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BTR1701
2024-03-26 00:43:03 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).

Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".

https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d

Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
BTR1701
2024-03-26 00:50:26 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Even CNN is now reporting that Mar-a-Lago is worth north of $200 million whe
the judge in Trump's trial assigned it a value of only $18 million, a numbe
he basically pulled out of his ass, based on nothing but his own biases, t
support a verdict against Trump.


https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1770974120987029504/vid/avc1/480x270/8-kFmV79hY_BOfO7.mp4?tag=14

Some of indictments and prosecutions against Trump have merit (classifie
docs, etc.), but this New York case is nothing but a blatant use of th
judicial system to wage a transparent political hit job on someone they jus
don't like for his politics.
shawn
2024-03-26 01:36:55 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Even CNN is now reporting that Mar-a-Lago is worth north of $200 million when
the judge in Trump's trial assigned it a value of only $18 million, a number
he basically pulled out of his ass, based on nothing but his own biases, to
support a verdict against Trump.
That seems unlikely when you consider that there are restriction in
place that prevent anyone from doing anything else with the property.
Now, as I understand it, if they could tear it down and divide it up
into smaller properties for homes then you might get that value up in
the hundreds of millions.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1770974120987029504/vid/avc1/480x270/8-kFmV79hY_BOfO7.mp4?tag=14
Some of indictments and prosecutions against Trump have merit (classified
docs, etc.), but this New York case is nothing but a blatant use of the
judicial system to wage a transparent political hit job on someone they just
don't like for his politics.
Not as I understand it because there's changing valuations and then
there's changing valuations. Trump played with the valuations on a
level that no one else I've heard of doing. It's just amazing to me
that no one called him on it. Though looking at some of Louis
Rossman's videos it is clear that exaggerating with real estate is a
NY thing as he had multiple videos showing people renting commercial
real estate. They would say the space was 2000 square feet but if you
measured it there would only be 1000 square feet of space available.
It's not even that there was space that you couldn't use. The real
estate agents just invented extra space. Though if they were doing it
on Trump's level they might say that 1000 square foot of space was
actually 20-30 thousand square feet of space.
NoBody
2024-03-26 11:25:01 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Even CNN is now reporting that Mar-a-Lago is worth north of $200 million when
the judge in Trump's trial assigned it a value of only $18 million, a number
he basically pulled out of his ass, based on nothing but his own biases, to
support a verdict against Trump.
That seems unlikely when you consider that there are restriction in
place that prevent anyone from doing anything else with the property.
Now, as I understand it, if they could tear it down and divide it up
into smaller properties for homes then you might get that value up in
the hundreds of millions.
Are you disputing CNN's statement? I hope you include their response
when you contacted them to correct it.
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https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1770974120987029504/vid/avc1/480x270/8-kFmV79hY_BOfO7.mp4?tag=14
Some of indictments and prosecutions against Trump have merit (classified
docs, etc.), but this New York case is nothing but a blatant use of the
judicial system to wage a transparent political hit job on someone they just
don't like for his politics.
Not as I understand it because there's changing valuations and then
there's changing valuations. Trump played with the valuations on a
level that no one else I've heard of doing. It's just amazing to me
that no one called him on it. Though looking at some of Louis
Rossman's videos it is clear that exaggerating with real estate is a
NY thing as he had multiple videos showing people renting commercial
real estate. They would say the space was 2000 square feet but if you
measured it there would only be 1000 square feet of space available.
It's not even that there was space that you couldn't use. The real
estate agents just invented extra space. Though if they were doing it
on Trump's level they might say that 1000 square foot of space was
actually 20-30 thousand square feet of space.
Citations required. You have a future as a New York judge.
trotsky
2024-03-27 08:23:27 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Even CNN is now reporting that Mar-a-Lago is worth north of $200 million
Cite? Google returned zero hits for this phrase.



when
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the judge in Trump's trial assigned it a value of only $18 million, a number
he basically pulled out of his ass, based on nothing but his own biases, to
support a verdict against Trump.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1770974120987029504/vid/avc1/480x270/8-kFmV79hY_BOfO7.mp4?tag=14
Some of indictments and prosecutions against Trump have merit (classified
docs, etc.), but this New York case is nothing but a blatant use of the
judicial system to wage a transparent political hit job on someone they just
don't like for his politics.
BTR1701
2024-03-27 19:15:58 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties.
But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Even CNN is now reporting that Mar-a-Lago is worth north of $200 million
Cite? Google returned zero hits for this phrase.
Try clicking on the link I provided, Hutt, you diseased vulva.

I literally give you a cite and you still reflexively burp out "Cite?"
like some kind of retarded parrot.
Post by BTR1701
when the judge in Trump's trial assigned it a value of only $18 million,
a number he basically pulled out of his ass, based on nothing but his own
biases, to support a verdict against Trump.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1770974120987029504/vid/avc1/480x270/8
-kFmV79hY_BOfO7.mp4?tag=14
Some of indictments and prosecutions against Trump have merit (classified
docs, etc.), but this New York case is nothing but a blatant use of the
judicial system to wage a transparent political hit job on someone they
just don't like for his politics.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-03-26 01:42:30 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
I'm going to agree. This fraud trial was specious. These lenders were
not injured.
FPP
2024-03-26 11:04:09 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.

For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.

He committed fraud on a multi decades scheme. Are you surprised your
rapist is also a fraud?

Kinda reminds me of you.
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BTR1701
2024-03-28 17:41:20 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.

But when you take out a student loan and don't pay it back, then Biden
forgives the loan and steals money from the taxpayers to pay it back for you,
that's not a crime.

Clown world.
trotsky
2024-03-28 19:22:45 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
If fraud was committed in the process, which it was, of course it's a
crime. I can see why you weren't able to pass the bar exam, you're an
idiot.
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But when you take out a student loan and don't pay it back, then Biden
forgives the loan and steals money from the taxpayers to pay it back for you,
that's not a crime.
Clown world.
False equivalence world. Who in these scenarios lies about being a
billionaire?
shawn
2024-03-28 19:44:01 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
BTR1701
2024-03-28 20:40:49 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with hi
again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
It's not the borrower's job to make sure the property is valued correctly
It's the lender's. When I refinanced my mortgage, the bank didn't just take m
word for the value of my property. They sent out an appraiser to determine it
value. If the banks in Trump's case didn't bother to do their due diligenc
and just trusted the borrower's valuation, how is that Trump's fault?
trotsky
2024-03-28 20:44:52 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
It's not the borrower's job to make sure the property is valued correctly.
It's the lender's. When I refinanced my mortgage, the bank didn't just take my
word for the value of my property. They sent out an appraiser to determine its
value. If the banks in Trump's case didn't bother to do their due diligence
and just trusted the borrower's valuation, how is that Trump's fault?
A judge will make that determination, or a jury. There's no fucking way
you're a lawyer.
FPP
2024-03-29 14:09:32 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
   Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
   systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in
order to
   deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none
of them ever
   made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him
again).
   Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation
for Trump's
   buildings is a "guessing game".
  Bullshit.  He lied.
  For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
  valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
It's not the borrower's job to make sure the property is valued correctly.
It's the lender's. When I refinanced my mortgage, the bank didn't just take my
word for the value of my property. They sent out an appraiser to determine its
value. If the banks in Trump's case didn't bother to do their due diligence
and just trusted the borrower's valuation, how is that Trump's fault?
A judge will make that determination, or a jury.  There's no fucking way
you're a lawyer.
Thanny thinks it's OK to lie to banks and tax assessors now. Because
his Law School apparently never covered financial fraud crimes.

I think he got his license from an Arby's.
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trotsky
2024-03-29 17:50:38 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
   Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
   systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties
in order to
   deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none
of them ever
   made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him
again).
   Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper
valuation for Trump's
   buildings is a "guessing game".
  Bullshit.  He lied.
  For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
  valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
It's not the borrower's job to make sure the property is valued correctly.
It's the lender's. When I refinanced my mortgage, the bank didn't just take my
word for the value of my property. They sent out an appraiser to determine its
value. If the banks in Trump's case didn't bother to do their due diligence
and just trusted the borrower's valuation, how is that Trump's fault?
A judge will make that determination, or a jury.  There's no fucking
way you're a lawyer.
Thanny thinks it's OK to lie to banks and tax assessors now.  Because
his Law School apparently never covered financial fraud crimes.
I think he got his license from an Arby's.
He either dropped out of law school, didn't pass the bar, or both.
FPP
2024-03-29 14:08:11 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
It's not the borrower's job to make sure the property is valued correctly.
It's the lender's. When I refinanced my mortgage, the bank didn't just take my
word for the value of my property. They sent out an appraiser to determine its
value. If the banks in Trump's case didn't bother to do their due diligence
and just trusted the borrower's valuation, how is that Trump's fault?
Yes it is. Ask any accountant. The borrower has to sign the
valuations, like the Trump's did.
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FPP
2024-03-29 14:07:22 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for what
he shorted the state.

Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.

Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
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Gracie, age 6.
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trotsky
2024-03-29 17:48:30 UTC
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  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in
order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with
him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation
for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for what
he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
FPP
2024-03-30 16:28:35 UTC
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  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in
order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with
him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation
for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for what
he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah. Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.

He's part of the plan...
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Gracie, age 6.
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trotsky
2024-03-30 20:13:01 UTC
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  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in
order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none
of them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation
for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
FPP
2024-03-31 13:39:22 UTC
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  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties
in order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none
of them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper
valuation for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background? If you did, you wouldn't even ask...

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GOP extremists have long praised Garland. In 2017, after Trump fired James Comey, Mitch McConnell suggested that Garland become the FBI director.
“I have spoken with the president about it. I recommended Merrick Garland,” McConnell said in May 2017. He recited the propaganda line that Garland “was the prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing case.” (Garland was not. The lead prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing case was Joseph Hartzler, and how that lie gets circulated will be explained later.) McConnell added that Garland “would make it clear that President Trump will continue the tradition at the FBI of having an apolitical professional.”
McConnell is not the only Republican linked to Russian oligarchs to praise Garland. In 2010, when Garland was being considered for the Supreme Court, Republican operative Joseph DiGenova commended Garland as “a profoundly serious guy” who would be a great addition to the court.
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as “a good man” and said he was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge. God, I hope Jack Smith isn't one too...
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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trotsky
2024-03-31 17:26:50 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties
in order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none
of them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper
valuation for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits
that COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie
and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild
doesn't want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background?  If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
What was I asking?
Post by trotsky
GOP extremists have long praised Garland. In 2017, after Trump fired
James Comey, Mitch McConnell suggested that Garland become the FBI
director.
“I have spoken with the president about it. I recommended Merrick
Garland,” McConnell said in May 2017. He recited the propaganda line
that Garland “was the prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing case.”
(Garland was not. The lead prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing
case was Joseph Hartzler, and how that lie gets circulated will be
explained later.) McConnell added that Garland “would make it clear
that President Trump will continue the tradition at the FBI of having
an apolitical professional.”
McConnell is not the only Republican linked to Russian oligarchs to
praise Garland. In 2010, when Garland was being considered for the
Supreme Court, Republican operative Joseph DiGenova commended Garland
as “a profoundly serious guy” who would be a great addition to the court.
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as “a good man” and said
he was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.  God, I hope Jack Smith isn't one too...
FPP
2024-04-01 14:26:56 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties
in order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and
none of them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper
valuation for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits
that COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie
and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild
doesn't want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on
SCOTUS but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background?  If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
What was I asking?
Post by trotsky
GOP extremists have long praised Garland. In 2017, after Trump fired
James Comey, Mitch McConnell suggested that Garland become the FBI
director.
“I have spoken with the president about it. I recommended Merrick
Garland,” McConnell said in May 2017. He recited the propaganda line
that Garland “was the prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing case.”
(Garland was not. The lead prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing
case was Joseph Hartzler, and how that lie gets circulated will be
explained later.) McConnell added that Garland “would make it clear
that President Trump will continue the tradition at the FBI of having
an apolitical professional.”
McConnell is not the only Republican linked to Russian oligarchs to
praise Garland. In 2010, when Garland was being considered for the
Supreme Court, Republican operative Joseph DiGenova commended Garland
as “a profoundly serious guy” who would be a great addition to the court.
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as “a good man” and
said he was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.  God, I hope Jack Smith isn't one too...
Republicans love Garland. They keep bringing him up for everything.
And I think we know why now.
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0

Gracie, age 6.
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trotsky
2024-04-02 08:32:36 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and
none of them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper
valuation for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits
that COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't
lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild
doesn't want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on
SCOTUS but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background?  If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
What was I asking?
Post by trotsky
GOP extremists have long praised Garland. In 2017, after Trump fired
James Comey, Mitch McConnell suggested that Garland become the FBI
director.
“I have spoken with the president about it. I recommended Merrick
Garland,” McConnell said in May 2017. He recited the propaganda line
that Garland “was the prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing case.”
(Garland was not. The lead prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing
case was Joseph Hartzler, and how that lie gets circulated will be
explained later.) McConnell added that Garland “would make it clear
that President Trump will continue the tradition at the FBI of
having an apolitical professional.”
McConnell is not the only Republican linked to Russian oligarchs to
praise Garland. In 2010, when Garland was being considered for the
Supreme Court, Republican operative Joseph DiGenova commended
Garland as “a profoundly serious guy” who would be a great addition
to the court.
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as “a good man” and
said he was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.  God, I hope Jack Smith isn't one too...
Republicans love Garland.  They keep bringing him up for everything.
And I think we know why now.
Who are you quoting? I never said Garland is a stooge.
FPP
2024-04-02 10:21:29 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on
the notion he
  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to
  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and
none of them ever
  made complaints against him and all said they'd do
business with him again).
  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper
valuation for Trump's
  buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit.  He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up
for what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits
that COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't
lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild
doesn't want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on
SCOTUS but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background?  If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
What was I asking?
Post by trotsky
GOP extremists have long praised Garland. In 2017, after Trump
fired James Comey, Mitch McConnell suggested that Garland become
the FBI director.
“I have spoken with the president about it. I recommended Merrick
Garland,” McConnell said in May 2017. He recited the propaganda
line that Garland “was the prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing
case.” (Garland was not. The lead prosecutor in the Oklahoma City
bombing case was Joseph Hartzler, and how that lie gets circulated
will be explained later.) McConnell added that Garland “would make
it clear that President Trump will continue the tradition at the
FBI of having an apolitical professional.”
McConnell is not the only Republican linked to Russian oligarchs to
praise Garland. In 2010, when Garland was being considered for the
Supreme Court, Republican operative Joseph DiGenova commended
Garland as “a profoundly serious guy” who would be a great addition
to the court.
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as “a good man” and
said he was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.  God, I hope Jack Smith isn't one too...
Republicans love Garland.  They keep bringing him up for everything.
And I think we know why now.
Who are you quoting?  I never said Garland is a stooge.
No, I said he was a stooge. Republicans love him. Trump loves him.
Why the fuck hasn't he been shit-canned?
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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BTR1701
2024-03-31 20:28:10 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to deceive lenders (even though all lenders
were repaid and none of them ever made complaints against him and
all said they'd do business with him again). Now, the New York
Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest,
that's a crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background? If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
Post by trotsky
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as "a good man" and said he
was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.
And yet back in the 2010s you wanted this stooge on the nation's highest
court.
moviePig
2024-03-31 21:17:50 UTC
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Post by shawn
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Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to deceive lenders (even though all lenders
were repaid and none of them ever made complaints against him and
all said they'd do business with him again). Now, the New York
Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest,
that's a crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background? If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
Post by trotsky
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as "a good man" and said he
was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.
And yet back in the 2010s you wanted this stooge on the nation's highest
court.
Yes. In context of the alternative that emerged, abso-fucking-lutely.
FPP
2024-04-01 14:27:47 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to deceive lenders (even though all lenders
were repaid and none of them ever made complaints against him and
all said they'd do business with him again). Now, the New York
Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest,
that's a crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background? If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
Post by trotsky
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as "a good man" and said he
was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.
And yet back in the 2010s you wanted this stooge on the nation's highest
court.
Obama wanted him because he knew he had the Republican votes for him.

Until Mitch decided stealing the seat was even better.
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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BTR1701
2024-04-01 20:04:17 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to deceive lenders (even though all lenders
were repaid and none of them ever made complaints against him and
all said they'd do business with him again). Now, the New York
Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest,
that's a crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background? If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
Post by trotsky
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as "a good man" and said he
was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.
And yet back in the 2010s you wanted this stooge on the nation's highest
court.
Obama wanted him
And so did you. We have many, many Usenet posts attesting to it.
FPP
2024-04-01 21:34:41 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the
notion he systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his
properties in order to deceive lenders (even though all lenders
were repaid and none of them ever made complaints against him and
all said they'd do business with him again). Now, the New York
Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest,
that's a crime.
As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.
And he made the people of New York pick up the tab to make up for
what he shorted the state.
Shorted on taxes, cheated banks out of their profits... profits that
COULD have been lent out to other New Yorkers, who didn't lie and cheat.
Trump cheated and made those that didn't cheat pick up the slack.
Is there a reason it took this long to bring him to justice?
Yeah.  Not a good reason... but the reason is Merrick the Mild doesn't
want to ruffle any feathers.
He's part of the plan...
I don't think Garland was ever cut out for this, he belonged on SCOTUS
but McConnell screwed him by committing an act of sedition.
Do you know Garland's background? If you did, you wouldn't even ask...
Post by trotsky
In October 2021, Donald Trump praised Garland as "a good man" and said he
was glad Garland was Attorney General.
Garland is a stooge.
And yet back in the 2010s you wanted this stooge on the nation's highest
court.
Obama wanted him
And so did you. We have many, many Usenet posts attesting to it.
I wanted the normal process. You know... the one where all the other
justices were nominated, given a hearing and voted on in committee.

Mitch and the Republicans decided the first black president was too
uppity to get what every other president got.
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0

Gracie, age 6.
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FPP
2024-03-29 14:05:07 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
But when you take out a student loan and don't pay it back, then Biden
forgives the loan and steals money from the taxpayers to pay it back for you,
that's not a crime.
Clown world.
Yup. Trump committed fraud to save him money on taxes, and to get
favorable loans. That's called a "crime" for you "supposed lawyers".

Forgiving debt is perfectly legal. Just ask all those rich Republicans
who got their PPP loans forgiven. They'll explain it to you in small
words you can understand.

Absent that, do you want me to get some pictures for you?
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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BTR1701
2024-03-29 18:07:18 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order
to deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
But when you take out a student loan and don't pay it back, then Biden
forgives the loan and steals money from the taxpayers to pay it back for
you, that's not a crime.
Clown world.
Yup. Trump committed fraud to save him money on taxes, and to get
favorable loans. That's called a "crime" for you "supposed lawyers".
Forgiving debt is perfectly legal.
Especially when you do it with taxpayer money to buy votes for Democrats
in an election year, amirite?
FPP
2024-03-30 16:31:28 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order
to deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
Bullshit. He lied.
For loans, he inflated his valuations. For taxes, he lowered his
valuations.
So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
crime.
But when you take out a student loan and don't pay it back, then Biden
forgives the loan and steals money from the taxpayers to pay it back for
you, that's not a crime.
Clown world.
Yup. Trump committed fraud to save him money on taxes, and to get
favorable loans. That's called a "crime" for you "supposed lawyers".
Forgiving debt is perfectly legal.
Especially when you do it with taxpayer money to buy votes for Democrats
in an election year, amirite?
Ask the Republicans who took hundreds of thousand dollars of PPP money.

The president has the power to forgive some debts. As Mitch McConnell
will tell you, if it's Constitutional, and not against the law, it's
perfectly fine with him.
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NoBody
2024-03-26 11:22:52 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.

About sums the whole thing up.
suzeeq
2024-03-26 14:42:45 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties. But
experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-03-26 16:15:44 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?

I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.

Does New York still have a personal property tax?
suzeeq
2024-03-26 16:37:45 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I heard it on a news show, and it's been a couplethree months ago.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He undervalued the properties for taxes purposes, and overvalued them
for loan purposes.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Does New York still have a personal property tax?
Guess so.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-03-26 17:57:48 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with
him again).
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I heard it on a news show, and it's been a couplethree months ago.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He undervalued the properties for taxes purposes, and overvalued them
for loan purposes.
You can't undervalue real property for tax purposes. The assessor
doesn't work for Trump.
Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Does New York still have a personal property tax?
Guess so.
shawn
2024-03-26 17:03:03 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Does New York still have a personal property tax?
I don't know, but wouldn't be surprised to find out they have a tax on
the personal property tax.

Jon Stewart actually did a good job covering this issue in a clip from
his show from last night.

BTR1701
2024-03-26 18:04:38 UTC
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Adam H. Kerman
2024-03-26 18:00:31 UTC
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Post by shawn
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
State income taxes in many but not all states require making
calculations for the federal tax return first, then finishing the state
return. Reporting on the federal return can be a state issue for that
reason, plus IRS shares data for tax collection purposes with state
revenuers.
FPP
2024-03-28 14:30:26 UTC
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Post by shawn
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
--
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Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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BTR1701
2024-03-28 17:51:48 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order
to deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.

If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
FPP
2024-03-29 14:12:30 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order
to deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
They get to try him because he committed the crimes against them.

Loans weren't granted to New Yorkers because the money he should have
paid wasn't available to be lent out.

Taxpayers of New York had to make up the shortfall for the taxes he
didn't pay.

He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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BTR1701
2024-03-29 18:11:02 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order
to deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
FPP
2024-03-30 16:33:06 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by suzeeq
Post by NoBody
Post by BTR1701
Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order
to deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of
them ever made complaints against him and all said they'd do business
with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for
Trump's buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some
properties. But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing
game.
Well a liberal judge who decided upon guilt before the trial began
(and stated so at the start) guessed at the value of everything and
declared that the offense was so terrible that it required a
ridiculous fine that you have to post in full if you want to appeal
his stupidity.
About sums the whole thing up.
It's normal for a bond for the whole fine, plus interest, to be posted
for an appeal. He was already found guilty of fraud last year, the
latest trial was to determine the amount of the fine. They figured it
out by determining the amount of taxes that would have been owed, plus
the amount of interest on loans if the real amount of the property had
been stated in the first place.
Do you have the URL of that news article that you just read?
I didn't know the fraud case was also about underpayment of state taxes,
and I'm not sure how Trump's mis-appraisal resulted in a larger
underpayment of taxes. If he overstated the value, then his assessment
was too high and he overpaid property taxes.
He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
The case was taken and disposed of dipshit. Or don't you think the
Legal Eagles on Trump's team thought of this?

Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
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2024-03-30 20:59:13 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?

Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
trotsky
2024-03-31 08:57:44 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm

To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the
world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other
purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,



FPP is right, you're a moron.
BTR1701
2024-03-31 20:31:47 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the
world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other
purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.

When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
FPP
2024-04-01 14:28:47 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the
world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other
purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime. Aero-Planes, ya know.
Can't you read?
--
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BTR1701
2024-04-01 20:02:17 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the
company is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal
crime and the state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the
world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other
purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.

Oops...
FPP
2024-04-01 21:32:37 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the
company is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal
crime and the state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the
world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other
purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.
Oops...
I just provided you the text of the law that explains how crimes
committed on airplanes fall under Federal jurisdiction.

Twice.
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Gracie, age 6.
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BTR1701
2024-04-02 19:47:58 UTC
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Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around
the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for
other purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.
Oops...
I just provided you the text of the law that explains how crimes
committed on airplanes fall under Federal jurisdiction.
But they weren't charged with interfering with an air crew. They were
charged with terrorism, which is what gave the federal government its
jurisdiction.
FPP
2024-04-03 09:36:14 UTC
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Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around
the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for
other purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.
Oops...
I just provided you the text of the law that explains how crimes
committed on airplanes fall under Federal jurisdiction.
But they weren't charged with interfering with an air crew. They were
charged with terrorism, which is what gave the federal government its
jurisdiction.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
And I told you why. What the eventually charged is irrelevant. Crimes
committed on airlines are Federal crimes.

Trump was tried in NY because the crimes were committed there, and the
damage was done there. NY was cheated out of money he owed them, so he
was charged there.

What's so hard to understand?
--
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BTR1701
2024-04-03 17:56:54 UTC
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Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around
the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for
other purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.
Oops...
I just provided you the text of the law that explains how crimes
committed on airplanes fall under Federal jurisdiction.
But they weren't charged with interfering with an air crew. They were
charged with terrorism, which is what gave the federal government its
jurisdiction.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
And I told you why.
They were charged with terrorism because they committed terrorism.
FPP
2024-04-03 23:24:27 UTC
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Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around
the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for
other purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.
Oops...
I just provided you the text of the law that explains how crimes
committed on airplanes fall under Federal jurisdiction.
But they weren't charged with interfering with an air crew. They were
charged with terrorism, which is what gave the federal government its
jurisdiction.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal
court jurisdiction?
And I told you why.
They were charged with terrorism because they committed terrorism.
By hijacking planes.
--
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Gracie, age 6.
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The Horny Goat
2024-04-04 19:03:17 UTC
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They were charged with terrorism because they committed terrorism.
By hijacking planes.
Well they certainly don't lay charges when they're not stone cold
certain on guilt.
FPP
2024-04-05 00:26:54 UTC
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They were charged with terrorism because they committed terrorism.
By hijacking planes.
Well they certainly don't lay charges when they're not stone cold
certain on guilt.
Nobody on those planes survived to be charged with anything.
And, yeah, people are charged and acquitted every single day.
--
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Gracie, age 6.
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The Horny Goat
2024-04-06 07:14:12 UTC
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They were charged with terrorism because they committed terrorism.
By hijacking planes.
Well they certainly don't lay charges when they're not stone cold
certain on guilt.
They also don't lay charges when they're quite sure the perps have
been burnt to cinders as was the case on 9/11.

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2024-04-02 08:46:38 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the
company is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal
crime and the state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.htm
To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the
world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other
purposes. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2001 - [H.R. 3162]>>
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America <<NOTE: Uniting and Strengthening America by
Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
(USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001.>> in Congress assembled,
Looky there, Effa. Even Hutt knows why the federal government, not the
state of New York, prosecuted the 9-11 crimes.
When you find yourself more ignorant than Hutt, that should be one of
those watershed moments in life that cause you to do some serious
self-reflection.
9-11 was a federal crime.
So is evading federal taxes and lying to the IRS.
Oops...
Damn, Oath Keeper Twat, you're really giving me a swelled head now.
Apparently you're so terrified of me you can only respond to me by
mentions in response to other people. I can't even imagine how scared
shitless you must be when I respond to you directly.
FPP
2024-03-31 13:44:13 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
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He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
Duuuuuuhhhhh! I can't believe I have to explain the law to a lawyer...

The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.

State lines?
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2024-03-31 20:29:46 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.
Bzzzt! Wrong. It's because the charges were terrorism and the federal
government has exclusive jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute
terrorism.
FPP
2024-04-01 14:32:08 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.
Bzzzt! Wrong. It's because the charges were terrorism and the federal
government has exclusive jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute
terrorism.
Crimes were federal because aviation belongs to the Feds, as the fact
that they crossed state lines.

For fuck's sake LEARN TO READ!
Post by BTR1701
Federal law makes it a crime for you to commit certain acts aboard an aircraft. For example, you commit a criminal offense if you interfere with crew members by means of assault or intimidation. These crimes are serious offenses that can result in decades in federal prison. Please contact a skilled criminal defense attorney now if you are facing any charge under federal law.
What Are the Federal Laws on Crimes on Planes?
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. As a result, crimes involving planes and airports are usually prosecuted in federal courts.
There are numerous charges you could face when misbehaving and causing trouble on an airplane. Perhaps the most severe crime involves piracy, which means violently seizing control of a plane in flight.
Interference with crew members or attendants through assault or intimidation,
Interference with airport security screeners through assault,
Possessing or placing a weapon or explosive on a plane, and
Conduct that would constitute any of certain enumerated crimes (such as assault, murder, manslaughter, theft, robbery, or sexual abuse) if it occurred on an airplane that was located in the U.S.
These guys, unlike you, are real lawyers.

https://www.blacklawseattle.com/federal-law-regarding-crimes-on-planes/#:~:text=As%20a%20result%2C%20crimes%20involving,of%20a%20plane%20in%20flight.
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2024-04-01 20:03:16 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.
Bzzzt! Wrong. It's because the charges were terrorism and the federal
government has exclusive jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute
terrorism.
Crimes were federal because aviation belongs to the Feds, as the fact
that they crossed state lines.
No the cimes were federal because they were charged with violations of
the U.S. Code, specifically terrorism.
FPP
2024-04-01 21:37:39 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.
Bzzzt! Wrong. It's because the charges were terrorism and the federal
government has exclusive jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute
terrorism.
Crimes were federal because aviation belongs to the Feds, as the fact
that they crossed state lines.
No the cimes were federal because they were charged with violations of
the U.S. Code, specifically terrorism.
Keep repeating your bullshit. I'll just keep posting citations and facts.
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Gracie, age 6.
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FPP
2024-04-01 21:39:02 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.
Bzzzt! Wrong. It's because the charges were terrorism and the federal
government has exclusive jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute
terrorism.
Crimes were federal because aviation belongs to the Feds, as the fact
that they crossed state lines.
No the cimes were federal because they were charged with violations of
the U.S. Code, specifically terrorism.
Instant classic.


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"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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trotsky
2024-04-02 08:47:35 UTC
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He overstated the value to the banks and understated (or stated
correctly) the value to the IRS.
The IRS is a federal agency. How does the state of New York have
jurisdiction to prosecute a federal tax case?
Where is the Trump Org situated again?
Doesn't matter.
If the Trump Org engaged in counterfeiting currency, the NY D.A.
wouldn't have authority to prosecute that crime just because the company
is registered in New York. Counterfeiting is a federal crime and the
state doesn't have jurisdiction over it.
But he didn't. He screwed the people and New York.
If the company passed counterfeit currency in New York, it would have
screwed the people of New York. If the company passed counterfeit
currency at city-run facilities, that would have screwed over the
government of New York. That still wouldn't give New York jurisdiction
over a federal crime.
No response here, I see. Convenient.
Post by BTR1701
He screwed New York, not the Federal Government.
Jurisdiction is not determined by who was "screwed over", dipshit.
Crime committed in NY. It cheated the taxpayers and banks in NY...
dum-dum.
So why was the 9-11 investigation and prosecutions FBI and federal court
jurisdiction?
Crime committed in NY. It killed the people and destroyed the buildings
in NY...
The federal government regulates aviation activities nationwide. Thus,
crimes involving planes and airports usually are prosecuted in federal
courts.
Bzzzt! Wrong. It's because the charges were terrorism and the federal
government has exclusive jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute
terrorism.
Crimes were federal because aviation belongs to the Feds, as the fact
that they crossed state lines.
No the cimes were federal because they were charged with violations of
the U.S. Code, specifically terrorism.
Glad I could educate you on that one.
Ubiquitous
2024-03-26 09:28:38 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties.
But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
No shit. Wasn't the person whose campaign platform was "I'm going to put
President trump in jail"?

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Ubiquitous
2024-03-28 01:15:26 UTC
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Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
buildings is a "guessing game".
https://ibb.co/tJkZL5d
Untangling Trump's Real Estate
Donald Trump owes $454 million by Monday or risks losing some properties.
But experts say valuing the buildings would be a guessing game.
John Stewart better keep a close eye on this case!

Jon Stewart, who once pronounced, “The thing about a moral compass
is you take it out and check it from time to time. You don’t have
to wait for history to show you you’re headed in the wrong
direction,” and also mocked Donald Trump over accusations that he
inflated the value of his real estate, has been blasted after news
broke that he allegedly overvalued his own New York City penthouse
by an enormous 829%.

Ruh-RO!

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