1.5 seconds. Not even long enough to
send the
clocks back to flashing 12:00. But it was long enough to crash that old
Mac and when I tried to reboot it, I got the Apple logo and the progress
bar but it would then stop halfway through the boot-up process and after
about 10 minutes, it would just shut itself off again. Took it in to the
Apple Store and they couldn't get it to boot, either. They speculated that
the power shut off right at the moment the computer was writing/modifying
a system file which caused the file to be corrupted. Only option was to
completely over-write the hard drive with a fresh OS install, but that
would cost me all the data on the drive.
Of course, according to the laws of the universe, this hit at a time when
I'd been uncharacteristically lax in backing up my files. I had about
eight film score cues that I'd engraved that I hadn't backed up to the
other Mac or to my Google cloud drive. Eight doesn't sound like much but
it represents about a month's worth of work that I do not relish having to
redo.
I had resigned myself that something like this would happen eventually.
The computer was a dinosaur, after all, so all I really want are those
files. I bought a hard drive dock off Amazon for $25 and I'm going to open
up the old machine and remove the drive and put it into this dock and plug
it into my more modern Mac with the hope that it will mount as an external
non-system disk which will bypass the corrupted system file and I can pull
all those data files off it without having to redo them all.
And yes, MT Newswatcher is now history for me. I'm using Usenapp on the
newer machine now, which is fine, but I really liked Newswatcher's
interface the best. Sad to see it go.
Post by Nyssa
And no, I'll NOT be getting a "new" desktop unless I can find one
configured the way I want it without any taint of a Microsoft
product or paying a Microsoft tax for an OS I will never use. :P
I feel your pain.

I've got similar problems with retrieving data fromthe hard
drives of the first of the two desktops to quit. I had taken
the drives and tried to put one of them into the then-working
desktop, but only got my home directory copied over before, as
amim would say, wackiness ensuded. None of my "real" data has
been transfered yet.

As for older software, I've got a full tower desktop I built
back in the mid-1990s (with an MMX processor) that I keep
running with MS-DOS and Win3.1 in order to access my financial
software, the word processor AmiPro, and PatternMaker design
software. Plus an older version of CorelDraw I did a lot of work
on.

I used to have a side gig for well over a decade doing counted
thread embroidery designs that I published and/or sold for
publication in hobby magazines. All of my work archives for
those are in AmiPro, PatternMaker, and CorelDraw5. Two of the
three are no longer published (AmiPro was first purchased by
Lotus who did a good job maintaining it, but later sold it
along with Lotus123 to IBM who rewrote them (WordPro) then
abandoned it all; PatternMaker was published by a one-programmer
shop and was abandoned after version 4). I still use AmiPro for
my knitting pattern translations (from German and charts)
for my personal use. Best danged word processor EVAH!

I'll get back to trying to revive at least one of the newer
desktops and getting the data transfered once I can catch up
on a list of other to-dos that need doing before winter weather
gets here.

Meanwhile I can at least still post to Usenet and deal with
email with this stoopid HP laptop with its wonky "e" key and
a capslock key that's too close to the "a" key that I keep hitting
my mistake. :/

Look on the bright side with your engraving software; if your
older Mac hadn't bit the dust, you wouldn't have grabbed a newer
version of the software before they took it off the market. At
least you've stil got *something* that will get the job done for
now.

Nyssa, who has gobs of old software that works just fine provided
you can find a working copy of the right OS to run it AND a floppy
drive to load it onto the hard drive
shawn
2024-11-19 22:30:17 UTC
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Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a long while. I had despaired
that you were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
Thanks for the re-welcome!
Indeed, welcome back
Post by Nyssa
Post by Nyssa
Multiple computer hardware and a couple of software problems have
caused cascading headaches since mid-August. Even now, I'm stuck using
a laptop with a wonky "e" key just to check email and Usenet while
I attempt to trace down the hardware problems on TWO desktops that
decided to turn ornery one after another. :/
As for older software, I've got a full tower desktop I built
back in the mid-1990s (with an MMX processor) that I keep
running with MS-DOS and Win3.1 in order to access my financial
software, the word processor AmiPro, and PatternMaker design
software. Plus an older version of CorelDraw I did a lot of work
on.
I used to have a side gig for well over a decade doing counted
thread embroidery designs that I published and/or sold for
publication in hobby magazines. All of my work archives for
those are in AmiPro, PatternMaker, and CorelDraw5. Two of the
three are no longer published (AmiPro was first purchased by
Lotus who did a good job maintaining it, but later sold it
along with Lotus123 to IBM who rewrote them (WordPro) then
abandoned it all; PatternMaker was published by a one-programmer
shop and was abandoned after version 4). I still use AmiPro for
my knitting pattern translations (from German and charts)
for my personal use. Best danged word processor EVAH!
I'll get back to trying to revive at least one of the newer
desktops and getting the data transfered once I can catch up
on a list of other to-dos that need doing before winter weather
gets here.
Meanwhile I can at least still post to Usenet and deal with
email with this stoopid HP laptop with its wonky "e" key and
a capslock key that's too close to the "a" key that I keep hitting
my mistake. :/
Look on the bright side with your engraving software; if your
older Mac hadn't bit the dust, you wouldn't have grabbed a newer
version of the software before they took it off the market. At
least you've stil got *something* that will get the job done for
now.
Nyssa, who has gobs of old software that works just fine provided
you can find a working copy of the right OS to run it AND a floppy
drive to load it onto the hard drive
That's why I love sites like these that keep old versions of software
available for anyone to download.

https://archive.org/details/vintagesoftware

http://www.oldversion.com/
Nyssa
2024-11-20 14:52:19 UTC
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Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a long while. I had despaired
that you were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
Thanks for the re-welcome!
Indeed, welcome back
Post by Nyssa
Post by Nyssa
Multiple computer hardware and a couple of software problems have
caused cascading headaches since mid-August. Even now, I'm stuck using
a laptop with a wonky "e" key just to check email and Usenet while
I attempt to trace down the hardware problems on TWO desktops that
decided to turn ornery one after another. :/
As for older software, I've got a full tower desktop I built
back in the mid-1990s (with an MMX processor) that I keep
running with MS-DOS and Win3.1 in order to access my financial
software, the word processor AmiPro, and PatternMaker design
software. Plus an older version of CorelDraw I did a lot of work
on.
I used to have a side gig for well over a decade doing counted
thread embroidery designs that I published and/or sold for
publication in hobby magazines. All of my work archives for
those are in AmiPro, PatternMaker, and CorelDraw5. Two of the
three are no longer published (AmiPro was first purchased by
Lotus who did a good job maintaining it, but later sold it
along with Lotus123 to IBM who rewrote them (WordPro) then
abandoned it all; PatternMaker was published by a one-programmer
shop and was abandoned after version 4). I still use AmiPro for
my knitting pattern translations (from German and charts)
for my personal use. Best danged word processor EVAH!
I'll get back to trying to revive at least one of the newer
desktops and getting the data transfered once I can catch up
on a list of other to-dos that need doing before winter weather
gets here.
Meanwhile I can at least still post to Usenet and deal with
email with this stoopid HP laptop with its wonky "e" key and
a capslock key that's too close to the "a" key that I keep hitting
my mistake. :/
Look on the bright side with your engraving software; if your
older Mac hadn't bit the dust, you wouldn't have grabbed a newer
version of the software before they took it off the market. At
least you've stil got *something* that will get the job done for
now.
Nyssa, who has gobs of old software that works just fine provided
you can find a working copy of the right OS to run it AND a floppy
drive to load it onto the hard drive
That's why I love sites like these that keep old versions of software
available for anyone to download.
https://archive.org/details/vintagesoftware
http://www.oldversion.com/
Oooooooo! Thanks for the pointer!

I;ve been finding a lot of my old media (both flavors of floppy
and data CDs) are suffering from bit rot. It's good to know
there's a place that might have something that I "own" but
is no longer readable.

Nyssa, who likes lots of old software but *really* dislikes this
laptop's "new style" keyboard
shawn
2024-11-20 15:47:03 UTC
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Post by Nyssa
Post by BTR1701
Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a long while. I had despaired
that you were among the many who have given up on Usenet lately.
Thanks for the re-welcome!
Indeed, welcome back
Post by Nyssa
Post by Nyssa
Multiple computer hardware and a couple of software problems have
caused cascading headaches since mid-August. Even now, I'm stuck using
a laptop with a wonky "e" key just to check email and Usenet while
I attempt to trace down the hardware problems on TWO desktops that
decided to turn ornery one after another. :/
As for older software, I've got a full tower desktop I built
back in the mid-1990s (with an MMX processor) that I keep
running with MS-DOS and Win3.1 in order to access my financial
software, the word processor AmiPro, and PatternMaker design
software. Plus an older version of CorelDraw I did a lot of work
on.
I used to have a side gig for well over a decade doing counted
thread embroidery designs that I published and/or sold for
publication in hobby magazines. All of my work archives for
those are in AmiPro, PatternMaker, and CorelDraw5. Two of the
three are no longer published (AmiPro was first purchased by
Lotus who did a good job maintaining it, but later sold it
along with Lotus123 to IBM who rewrote them (WordPro) then
abandoned it all; PatternMaker was published by a one-programmer
shop and was abandoned after version 4). I still use AmiPro for
my knitting pattern translations (from German and charts)
for my personal use. Best danged word processor EVAH!
I'll get back to trying to revive at least one of the newer
desktops and getting the data transfered once I can catch up
on a list of other to-dos that need doing before winter weather
gets here.
Meanwhile I can at least still post to Usenet and deal with
email with this stoopid HP laptop with its wonky "e" key and
a capslock key that's too close to the "a" key that I keep hitting
my mistake. :/
Look on the bright side with your engraving software; if your
older Mac hadn't bit the dust, you wouldn't have grabbed a newer
version of the software before they took it off the market. At
least you've stil got *something* that will get the job done for
now.
Nyssa, who has gobs of old software that works just fine provided
you can find a working copy of the right OS to run it AND a floppy
drive to load it onto the hard drive
That's why I love sites like these that keep old versions of software
available for anyone to download.
https://archive.org/details/vintagesoftware
http://www.oldversion.com/
Oooooooo! Thanks for the pointer!
I;ve been finding a lot of my old media (both flavors of floppy
and data CDs) are suffering from bit rot. It's good to know
there's a place that might have something that I "own" but
is no longer readable.
Yeah, that happens and likely before you even notice it happening.
So having other copies available is great. Especially since many
companies won't keep those older versions available (assuming the
company is still in business years after the original purchase.)
Post by Nyssa
Nyssa, who likes lots of old software but *really* dislikes this
laptop's "new style" keyboard
anim8rfsk
2024-11-19 02:55:39 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and ?
Surprise! ? Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're
going to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he
Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after
the pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes
Blackadder.
So ORIGINS has Gibbs and Fornell knowing each other decades before they
met. In 1991 instead of 2008.
I've forgotten already, even though I just watched the episode
Thursaday. Were Gibbs and Fornell actually introduced to each other?
While I was checking this out for Suzi Q a fun thing happened. I am in a
rehab facility and the CNA who was doing some stuff in the room heard
the episode start up and not only recognized it just from the sound as
NCIS but as Yankee White, he knew more About the show than Ian will ever
forget.
He says Gibbs and Fornell have yet to actually meet on ORIGINS;
apparently Fornell met Franks. But he has no doubt Gibbs and Furnell
will meet they have to.
Thanks. What are you doing in rehab, your leg get worse?
\
I got bad insulin. Blood sugars hit record high. Wackiness ensued.
Geez! Glad you're semi-okay!
Get well soon. The froup relies on your platinum-quality snarks
especially since the TV content these days deserves that snark so
very much.
:)
Post by Nyssa
Nyssa, who thinks Big Pharma needs to upgrade their QA procedures
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2024-11-17 02:16:58 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
Is that the one where Gibbs hijacks Air Force One and theaters to murder a
Secret Service agent if she tries to interfere?
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2024-11-17 02:49:01 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
Is that the one where Gibbs hijacks Air Force One and theaters to murder a
Secret Service agent if she tries to interfere?
Isn't that the plot of the "JAG" backdoor pilot ep.? Or is that the plot
of the first ep. of "NCIS" proper?
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2024-11-17 03:05:22 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
Is that the one where Gibbs hijacks Air Force One and theaters to murder a
Secret Service agent if she tries to interfere?
Isn't that the plot of the "JAG" backdoor pilot ep.? Or is that the plot
of the first ep. of "NCIS" proper?
It's the first one I watched and after it was over and the USSS agent involved
decided that she admired Gibbs so much for threatening to kill her, she quit
the Secret Service and joined his team.

At that point, I decided the show was so ridiculous it wasn't worth another
second of my time and marked it "never again".
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2024-11-17 06:31:52 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
Is that the one where Gibbs hijacks Air Force One and theaters to murder a
Secret Service agent if she tries to interfere?
Isn't that the plot of the "JAG" backdoor pilot ep.? Or is that the plot
of the first ep. of "NCIS" proper?
The JAG back door pilot is MELTDOWN and ICE QUEEN, episodes eight and nine
of season 20, about six months before YANKEE WHITE.

The JAG pilot is about finding harms real life wife murdered, and frozen in
ice, and Gibbs tries to frame him for it.

For some reason harm, who is like a foot taller and a decade younger than
Gibbs doesn’t beat him within an inch of his life.
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2024-11-17 06:12:45 UTC
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https://tvline.com/recaps/ncis-origins-young-tobias-fornell-cast-gibbs-lala-undercover-episode-6-1235376195/
NCIS: Origins Just Intensified the Gibbs/Lala Bond and — Surprise! —
Introduced a Young [Spoiler]
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH
NOVEMBER 11, 2024 8:00 PM
OK, because the article doesn't make your claim clear, you're going
to have to explain it...
Yes it did. Who was Gibb's good friend in the original NCIS?
Again, for those of us who aren't "NCIS" fanatics, just explain it, please.
Since you don't watch the show much, would you even recognize the
character's name?
Yes, I know who Fornell is. But I don't know the specifics of how he and
Gibbs were supposed to have met, according to the NCIS: Mothership.
We see Gibbs and Formell meet for the very first time in YANKEE WHITE.
Which is the first production episode of NCIS. The first episode after the
pilot on JAG. The episode that introduces Kate and memory holes Blackadder.
Is that the one where Gibbs hijacks Air Force One and theaters to murder a
Secret Service agent if she tries to interfere?
And gets her fired for sleeping with the crew and then hires her himself.
Wonder what he had in mind? And eventually, of course, gets her killed.
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