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Tom Cotton Scorches ABC News’ Jon Karl Over Claims About Kamala Harris
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Ubiquitous
2024-08-26 08:30:51 UTC
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Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris’ policy positions.

The remarks on the network’s “This Week” happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported “decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms.>

“What do you mean taking away health insurance?” Karl snapped at Cotton.
“What are you talking about?”

“She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon,” Cotton correctly
noted.

Karl responded by claiming that that position was “not her position now.”

“How do you know that’s not her position? How do you know that’s not her
position?” Cotton pressed.

Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.

“She has not said that. She has not said that. She has not said that,” Cotton
fired back. “Maybe anonymous aides on a Friday night have said that, but the
last thing that she said –”

Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was “not taking the positions of
the far left of her party.”

“She’s clearly making an effort to move to the middle,” Karl claimed.

Cotton noted that during Karl’s interview with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
that Sanders was “very disappointed” that Harris was trying to “hide her
positions.”

“The American people are totally justified to conclude that Kamala Harris is
a dangerous San Francisco liberal based on what she campaigned on the last
time she ran for president and what this administration has done for the last
four years,” he said. “Again, you would have thought watching the Democratic
convention last week that the Democrats are not in office, that they’re not
in power, that they’re campaigning against an incumbent Republican, when in
reality she’s been part of the failures of the Biden-Harris administration
for four years. And when she campaigned for president in her own right, she
did in fact promise things like decriminalizing illegal immigration, taking
away —”

Karl again cut Cotton off, claiming that Harris has “clearly changed” her
positions, which she has not.

“No, no, she has not,” Cotton fired back. “Jon, she has not said.”

WATCH:

On #ThisWeek, @JonKarl unaware of Harris’s stance against private
health insurance. When @SenTomCotton notes it, Karl: “What do you
mean taking away health insurance? What are talking about?” Then:
“That is not her position now….clearly making an effort to move
to the middle.” pic.twitter.com/dLk3LEnuCp

— Brent Baker ???? ???? (@BrentHBaker) August 25, 2024

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Let's go Brandon!
BTR1701
2024-08-26 16:56:00 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?

And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
trotsky
2024-08-27 09:03:24 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual. She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-27 19:17:35 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
Everyone knows that as soon as Kamala has to perform without a teleprompter
that her campaign is finished. It might make DoJ-certified imbecile Resident
Joke Biden's debate performance look good in comparison.

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Let's go Brandon!
The Horny Goat
2024-08-28 03:34:37 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Everyone knows that as soon as Kamala has to perform without a teleprompter
that her campaign is finished. It might make DoJ-certified imbecile Resident
Joke Biden's debate performance look good in comparison.
How do you have a debate with teleprompter?

(Glad to be back - had a thunderstorm which zapped my coax from the
node across the street)
super70s
2024-08-28 04:26:19 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Ubiquitous
Everyone knows that as soon as Kamala has to perform without a teleprompter
that her campaign is finished. It might make DoJ-certified imbecile Resident
Joke Biden's debate performance look good in comparison.
How do you have a debate with teleprompter?
(Glad to be back - had a thunderstorm which zapped my coax from the
node across the street)
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.

Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
shawn
2024-08-28 06:12:20 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 23:26:19 -0500, super70s
Post by super70s
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Ubiquitous
Everyone knows that as soon as Kamala has to perform without a teleprompter
that her campaign is finished. It might make DoJ-certified imbecile Resident
Joke Biden's debate performance look good in comparison.
How do you have a debate with teleprompter?
(Glad to be back - had a thunderstorm which zapped my coax from the
node across the street)
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.
Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
Yep, lightning strikes can still interrupt or even take out the
equipment that needs to be used to "refresh" the signal in the fiber.
super70s
2024-08-28 13:58:58 UTC
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Post by shawn
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 23:26:19 -0500, super70s
Post by super70s
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Ubiquitous
Everyone knows that as soon as Kamala has to perform without a teleprompter
that her campaign is finished. It might make DoJ-certified imbecile Resident
Joke Biden's debate performance look good in comparison.
How do you have a debate with teleprompter?
(Glad to be back - had a thunderstorm which zapped my coax from the
node across the street)
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.
Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
Yep, lightning strikes can still interrupt or even take out the
equipment that needs to be used to "refresh" the signal in the fiber.
Then there's the router and that new big fiber box thingie they gave me
which need electricity to run.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-30 16:31:05 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:58:58 -0500, super70s
Post by super70s
Post by shawn
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 23:26:19 -0500, super70s
Post by super70s
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.
Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
Yep, lightning strikes can still interrupt or even take out the
equipment that needs to be used to "refresh" the signal in the fiber.
Then there's the router and that new big fiber box thingie they gave me
which need electricity to run.
I was told that our coax lines were laid when the subdivision was
built in the early 70s. Alllegedly it would require digging up the
roadway (which the area 2 blocks west of us - and we're on a bus route
- has been dug up earlier this summer) to upgrade. I'm not convinced -
but just want what I'm paying for (in terms of speed)
The Horny Goat
2024-08-30 16:28:30 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 23:26:19 -0500, super70s
Post by super70s
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.
Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
I told my repair guy as he was winding up on Tuesday (getting me up
and running after 5 days down) that I wanted him to let his boss know
that I'd be contacting them within the week if they couldn't
consistently deliver the line speeds I was paying for concerning
changing my package to the fastest speed they COULD deliver - with the
corresponding reduction in cost and said if they blew me off I'd be
talking to their competitors which I'm reluctant to do as it would
mean changing my e-mail address - and I do a LOT of e-mail.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-30 16:34:09 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by super70s
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.
Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
I told my repair guy as he was winding up on Tuesday (getting me up
and running after 5 days down) that I wanted him to let his boss know
that I'd be contacting them within the week if they couldn't
consistently deliver the line speeds I was paying for concerning
changing my package to the fastest speed they COULD deliver - with the
corresponding reduction in cost and said if they blew me off I'd be
talking to their competitors which I'm reluctant to do as it would
mean changing my e-mail address - and I do a LOT of e-mail.
Change your email address now. Never use an address associated with your
ISP, except for service-related messages.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-31 18:19:31 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:34:09 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by The Horny Goat
I told my repair guy as he was winding up on Tuesday (getting me up
and running after 5 days down) that I wanted him to let his boss know
that I'd be contacting them within the week if they couldn't
consistently deliver the line speeds I was paying for concerning
changing my package to the fastest speed they COULD deliver - with the
corresponding reduction in cost and said if they blew me off I'd be
talking to their competitors which I'm reluctant to do as it would
mean changing my e-mail address - and I do a LOT of e-mail.
Change your email address now. Never use an address associated with your
ISP, except for service-related messages.
What would you suggest as a good provider?
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-31 18:23:49 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by The Horny Goat
I told my repair guy as he was winding up on Tuesday (getting me up
and running after 5 days down) that I wanted him to let his boss know
that I'd be contacting them within the week if they couldn't
consistently deliver the line speeds I was paying for concerning
changing my package to the fastest speed they COULD deliver - with the
corresponding reduction in cost and said if they blew me off I'd be
talking to their competitors which I'm reluctant to do as it would
mean changing my e-mail address - and I do a LOT of e-mail.
Change your email address now. Never use an address associated with your
ISP, except for service-related messages.
What would you suggest as a good provider?
I don't have a recommendation as I don't use a commercial email service
provider. Friends have used pobox.com and fastmail.us.
Ubiquitous
2024-09-05 08:31:53 UTC
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Post by super70s
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Ubiquitous
Everyone knows that as soon as Kamala has to perform without a
teleprompter that her campaign is finished. It might make DoJ-certified
imbecile Resident Joke Biden's debate performance look good in comparison.
How do you have a debate with teleprompter?
In this case, "without" is instrumental, not accompanyment. :-)
Post by super70s
Post by The Horny Goat
(Glad to be back - had a thunderstorm which zapped my coax from the
node across the street)
I was (manditorily) upgraded to fiber about 10 days ago but I guess
it's as susceptible to storms as coax.
Amazing how thin the actual fiber is though, the installer cut off a
small piece to show me and it's not much thicker than a strand of hair.
It shouldn't be. It's fiber _optics_, after all.

--
Let's go Brandon!

moviePig
2024-08-27 20:13:22 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
trotsky
2024-08-28 08:43:58 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
moviePig
2024-08-28 15:37:01 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
BTR1701
2024-08-28 19:06:11 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by trotsky
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined b
Karl Marx.
moviePig
2024-08-28 20:18:13 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton
correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined by
Karl Marx.
Doesn't Marx have some sort of Godwin's Law status by now?...
BTR1701
2024-08-28 20:26:40 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined
by Karl Marx.
Doesn't Marx have some sort of Godwin's Law status by now?...
I'm sure you're rooting for it so that you can just summarily dismiss
any such reference with an appeal to a fake 'law'. Makes things a lot
easier.
moviePig
2024-08-28 22:24:16 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined
by Karl Marx.
Doesn't Marx have some sort of Godwin's Law status by now?...
I'm sure you're rooting for it so that you can just summarily dismiss
any such reference with an appeal to a fake 'law'. Makes things a lot
easier.
Just suggesting that a Marx-siren might not lobotomize like it used to.
trotsky
2024-08-29 09:29:53 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined
by Karl Marx.
Doesn't Marx have some sort of Godwin's Law status by now?...
I'm sure you're rooting for it so that you can just summarily dismiss
any such reference with an appeal to a fake 'law'. Makes things a lot
easier.
Just like pulling horseshit out of thin air makes things easier for you,
correct?

Lack of self awareness noted.
trotsky
2024-08-29 09:02:28 UTC
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Post by moviePig
  Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl
during an
  interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about
Democratic
  presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy
positions.
  The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton
correctly
  pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential
nominee
  Donald
  Trump is different from Harris, who has supported
"decriminalizing
  illegal
  immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal
  aliens or
  taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million
Americans,
  banning
  gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
  "What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at
  Cotton.
  "What are you talking about?"
  "She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate
  private
  health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon,"
Cotton
  correctly
  noted.
  Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her
position
  now".
  "How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's
  not her
  position?" Cotton pressed.
  Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which
Harris
  has not
  indicated.
  How would we know whether she supports that position or not,
since she
  won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold
a press
  conference?
  And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
  entire record and the last four years of her own
administration, why
  would anyone with a brain believe her views have really
changed? That
  she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
  elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
  Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the
  positions
  of the far left of her party."
  Harris *is* the far left of her party.
  Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
  anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
  Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
  Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
  I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan
have
  two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined by
Karl Marx.
Doesn't Marx have some sort of Godwin's Law status by now?...
Damn, another good comment. You're on a roll.
trotsky
2024-08-29 09:08:49 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton
correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Well, that's what a party would think that believes the center is defined by
Karl Marx.
Cite? (No, masturbatory fantasies aren't a cite.)
super70s
2024-08-28 22:33:49 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by moviePig
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
I remember Kellyanne Conway complaining about Republicans jokingly
being described as "to the right of Atilla the Hun" back in the 1990s,
then Republicans actually did move to the right of Atilla the Hun and
are proud of it, so it no longer bothers them.
trotsky
2024-08-29 09:05:41 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ubiquitous
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) skewered ABC News host Jonathan Karl during an
interview on Sunday over false remarks that he made about Democratic
presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris' policy positions.
The remarks on the network's THIS WEEK happened when Cotton correctly
pointed out the numerous ways that Republican presidential nominee Donald
Trump is different from Harris, who has supported "decriminalizing illegal
immigration or giving taxpayer-funded health insurance to illegal aliens or
taking away health insurance on the job for 170 million Americans, banning
gas cars, confiscating firearms--"
"What do you mean taking away health insurance?" Karl snapped at Cotton.
"What are you talking about?"
"She said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private
health insurance on the job of 170 million Americans, Jon," Cotton correctly
noted.
Karl responded by claiming that that position was "not her position now".
"How do you know that's not her position? How do you know that's not her
position?" Cotton pressed.
Karl claimed that she no longer supports the position, which Harris has not
indicated.
How would we know whether she supports that position or not, since she
won't go anywhere near a reporter's microphone, let alone hold a press
conference?
And even if she did hold a press conference and repudiate both her
entire record and the last four years of her own administration, why
would anyone with a brain believe her views have really changed? That
she's not just saying what she thinks she needs to in order to get
elected and that her actual views are what they've always been.
Post by Ubiquitous
Karl cut off Cotton and claimed that Harris was "not taking the positions
of the far left of her party."
Harris *is* the far left of her party.
Wrong as usual.  She's not as far left as Bernie and his squad, and
anyone with a modicum of knowledge about politics knows this.
Translation: stop being so fucking stupid.
Iirc, the phrase is 'left of Genghis Khan'...
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan
have two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
Ah, I see the perspective now. Thanks for the update.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-30 16:33:22 UTC
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Post by trotsky
I don't follow, not as far left as Bernie and left of Genghis Khan have
two different meanings.
To the Right, "far left" is anything left of Genghis Khan.
The reverse is also true - and of course they ALWAYS characterize the
whole area of the spectrum in terms of the most extreme member.

We had a major (provincial) re-alignment yesterday and the premier
(think 'governor' who is from our socialist party) talked in terms of
"conspiracy theorists" on the other side.
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