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President of Honduras Threaten Trump Over Deporting Illegals
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BTR1701
2025-01-04 00:06:47 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.

"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.

"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."

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The balls on her.

Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."

And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?

Here's my counteroffer:

In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.

So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a billion-dollar
loss in her country's revenue.

Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
Rhino
2025-01-04 00:54:59 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a billion-dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars. I'll
bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a very pretty
penny and is a major plus to the families that get them and to the
government itself, assuming they tax those remittances. Deporting
Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major dent in that
remittance money AND any taxes collected on those remittances.
--
Rhino
moviePig
2025-01-04 03:11:34 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a billion-
dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars. I'll
bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a very pretty
penny and is a major plus to the families that get them and to the
government itself, assuming they tax those remittances. Deporting
Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major dent in that
remittance money AND any taxes collected on those remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared made subject to taxation?
Ed Stasiak
2025-01-04 04:30:03 UTC
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moviePig
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BTR1701
Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President
Trump, saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
As I suspected, the U.S. base is militarily irrelevant for us and is used primarily
for flying in that $780 million of U.S. tax payer funded foreign aid...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soto_Cano_Air_Base

The U.S. government once used Palmerola (as previously known) as a base of operations
to support its foreign policy objectives in the 1980s. Now the U.S. military uses Soto Cano
as a launching point for humanitarian aid missions throughout Honduras and Central
America.[3]
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I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars. I'll
bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a very pretty
penny and is a major plus to the families that get them and to the
government itself, assuming they tax those remittances. Deporting
Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major dent in that
remittance money AND any taxes collected on those remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared made subject to taxation?
Well, not directly taxed but that money is spent in Honduras and that gets taxed and
that money amounted to _$3.4 BILLION_ in American money going back to Honduras
from migrants (and that was in 2016, it's no doubt FAR higher nowadays).

https://i.postimg.cc/pTNcFLMk/temp-Image-TCk-JA9.avif
The Horny Goat
2025-01-04 09:08:08 UTC
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I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars. I'll
bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a very pretty
penny and is a major plus to the families that get them and to the
government itself, assuming they tax those remittances. Deporting
Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major dent in that
remittance money AND any taxes collected on those remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared made subject to taxation?
They're not at the US end; on the Honduran end who knows?
Rhino
2025-01-04 15:42:45 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a billion-
dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars.
I'll bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a very
pretty penny and is a major plus to the families that get them and to
the government itself, assuming they tax those remittances. Deporting
Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major dent in that
remittance money AND any taxes collected on those remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared made subject to taxation?
Because governments - ALL governments! - love money and anything that
can be taxed is an opportunity to make money so that the politicians can
pay for the things that they deem important. That includes programs that
help "the people" and those that help the politicians, like magnificent
palaces for themselves.
--
Rhino
moviePig
2025-01-04 16:59:15 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a billion-
dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars.
I'll bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a very
pretty penny and is a major plus to the families that get them and to
the government itself, assuming they tax those remittances. Deporting
Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major dent in that
remittance money AND any taxes collected on those remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared [and thus] made subject to taxation?
Because governments - ALL governments! - love money and anything that
can be taxed is an opportunity to make money so that the politicians can
pay for the things that they deem important. That includes programs that
help "the people" and those that help the politicians, like magnificent
palaces for themselves.
[Inserted left-out words above "and thus"]

What I don't understand is why recipients would declare those funds.
Rhino
2025-01-04 21:45:49 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a
billion- dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars.
I'll bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a
very pretty penny and is a major plus to the families that get them
and to the government itself, assuming they tax those remittances.
Deporting Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major
dent in that remittance money AND any taxes collected on those
remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared [and thus] made subject to taxation?
Because governments - ALL governments! - love money and anything that
can be taxed is an opportunity to make money so that the politicians
can pay for the things that they deem important. That includes
programs that help "the people" and those that help the politicians,
like magnificent palaces for themselves.
[Inserted left-out words above "and thus"]
What I don't understand is why recipients would declare those funds.
Somehow or another, that money makes it back to the home country of the
people that make the remittances, presumably through bank transfers of
some kind. (I've seen ads for apps that can be used for remittances but
I assume they still use banking systems like SWIFT in one way or
another.) The government presumably has reporting requirements for banks
so that the government system is notified about all money coming into
the country and then sees the remittances as income that is eligible for
taxation. If the recipient of the remittance doesn't pay the appropriate
tax, the government notices because it hasn't collected as much tax as
it expected and sends their equivalent of the IRS after the person who
hasn't paid the tax.

Do you not know ANYTHING about how government works??
--
Rhino
moviePig
2025-01-04 22:45:19 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to
President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian
assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a
billion- dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion dollars.
I'll bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is worth a
very pretty penny and is a major plus to the families that get them
and to the government itself, assuming they tax those remittances.
Deporting Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put a very major
dent in that remittance money AND any taxes collected on those
remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared [and thus] made subject to taxation?
Because governments - ALL governments! - love money and anything that
can be taxed is an opportunity to make money so that the politicians
can pay for the things that they deem important. That includes
programs that help "the people" and those that help the politicians,
like magnificent palaces for themselves.
[Inserted left-out words above "and thus"]
What I don't understand is why recipients would declare those funds.
Somehow or another, that money makes it back to the home country of the
people that make the remittances, presumably through bank transfers of
some kind. (I've seen ads for apps that can be used for remittances but
I assume they still use banking systems like SWIFT in one way or
another.) The government presumably has reporting requirements for banks
so that the government system is notified about all money coming into
the country and then sees the remittances as income that is eligible for
taxation. If the recipient of the remittance doesn't pay the appropriate
tax, the government notices because it hasn't collected as much tax as
it expected and sends their equivalent of the IRS after the person who
hasn't paid the tax.
Do you not know ANYTHING about how government works??
Iirc, bank transfers of more than $10k are flagged. And the remittances
we're discussing seem likely to be well below that threshold.
Rhino
2025-01-04 23:35:20 UTC
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Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to President Trump,
saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
nationals.
"Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, we would
have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the United
States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a cent for
decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in this case
would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
"We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and friendly,
and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who normally
make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
-------------------
The balls on her.
Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such a shitpile
(because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) that our
population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally invading
the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll be big
mad."
And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to the United
States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming back home
to contribute there?
In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 million in
bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian
assistance to
Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find other uses
for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a
billion- dollar
loss in her country's revenue.
Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
Repatriation.
I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion
dollars. I'll bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is
worth a very pretty penny and is a major plus to the families that
get them and to the government itself, assuming they tax those
remittances. Deporting Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put
a very major dent in that remittance money AND any taxes collected
on those remittances.
Why would such remittances be declared [and thus] made subject to taxation?
Because governments - ALL governments! - love money and anything
that can be taxed is an opportunity to make money so that the
politicians can pay for the things that they deem important. That
includes programs that help "the people" and those that help the
politicians, like magnificent palaces for themselves.
[Inserted left-out words above "and thus"]
What I don't understand is why recipients would declare those funds.
Somehow or another, that money makes it back to the home country of
the people that make the remittances, presumably through bank ha
transfers of some kind. (I've seen ads for apps that can be used for
remittances but I assume they still use banking systems like SWIFT in
one way or another.) The government presumably has reporting
requirements for banks so that the government system is notified about
all money coming into the country and then sees the remittances as
income that is eligible for taxation. If the recipient of the
remittance doesn't pay the appropriate tax, the government notices
because it hasn't collected as much tax as it expected and sends their
equivalent of the IRS after the person who hasn't paid the tax.
Do you not know ANYTHING about how government works??
Iirc, bank transfers of more than $10k are flagged.  And the remittances
we're discussing seem likely to be well below that threshold.
That's the threshold in the US; Honduras may well have a lower threshold.
--
Rhino
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