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trotsky
2024-09-07 11:40:34 UTC
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Ron Filipkowski
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Trump says his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris will be rigged against
him and unfair.
Capricorne
2024-09-07 15:01:41 UTC
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Ron Filipkowski
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Trump says his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris will be rigged against him
and unfair.
What a wimp! Always whining and whimpering. Stand up like a man! :/
trotsky
2024-09-10 08:29:26 UTC
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Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
Trump says his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris will be rigged
against him and unfair.
What a wimp! Always whining and whimpering. Stand up like a man! :/
If only.
Ubiquitous
2024-09-07 22:12:51 UTC
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ABC News released the rules on Wednesday that both Republican
presidential nominee Donald Trump and Democrat presidential nominee
Kamala Harris have agreed to ahead of next week’s debate.

ABC News said that Tuesday’s debate — moderated by “World News Tonight”
anchor David Muir and “Prime” anchor Linsey Davis — will implement the
rules originally agreed upon in May when Trump was going to face
President Joe Biden:

• "No opening statements; closing statements will be two minutes per
candidate.

• "Candidates will stand behind podiums for the duration of the debate.

• "Props or prewritten notes are not allowed onstage.

• "No topics or questions will be shared in advance with campaigns or
candidates.

• "Candidates will be given a pen, a pad of paper, and a bottle of water.

• "Candidates will have two-minute answers to questions, two-minute
rebuttals, and one extra minute for follow-ups, clarifications, or
responses.

• "Candidates’ microphones will be live only for the candidate whose
turn it is to speak and muted when the time belongs to another
candidate.

• "Candidates will not be permitted to ask questions of each other.

• "Campaign staff may not interact with candidates during commercial
breaks.

• "Moderators will seek to enforce timing agreements and ensure a
civilized discussion.

• "There will be no audience in the room.

Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.

“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”

The Harris campaign added that it only agreed to the rules so that Trump
would appear.

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Let's go Brandon!
The Horny Goat
2024-09-09 01:10:22 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
moviePig
2024-09-09 02:46:49 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
shawn
2024-09-09 03:07:25 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
The Horny Goat
2024-09-09 06:16:11 UTC
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Post by shawn
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
You are almost certainly correct on this point.
moviePig
2024-09-09 15:38:15 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
He's not known to heed advisers but there's a first time for everything.
trotsky
2024-09-10 08:30:06 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
He's not known to heed advisers but there's a first time for everything.
Who's the buttfucking bastard who cut my name out of my thread?
moviePig
2024-09-10 15:18:43 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a
disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
He's not known to heed advisers but there's a first time for everything.
Who's the buttfucking bastard who cut my name out of my thread?
Looks like it was Usurp-quitous...
trotsky
2024-09-11 08:36:10 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a
disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
He's not known to heed advisers but there's a first time for everything.
Who's the buttfucking bastard who cut my name out of my thread?
Looks like it was Usurp-quitous...
Yeppers.
The Horny Goat
2024-09-10 22:18:27 UTC
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Post by shawn
I have no doubt that Trump actually wants open microphones but his
staff doesn't want them. Trump wants to repeat the behavior he had
with Hillary Clinton but his staff fears that such a performance would
turn off the very voters they are depending upon to win the election.
He's not known to heed advisers but there's a first time for everything.
Much to my surprise he does seem to be doing so at least in 2024
(maybe he realized they gave him good advice he didn't follow in 2020
- of course maybe he could go to heaven....nah!)
trotsky
2024-09-10 08:32:23 UTC
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Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
Why is it shocking that Trump wanted the same rules agreed to with
Biden? Given a limited amount of time to prepare, doesn't that make
sense under the circumstances?
What's (not really) "shocking" is that, allegedly, Trump wanted open
microphones with Biden, but now wants them muted to face Harris.
You really should have restored what I had said. It's not like you're
new to this shit.0
trotsky
2024-09-10 08:31:14 UTC
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ABC News released the rules on Wednesday that both Republican
presidential nominee Donald Trump and Democrat presidential nominee
Kamala Harris have agreed to ahead of next week’s debate.
ABC News said that Tuesday’s debate — moderated by “World News Tonight”
anchor David Muir and “Prime” anchor Linsey Davis — will implement the
rules originally agreed upon in May when Trump was going to face
• "No opening statements; closing statements will be two minutes per
candidate.
• "Candidates will stand behind podiums for the duration of the debate.
• "Props or prewritten notes are not allowed onstage.
• "No topics or questions will be shared in advance with campaigns or
candidates.
• "Candidates will be given a pen, a pad of paper, and a bottle of water.
• "Candidates will have two-minute answers to questions, two-minute
rebuttals, and one extra minute for follow-ups, clarifications, or
responses.
• "Candidates’ microphones will be live only for the candidate whose
turn it is to speak and muted when the time belongs to another
candidate.
• "Candidates will not be permitted to ask questions of each other.
• "Campaign staff may not interact with candidates during commercial
breaks.
• "Moderators will seek to enforce timing agreements and ensure a
civilized discussion.
• "There will be no audience in the room.
Harris’ campaign complained in a letter to ABC News, in which they also
accepted the debate rules, claiming that Harris was at a disadvantage.
“Vice President Harris, a former prosecutor, will be fundamentally
disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump
from direct exchanges with the Vice President,” the letter said. “We
suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign’s insistence on muted
microphones.”
The Harris campaign added that it only agreed to the rules so that Trump
would appear.
Aha, you're the buttfucking bastard who cut my name out of my thread.
You're so fucking shitty even Adam H. Verman thinks you suck.
Ubiquitous
2024-09-08 08:30:44 UTC
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Let's go Brandon!
Ubiquitous
2024-09-10 08:32:05 UTC
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There are a lot of ways you can tell that a political campaign is in trouble.
Of course you can look at the polls, and the various models that aggregate
those polls. And right now the models do not look good for Kamala Harris.
Right now, for example, Nate Silver’s model gives Donald Trump a 60% chance
of winning, with a projected 277 electoral votes.

NEW: Democrat-voting pollster Nate Silver releases new Presidential
prediction model showing commanding Trump lead:

ELECTORAL COLLEGE ODDS:

Trump: 60.1% (+20.4)

Harris: 39.7% pic.twitter.com/md7Co7lkGQ

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 5, 2024

Who knows whether any of this is particularly accurate. It’ll all change by
next week, most likely, and there’s still plenty of time to go. But the more
interesting thing about Silver’s projection isn’t the specific figures. It’s
that his data, which aggregates all the polls, shows a very clear trend.
Kamala Harris is losing ground, quickly, as you can see from that chart. And
it’s not hard to see why. When you’re only capable of giving one interview to
a friendly news outlet in more than a month — and when you manage to bomb
that interview — then people lose confidence in your campaign very quickly.
And that’s what’s happening to Kamala Harris right now. She barely got a
bounce from the convention. And now she’s in free fall. The media built up a
elaborate hype train for Kamala, hoping it would carry her on those tracks to
November. But the whole thing was so absurdly fake, so phony, that it
couldn’t last. It ran out of steam. And now they’re stuck with Kamala Harris.
Not the idea of Kamala Harris — the idea they constructed. But the fact of
her as a person. Kamala Harris, the lame, unimpressive, inarticulate
politician we all have known.

At the same time, if you’re not a believer in polls or statistical models,
there are plenty of other signs that things have taken a very bad turn for
Kamala Harris’ candidacy. One of them is that the campaign’s lying is
becoming more flagrant and shameless by the day. There’s clear desperation
everywhere you look.

Last night for instance, Kamala’s account tweeted an accusation that JD Vance
had downplayed school shootings as just a “fact of life.” Here’s what
Kamala’s handlers posted to her account, above a video of Vance’s speech:
“School shootings are not just a fact of life. It doesn’t have to be this
way. We can take action to protect our children—and we will.”

So she’s telling off JD Vance for supposedly saying that school shootings are
inevitable and we should all get used to them. Predictably, the Associated
Press also promoted the lie about what Vance said. They ran this headline:
“JD Vance says school shootings are a ‘fact of life.'”

Deleted post: 2.2 million impressions

Corrected post: 100k impressions pic.twitter.com/4Q5tpIoGXn

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) September 6, 2024

Several million people saw this smear and repeated it. The outrage machine
kicked into gear, as expected. Eventually Twitter’s community notes feature
corrected it, and the AP finally deleted their original post, and updated
their headline. Now the AP’s headline reads very differently. It says,: “JD
Vance says he laments that school shootings are a ‘fact of life.'”

So they suggested that Vance was minimizing the fact that a school shooting
had occurred, when in fact he was doing the opposite. As far as lies go, this
one was extremely transparent. Anyone could just watch the video to see what
JD Vance actually said. But the AP, and the Kamala Harris campaign, went
ahead with the lie anyway. And that tells us that they’re desperate —
obviously so. They’re in a very bad position and they know it. Campaigns that
are confident, and surging in the polls, don’t need to invent fake quotes
that are easy to disprove in about five seconds.

And for that matter, campaigns that aren’t collapsing don’t have surrogates
who go wildly off-message all the time. But that’s happening to Kamala’s
campaign too. People who are supposed to be promoting Kamala are, instead,
sabotaging her messaging at every opportunity.

Here for example is Joe Biden the other day, talking about the Inflation
Reduction Act. This is the law that Kamala Harris cast the tie-breaking vote
on. But instead of arguing that the Inflation Reduction Act reduced
inflation, Biden instead admitted that the law in fact had nothing to do with
inflation. Instead he said it was a climate bill. Watch:

Joe Biden just STRAIGHT UP ADMITTED that the Inflation Reduction Act
was a TOTAL SCAM that had NOTHING to do with reducing inflation!

Does Kamala Harris agree with this?

"We should've named it what it was!" pic.twitter.com/2WL7N1exN2

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) September 5, 2024

“We should’ve named it what it was.”

If you’re Kamala, that’s not exactly something you want to hear one of your
surrogates say on the campaign trail. It’s an admission that Kamala Harris
deceived the entire country about the one major legislative accomplishment
she claims to have. And once you admit that, there’s no reason for anyone to
trust her ever again. There’s certainly no reason to trust her when she says
that she can implement her economic agenda — including taxing unrealized
capital gains — without destroying the U.S. economy.

And just to underscore that point, another prominent supporter of Kamala —
Mark Cuban — just went on CNBC to explain that taxing unrealized capital
gains would be a disaster. Watch:

NEW: Mark Cuban gets flustered & says "no" 16 times after CNBC host
Rebecca Quick said Kamala is just telling people what they want to
hear.

"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no," Cuban
said.

The "no" comment came after Cuban said Harris' plan to tax…
pic.twitter.com/6B1WeqsqvC

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) September 5, 2024

Cuban went on to say that he’s supposedly spoken with Harris’ team and that
they now understand that taxing unrealized capital gains may not be a great
idea. But that doesn’t explain why they proposed it in the first place. It
also doesn’t explain why they’re still pushing it. Kamala hasn’t explained,
in detail, why she still wants a tax on unrealized capital gains. Her team
has walked back some of the numbers, but she’s still proposing the tax. Why
is that exactly? How can she support a tax that even her own supporters
recognized would be a disaster?

We all know the answer to that question. Kamala Harris doesn’t know anything
about economics. Ask her one question about unrealized capital gains and
she’ll start babbling about equity. She won’t be able to defend the policy
even for a moment. Everyone — even her surrogates — understands this. And now
they’re comfortable coming out on television and admitting it.

These are not great signs for the Kamala Harris campaign. But maybe the worst
sign of all is what took place earlier this week. Kamala received an
endorsement from Liz Cheney, who recently lost her House seat by a margin
that was almost unparalleled in modern politics. If there was ever an
endorsement that qualified as the kiss of death, this is it.

Here’s the awkwardly filmed cellphone footage of the big moment:

Finally, Liz Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris! Let's go! ????????????
#HarrisWalz2024 #LizCheney #CountryOverParty
pic.twitter.com/wm5n9nXWZu

— ???????????? ?????????????? (@Bannerman104) September 4, 2024

Liz Cheney goes on and on about how Kamala Harris will save democracy and
freedom in the United States. And people in the audience pretend to be
excited about this endorsement. But if you go back just a couple of years,
Liz Cheney had a very different perspective on Kamala Harris. She pointed out
that Kamala had explicitly promised to suspend Americans’ constitutional
rights via executive order. She explained that Kamala Harris wants to spend
trillions of dollars on universal healthcare. And she concluded that she’s a
“Radical” to the left of Bernie Sanders who no one should vote for. Watch:

WATCH: Just as Liz Cheney announced her endorsement of Kamala Harris,
a video has resurfaced of her SLAMMING Kamala, calling her a radical

"Her voting record is to the left of Bernie Sanders… It's very clear,
she [Kamala] is a radical liberal"
pic.twitter.com/fIQFVkyKsS

— George (@BehizyTweets) September 4, 2024

This is the kind of endorsement you’d probably rather refuse, if you had the
choice. There is no one, on either side of the political spectrum, who covets
an endorsement from Liz Cheney. But now it’s the endorsement that Kamala
Harris is stuck with. This is the caliber of endorsement her candidacy is
attracting, as her surrogates are publicly disavowing her policy positions.
As the ship sinks, Kamala Harris is quite literally getting endorsed by the
biggest losers in all of politics.

Of course Kamala Harris has no one to blame for this but herself. Because
she’s not appearing for interviews, she has to rely on surrogates to explain
what she stands for, and why. Kamala Harris herself is nowhere to be found.
That’s why people are still digging up clips of her speeches from several
years ago, to try to figure out what a Kamala Harris administration would
look like. That’s what we’re reduced to, when the candidate is incapable of
speaking.

Here’s one of those clips that’s now making the rounds, which is apparently
from 2019:

Elon Musk, RFK Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard are raising concerns of free
speech under Kamala Harris.

In 2019, Harris vowed to use the DOJ and law enforcement to 'hold
social media platforms responsible' for 'misinformation' as part of
the 'fight against this threat to our Democracy'
pic.twitter.com/3XwD8lcoQb

— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) September 5, 2024

As I outlined yesterday, politicians like Kamala Harris demand censorship
because without it, their candidacy falls apart. There are just too many
obvious problems with her platform that don’t withstand any scrutiny. So she
wants to shut down the Internet to prevent people from talking about them.

Frankly, we are now at the point where Kamala Harris would probably censor
her own surrogates if she could. A candidate who isn’t capable of speaking
for herself is now struggling to contain the people she’s sending out to do
her messaging for her. With just a couple of months to go until the election,
more than any poll or statistical model, that’s just about the worst
imaginable sign for the Kamala Harris campaign. What that means is very
clear, based on what we’ve seen so far: The lying, and the panic, are only
going to intensify from here.

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Let's go Brandon!
The Horny Goat
2024-09-10 22:21:43 UTC
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There are a lot of ways you can tell that a political campaign is in trouble.
Of course you can look at the polls, and the various models that aggregate
those polls. And right now the models do not look good for Kamala Harris.
Right now, for example, Nate Silver’s model gives Donald Trump a 60% chance
of winning, with a projected 277 electoral votes.
Obviously various people are having different opinions. Just last
night none other than Ben Shapiro was claiming Harris was one or two
points ahead - still within statistical error but more likely than
Trump. (And unlike 2020 Shapiro >IS< going for Trump this time)

Very strange.
shawn
2024-09-10 22:42:15 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
There are a lot of ways you can tell that a political campaign is in trouble.
Of course you can look at the polls, and the various models that aggregate
those polls. And right now the models do not look good for Kamala Harris.
Right now, for example, Nate Silver’s model gives Donald Trump a 60% chance
of winning, with a projected 277 electoral votes.
Obviously various people are having different opinions. Just last
night none other than Ben Shapiro was claiming Harris was one or two
points ahead - still within statistical error but more likely than
Trump. (And unlike 2020 Shapiro >IS< going for Trump this time)
Very strange.
Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model


Then there is the thirteen keys model which has accurately predicted
the President since the 80s. It shows Harris as the likely winner
barring some dramatic change.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20240909-historian-predicted-nearly-every-us-election-winner-kamal-harris-will-win
The Horny Goat
2024-09-11 03:47:11 UTC
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Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.
Just finished watching the US debate and while I'm not completely sure
of the result, it certainly wasn't a knockout blow to Harris.

Since it was ABC they are clearly spinning it as a major win for
Harris but then I expected that before the debate started even if she
had spend the entire 90 minutes standing on her head.

I do think ABC's "Fact Checkers" are highly partisan - more along the
line of giving a soft review to Harris than the (expected given it's
ABC) tough review to Trump. But then when was ABC NOT pro-Democrat? I
do think Trump got side tracked on side issues rather than hammering
hard on the economy.
suzeeq
2024-09-11 05:22:40 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:42:15 -0400, shawn
Post by shawn
Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.
Just finished watching the US debate and while I'm not completely sure
of the result, it certainly wasn't a knockout blow to Harris.
Since it was ABC they are clearly spinning it as a major win for
Harris but then I expected that before the debate started even if she
had spend the entire 90 minutes standing on her head.
I do think ABC's "Fact Checkers" are highly partisan - more along the
line of giving a soft review to Harris than the (expected given it's
ABC) tough review to Trump. But then when was ABC NOT pro-Democrat? I
do think Trump got side tracked on side issues rather than hammering
hard on the economy.
He's been doing that a lot lately. And he never answers the question
being put to him.
Your Name
2024-09-11 07:37:20 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:42:15 -0400, shawn
Post by shawn
Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.
Just finished watching the US debate and while I'm not completely sure
of the result, it certainly wasn't a knockout blow to Harris.
Since it was ABC they are clearly spinning it as a major win for
Harris but then I expected that before the debate started even if she
had spend the entire 90 minutes standing on her head.
I do think ABC's "Fact Checkers" are highly partisan - more along the
line of giving a soft review to Harris than the (expected given it's
ABC) tough review to Trump. But then when was ABC NOT pro-Democrat? I
do think Trump got side tracked on side issues rather than hammering
hard on the economy.
He's been doing that a lot lately. And he never answers the question
being put to him.
Not answering the question is lesson 1 in Politician School - they all do that.

They also all lie, which is something else Trump the Chump has been
very good at doing for decades.
moviePig
2024-09-11 14:59:36 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:42:15 -0400, shawn
Post by shawn
Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.
Just finished watching the US debate and while I'm not completely sure
of the result, it certainly wasn't a knockout blow to Harris.
Since it was ABC they are clearly spinning it as a major win for
Harris but then I expected that before the debate started even if she
had spend the entire 90 minutes standing on her head.
I do think ABC's "Fact Checkers" are highly partisan - more along the
line of giving a soft review to Harris than the (expected given it's
ABC) tough review to Trump. But then when was ABC NOT pro-Democrat? I
do think Trump got side tracked on side issues rather than hammering
hard on the economy.
He's been doing that a lot lately. And he never answers the question
being put to him.
All politicians are guilty of that, Trump maybe less deliberately...
trotsky
2024-09-13 09:37:34 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by shawn
Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.
Just finished watching the US debate and while I'm not completely sure
of the result, it certainly wasn't a knockout blow to Harris.
Since it was ABC they are clearly spinning it as a major win for
Harris but then I expected that before the debate started even if she
had spend the entire 90 minutes standing on her head.
I do think ABC's "Fact Checkers" are highly partisan - more along the
line of giving a soft review to Harris than the (expected given it's
ABC) tough review to Trump. But then when was ABC NOT pro-Democrat? I
do think Trump got side tracked on side issues rather than hammering
hard on the economy.
He's been doing that a lot lately. And he never answers the question
being put to him.
TROLL-O-METER
5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
Now you even have Hall Monitor suzee saying you're a fucking dickhead,
kudos!!
Ubiquitous
2024-09-12 17:15:11 UTC
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Post by shawn
Funny thing is looking at the actual results from Nate Silver shows
that he only had Trump ahead back in August when Biden was still
running. Since Harris became the likely nominee and then picked Walz
as her VP she's been ahead in every national average poll according to
Nate Silver.
Just finished watching the US debate and while I'm not completely sure
of the result, it certainly wasn't a knockout blow to Harris.
Since it was ABC they are clearly spinning it as a major win for
Harris but then I expected that before the debate started even if she
had spend the entire 90 minutes standing on her head.
I do think ABC's "Fact Checkers" are highly partisan - more along the
line of giving a soft review to Harris than the (expected given it's
ABC) tough review to Trump. But then when was ABC NOT pro-Democrat? I
do think Trump got side tracked on side issues rather than hammering
hard on the economy.
He's been doing that a lot lately. And he never answers the question
being put to him.
TROLL-O-METER

5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity

Ubiquitous
2024-09-12 17:13:30 UTC
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Then there is the thirteen keys model which has accurately predicted
the President since the 80s. It shows Harris as the likely winner
barring some dramatic change.
Except most of those keys don't apply and he obviously chose answers to
support his desired outcome. It's going to be 2000 for him agian!

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Let's go Brandon!
trotsky
2024-09-13 09:36:24 UTC
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Post by shawn
Then there is the thirteen keys model which has accurately predicted
the President since the 80s. It shows Harris as the likely winner
barring some dramatic change.
Except most of those keys don't apply and he obviously chose answers to
support his desired outcome. It's going to be 2000 for him agian!
Are you referring to his weight? He's not that fat is he?
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