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Robin Miller
2025-02-27 11:52:38 UTC
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Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were found
dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office
told CNN. He was 95.

Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to be
foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.

Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased,
Womack-Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
shawn
2025-02-27 12:32:58 UTC
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Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were found
dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office
told CNN. He was 95.
Damn, I know the guy wasn't performing any more but still.
Post by Robin Miller
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to be
foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased,
Womack-Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
I wonder if they suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning? That would
explain all three dying from what otherwise sounds like a non-violent
death.
Ian J. Ball
2025-02-27 15:15:37 UTC
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 06:52:38 -0500, Robin Miller
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Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were found
dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office
told CNN. He was 95.
Damn, I know the guy wasn't performing any more but still.
Post by Robin Miller
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to be
foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased,
Womack-Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
I wonder if they suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning? That would
explain all three dying from what otherwise sounds like a non-violent
death.
That's my thought too - the only way the dog also dies under "non-foul
play" circumstances is something like CO poisoning.

But he made it to 95. (His wife only made it to her 60s.)

I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
Adam H. Kerman
2025-02-27 17:49:27 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.

More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Robin Miller
2025-02-27 18:11:54 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do so
by his doctor.

But here are some startling new developments:


“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak

https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-police-1236303855/

Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.

Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had not
been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of a
home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.

“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.


--Robin
Ian J. Ball
2025-02-27 18:41:02 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do so
by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-
police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had not
been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of a
home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed herself
(and a dog)?!...
Robin Miller
2025-02-27 18:53:37 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-
police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications
of a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the
cops do believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require
a thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found
the front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies
observed a healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy
dog near the deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from
the deceased female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being
moved, the pill bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the
female, the male decedent being located in a separate room of the
residence, and no obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed herself
(and a dog)?!...
Or that it was a family suicide--or worse case, that he was ready to go
and took his wife and dog with him.

--Robin
Your Name
2025-02-27 21:48:27 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
anim8rfsk
2025-02-27 23:14:47 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
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moviePig
2025-02-27 23:24:50 UTC
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Post by Ian J. Ball
. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
anim8rfsk
2025-02-28 15:42:52 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Nope
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anim8rfsk
2025-02-28 15:42:53 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Maybe PETA killed the dog. Or Instacart.
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moviePig
2025-02-28 17:38:04 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Maybe PETA killed the dog. Or Instacart.
Maybe someone read the pill bottle and misapplied 'expiration date'...
anim8rfsk
2025-03-01 00:42:50 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
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I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Maybe PETA killed the dog. Or Instacart.
Maybe someone read the pill bottle and misapplied 'expiration date'...
Both PETA and Instacart are known for going to peoples homes and killing
their dogs
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2025-03-01 01:52:14 UTC
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I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Maybe PETA killed the dog. Or Instacart.
Maybe someone read the pill bottle and misapplied 'expiration date'...
Both PETA and Instacart are known for going to peoples homes and killing
their dogs
Sadly the latest I heard made it sound like one of the dogs was in a
cage and may have died from dehydration after Hackman and his wife
died.
Robin Miller
2025-03-01 02:05:13 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Maybe PETA killed the dog. Or Instacart.
Maybe someone read the pill bottle and misapplied 'expiration date'...
Both PETA and Instacart are known for going to peoples homes and killing
their dogs
Sadly the latest I heard made it sound like one of the dogs was in a
cage and may have died from dehydration after Hackman and his wife
died.
That's horrible.

--Robin
moviePig
2025-03-01 03:09:16 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
I can't fit all those circumstances into any reasonable scenario.
Maybe PETA killed the dog. Or Instacart.
Maybe someone read the pill bottle and misapplied 'expiration date'...
Both PETA and Instacart are known for going to peoples homes and killing
their dogs
I know. I got your joke and tried to make one, too. (The new
information about the dogs makes that a bit harder, though.)
Your Name
2025-02-28 03:38:47 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
It says the front door was open, but the outside dog might have been in
a fenced in area out the back. :-)

But I did misread about the second live dog inside the house.
Your Name
2025-02-28 03:40:15 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
It says the front door was open, but the outside dog might have been in
a fenced in area out the back. :-)
Or, maybe the front door was open, but internal doors were shut.
Post by Your Name
But I did misread about the second live dog inside the house.
Robin Miller
2025-02-28 04:43:44 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By
Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar
winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the
decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no
indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death
of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Perhaps she simply dropped the pill bottle and the dogs ate some
themselves. That would explain why the dog outside is still alive
(assuming al the dorrs were shut).
The article said the people that found them called it in because the door
was standing open
It says the front door was open, but the outside dog might have been
in a fenced in area out the back.  :-)
Or, maybe the front door was open, but internal doors were shut.
Post by Your Name
But I did misread about the second live dog inside the house.
Now this article quotes the maintenance worker who called 911 and told
the operator that the house was locked up:

https://news.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/gene-hackman-betsy-arakawa-harrowing-183926752.html
Post by Your Name
As the dispatcher paused to call for the paramedics, the caller began crying while repeatedly saying, “Damn.”
However, the man didn’t seem to have a personal connection to Hackman, 95, and Arakawa, 64, as he could not tell the dispatcher any personal details about them.
“[It’s] a female and a male probably. I don’t know, sir. Just send somebody up here really quick,” he said.
The caller said he had “no idea” if the two were “awake” or “breathing” because he “was not inside the house” with them.
“[The house] is closed. It’s locked. I can’t go in,” he said. “But I see that she is lying down on the floor from the window.”
He insisted they were not “awake” or “alert” and saw no signs of movement.
“No, dude, they’re not moving!” he said while growing increasingly concerned. “Just send somebody out here really quick!”
As usual when something has just happened, the facts are unclear. But it
does sound as though they may have been dead for a while.

--Robin
moviePig
2025-02-27 21:52:58 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-
police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner’s
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications
of a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the
cops do believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require
a thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found
the front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies
observed a healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy
dog near the deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from
the deceased female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being
moved, the pill bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the
female, the male decedent being located in a separate room of the
residence, and no obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed herself
(and a dog)?!...
Why, then, would pills be scattered? And, being scattered, might we
suppose that their taste appealed to only the one dog?
Your Name
2025-02-27 22:11:00 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do
so by his doctor.
“Suspicious Enough”: Gene Hackman & Wife’s Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious- police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman‘s death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar
winner’s home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one
of their dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on the Hackman’s property reported the decomposed
bodies in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had
not been seen for a few weeks, sources say. There are no indications of
a home invasion or anything like that, sources tell me, but the cops do
believe more in going on than first assumed.
“Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak,” the document adds.
--Robin
So, one read of that is that he died (naturally), and she killed
herself (and a dog)?!...
Why, then, would pills be scattered? And, being scattered, might we
suppose that their taste appealed to only the one dog?
Dogs do have different tastes and personalities. One might well eat the
pills while another wouldn't.
Adam H. Kerman
2025-02-27 19:01:00 UTC
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. . .
[Gene Hackman]
Post by Ian J. Ball
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
More like he wasn't working due to circumstances.
Deadline says he retired for health reasons after being advised to do so
by his doctor.
I wonder if the doctor was wrong about medical necessity given his long
life.
Post by Robin Miller
"Suspicious Enough": Gene Hackman & Wife's Deaths Probed By Cops;
Scattered Pills Found, No Gas Leak
https://deadline.com/2025/02/gene-hackman-death-suspicious-police-1236303855/
Gene Hackman's death has raised enough suspicion among the Santa Fe
police that they have obtained a search warrant for the Oscar winner's
home after the nonagenarian, his wife Betsy Arakawa and one of their
dogs were found dead last night.
Two men who worked on Hackman's property reported the decomposed bodies
in the home on Wednesday. The 30-year long married couple had not been
seen for a few weeks, sources say.
There are no indications of a home invasion or anything like that,
sources tell me, but the cops do believe more is going on than first
assumed. . . .
"Affiant believes that the circumstances surrounding the death of the
two deceased individuals to be suspicious enough in nature to require a
thorough search and investigation because the reporting party found the
front door of the residence unsecured and opened, deputies observed a
healthy dog running loose on the property, another healthy dog near the
deceased female, a deceased dog laying 10-15 feet from the deceased
female in a closet of the bathroom, the heater being moved, the pill
bottle being opened and pills scattered next to the female, the male
decedent being located in a separate room of the residence, and no
obvious signs of a gas leak," the document adds.
From the search warrant application:

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/hackman-affidavit.pdf

Deputy Thomas advised the female decedent showed obvious signs of
death, body decomposition, bloating in her face and mumification
in both hands and feet.

I don't see how she could mummify her own hands.
Ubiquitous
2025-03-03 03:09:06 UTC
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I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
He didn't retire. I recall an interview he gave several years after his
final movie in which he complained he wasn't being offered any scripts.
It's not like he was unwilling to play supporting roles, which he had
done throughout his long career.
What about him saying he was having trouble memorizing scripts and
retiring do you not understand?

[Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

--
Don't jump!

Dimensional Traveler
2025-02-28 01:35:27 UTC
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https://news.yahoo.com/news/actor-gene-hackman-wife-betsy-092903724.html
Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were found
dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office
told CNN. He was 95.
Damn, I know the guy wasn't performing any more but still.
Post by Robin Miller
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to be
foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased,
Womack-Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
I wonder if they suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning? That would
explain all three dying from what otherwise sounds like a non-violent
death.
That's my thought too - the only way the dog also dies under "non-foul
play" circumstances is something like CO poisoning.
But he made it to 95. (His wife only made it to her 60s.)
I do wish he hadn't totally retired, but it's likely best for his legacy
that he did.
Two other dogs in the house were just fine.
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
Your Name
2025-02-28 22:57:59 UTC
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Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were
found dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s
Office told CNN. He was 95.
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to
be foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased,
Womack-Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
It was not carbon monoxide poisoning and Gene Hackman's pacemaker
recorded its last event on February 17, so that is likely the day he
died. The final toxicology and autopsy reports "could be a month or
three months or longer".
<https://variety.com/2025/film/news/gene-hackman-wife-test-negative-carbon-monoxide-pacemaker-stopped-1236323847/>
Ian J. Ball
2025-02-28 23:40:32 UTC
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https://news.yahoo.com/news/actor-gene-hackman-wife-betsy-092903724.html
Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were
found dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s
Office told CNN. He was 95.
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to
be foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased, Womack-
Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
It was not carbon monoxide poisoning and Gene Hackman's pacemaker
recorded its last event on February 17, so that is likely the day he
died. The final toxicology and autopsy reports "could be a month or
three months or longer".
<https://variety.com/2025/film/news/gene-hackman-wife-test-negative-
carbon-monoxide-pacemaker-stopped-1236323847/>
Love the specificity!

"We should get the report back next month... Or maybe 3 months from now!!"

[roll]
moviePig
2025-02-28 23:57:35 UTC
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https://news.yahoo.com/news/actor-gene-hackman-wife-betsy-092903724.html
Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were
found dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s
Office told CNN. He was 95.
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to
be foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased, Womack-
Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
It was not carbon monoxide poisoning and Gene Hackman's pacemaker
recorded its last event on February 17, so that is likely the day he
died. The final toxicology and autopsy reports "could be a month or
three months or longer".
<https://variety.com/2025/film/news/gene-hackman-wife-test-negative-
carbon-monoxide-pacemaker-stopped-1236323847/>
Love the specificity!
"We should get the report back next month... Or maybe 3 months from now!!"
[roll]
Depends on whether it's released on Amazon or Netflix.
Adam H. Kerman
2025-03-01 01:49:59 UTC
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It was not carbon monoxide poisoning and Gene Hackman's pacemaker
recorded its last event on February 17, so that is likely the day he
died. The final toxicology and autopsy reports "could be a month or
three months or longer".
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/gene-hackman-wife-test-negative-carbon-monoxide-pacemaker-stopped-1236323847/
Love the specificity!
"We should get the report back next month... Or maybe 3 months from now!!"
[roll]
I don't understand how on tv they get tox screens back after the next
commercial break. We have the technology!
Robin Miller
2025-03-01 02:12:18 UTC
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https://news.yahoo.com/news/actor-gene-hackman-wife-betsy-092903724.html
Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were
found dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s
Office told CNN. He was 95.
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to
be foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased,
Womack-Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
It was not carbon monoxide poisoning and Gene Hackman's pacemaker
recorded its last event on February 17, so that is likely the day he
died. The final toxicology and autopsy reports "could be a month or
three months or longer".
<https://variety.com/2025/film/news/gene-hackman-wife-test-negative-carbon-monoxide-pacemaker-stopped-1236323847/>
The articles I've read suggest that they both died where they dropped,
in different rooms. That would have to be poisoning of some kind. If it
had been a joint suicide they would have been together. So what could
have killed them like that, and is there any way it could have been
accidental?

--Robin
moviePig
2025-03-01 03:13:33 UTC
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https://news.yahoo.com/news/actor-gene-hackman-wife-betsy-092903724.html
Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were
found dead in their home in New Mexico, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s
Office told CNN. He was 95.
Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to
be foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Deputies responded to a welfare check request at the home around 1:45
p.m. Wednesday and found Hackman, Arakawa and a dog deceased, Womack-
Avila said. An investigation is ongoing, police said.
It was not carbon monoxide poisoning and Gene Hackman's pacemaker
recorded its last event on February 17, so that is likely the day he
died. The final toxicology and autopsy reports "could be a month or
three months or longer".
<https://variety.com/2025/film/news/gene-hackman-wife-test-negative-
carbon-monoxide-pacemaker-stopped-1236323847/>
The articles I've read suggest that they both died where they dropped,
in different rooms. That would have to be poisoning of some kind. If it
had been a joint suicide they would have been together. So what could
have killed them like that, and is there any way it could have been
accidental?
You'd have to account for the spilled pills. At a stretch, maybe they
got the dosage wrong and were trying to reexamine the label...
Alan Smithee
2025-03-01 12:23:49 UTC
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You'd have to account for the spilled pills. At a stretch, maybe they
got the dosage wrong and were trying to reexamine the label...
A police report said their front door was both unlocked and open.
Very strange...
Your Name
2025-03-01 21:22:20 UTC
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You'd have to account for the spilled pills. At a stretch, maybe they
got the dosage wrong and were trying to reexamine the label...
A police report said their front door was both unlocked and open.
Very strange...
But reportedly the person who phoned the police said the doors were
locked and he couldn't get in to check on the people he saw on the
floor through a window.

The problem is that the news media always rushes to be "first" rather
than actually being accurate, so is often full of misinformation. :-\
Ubiquitous
2025-03-03 03:05:56 UTC
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Their cause of death has not been confirmed but it is not believed to be
foul play, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Denise
Womack-Avila told CNN Thursday morning.
Barring some sort of suicide pact, it sounds like carbon monoxide
poisoning from a bad space heater.

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