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Noah Carter
2025-01-23 19:30:50 UTC
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Trump’s Immigration Plans Are
Already Wrecking the Food Industry
Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have
already negatively affected the
nation’s agricultural sector,
causing alarm that food prices
could skyrocket in the near
future as a result of Donald
Trump’s aggressive immigration
policies.
Bakersfield, California, saw a
massive drop-off in the number
of field workers showing up for
work Tuesday while ICE agents in
unmarked Chevy Suburbans rounded
up and detained immigrants in
the area, profiling individuals
they believed to be field workers,
reported CalMatters. The end
result: acres of unpicked oranges
roasting in the California sun at
the height of the season.
Bakersfield makes up a small
portion of California’s Central
Valley, which produces
approximately a quarter of the
nation’s food. Kern County,
where Bakersfield is located,
has ranked within the top three
agricultural counties in the
nation for the last several
years, largely off the backs of
undocumented laborers, who are
estimated to comprise more than
half of the county’s workforce,
according to CalMatters.
Undocumented workers have been
targeted walking in and out of
gas stations, getting breakfast,
at Home Depot, or while driving
along the 99 Highway, leaving
many with no other option than
to simply stay at home.
“We’re in the middle of our
citrus harvesting,” Casey
Creamer, president of the
industry group California
Citrus Mutual, told CalMatters.
“This sent shockwaves through
the entire community. People
aren’t going to work and kids
aren’t going to school.
Yesterday about 25 percent
of the workforce, today 75
percent didn’t show up.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/190555/donald-trump-immigration-deportations-
farm-workers
Force the lazy Trumpers to do the work. Don't spare the lash.
BTR1701
2025-01-23 19:51:43 UTC
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Trump's Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the Food Industry
Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively affected the nation's
agricultural sector, causing alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the
near future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive immigration policies.
Leftists never change.

1850s: "But without slaves, who will pick the crops?"

2020s: "But without illegal aliens, who will pick the crops?"
BTR1701
2025-02-28 22:08:07 UTC
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Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the Food Industry
Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively affected the nation's
agricultural sector, causing alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the
near future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive immigration policies.
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"

Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old, blue-haired,
Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in Intersectional Queerness who lives
in your basement?
Adam H. Kerman
2025-02-28 22:30:43 UTC
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. . .
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Can I point out for the 1,342nd time on Usenet that itinerant
agricultural laborers are NOT immigrants, legal or otherwise. They are
admitted into the United States as such, follow the harvesting from one
farm to the next. Their wages are not defined as earned income for the
purpose of the tax code. They are ineligible for Social Security
pensions and Medicare and are not issued SSNs. They leave the United
States when there is no more harvesting to be performed.

If they don't leave, only then do they become illegal.

Farmers successfully lobbied for this special treatment decades ago.
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Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old, blue-haired,
Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in Intersectional Queerness who lives
in your basement?
That's a scary image. Lemme check to see if my basement is so infested.
Pluted Pup
2025-03-01 23:58:54 UTC
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. . .
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Can I point out for the 1,342nd time on Usenet that itinerant
agricultural laborers are NOT immigrants, legal or otherwise. They are
admitted into the United States as such, follow the harvesting from one
farm to the next. Their wages are not defined as earned income for the
purpose of the tax code. They are ineligible for Social Security
pensions and Medicare and are not issued SSNs. They leave the United
States when there is no more harvesting to be performed.
If they don't leave, only then do they become illegal.
Yet again you mislead. Our primary news sources, that set the
standards in political language, the New York Times and the
Associated Press, etc., have banned any such terms as illegal immigrants.
All guest workers, as you are describing, legal or illegal, as
well as any sort of overstaying visas, with or without
permanent intent, as well as actual immigrants, legal or
otherwise, are all swallowed up into the single term "immigrant"
and the "New Republic" definitely falls into the "immigration is
always good" category of mainstream journalism.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Farmers successfully lobbied for this special treatment decades ago.
The immigration lobby scored this success, the lobby you say does not
exist.
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Post by BTR1701
Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old, blue-haired,
Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in Intersectional Queerness who lives
in your basement?
Could happen, but he'd need more of his kind on the
fields so he could feel comfortable; farm labor is
notoriously trans-phobic.
Nyssa
2025-03-01 15:28:41 UTC
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On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter"
Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the Food
Industry Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing alarm
that food prices could skyrocket in the near future as a
result of Donald Trump's aggressive immigration
policies.
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?
I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.

I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.

Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe
suzeeq
2025-03-01 15:57:40 UTC
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On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter"
Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the Food
Industry Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing alarm
that food prices could skyrocket in the near future as a
result of Donald Trump's aggressive immigration
policies.
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?
I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.
I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.
Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe
Right but you probably don't have a couple hundred acres of them.
Nyssa
2025-03-01 18:19:58 UTC
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Post by Nyssa
On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter"
Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the
Food Industry Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing
alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the near
future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive
immigration policies.
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?
I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.
I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.
Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe
Right but you probably don't have a couple hundred acres
of them.
Nope, but I know a farm near me does. They offer pick-it-
yourself and pre-picked to customers, with the self-picked
ones being a bit cheaper. Ditto during strawberry season.

Wnen I lived in SE MI, the local berry farms would hire
school kids to pick fruit after school and on weekends,
and regular hours during the summer.

Worked out fine for the kids, earning extra pocket money,
and since the kids were locals, if any of them had caused
trouble, their parents could be counted on to straighten
them out.

I guess these days the school kids either aren't capable
of that kind of thing or laws have changed to make it
harder for the farms to hire them. :/

Nyssa, who figures today's kids wouldn't be interested
in a job unless they could play with their iPhones while
they semi-worked
suzeeq
2025-03-01 18:47:42 UTC
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Post by Nyssa
On Jan 23, 2025 at 11:30:50 AM PST, "Noah Carter"
Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the
Food Industry Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing
alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the near
future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive
immigration policies.
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?
I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.
I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.
Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe
Right but you probably don't have a couple hundred acres
of them.
Nope, but I know a farm near me does. They offer pick-it-
yourself and pre-picked to customers, with the self-picked
ones being a bit cheaper. Ditto during strawberry season.
We have that not too far away E of Spokane. Strawberries mostly.
Post by Nyssa
Wnen I lived in SE MI, the local berry farms would hire
school kids to pick fruit after school and on weekends,
and regular hours during the summer.
Worked out fine for the kids, earning extra pocket money,
and since the kids were locals, if any of them had caused
trouble, their parents could be counted on to straighten
them out.
I guess these days the school kids either aren't capable
of that kind of thing or laws have changed to make it
harder for the farms to hire them. :/
No they don't seem to be. A lot of parents likely wouldn't allow it, either.
Post by Nyssa
Nyssa, who figures today's kids wouldn't be interested
in a job unless they could play with their iPhones while
they semi-worked
Yup.
Ubiquitous
2025-03-02 21:29:32 UTC
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Trump’s Immigration Plans Are Already Wrecking the
Food Industry Jan 22
Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively
affected the nation's agricultural sector, causing
alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the near
future as a result of Donald Trump's aggressive
immigration policies.
"Without illegals, who will pick the blueberries?"
Well, Karen, let's start with your jobless 22-year-old,
blue-haired, Reddit-addicted trans son with a degree in
Intersectional Queerness who lives in your basement?
I don't have any problem getting my blueberries picked
each summer.
I just let a couple neighbors know "if ya want 'em, come
pick 'em" and the problem is solved.
Nyssa, who has more problems keeping the mockingbirds
from picking them before they're ripe so the humans can
pick them when they are ripe
Right but you probably don't have a couple hundred acres
of them.
Nope, but I know a farm near me does. They offer pick-it-
yourself and pre-picked to customers, with the self-picked
ones being a bit cheaper. Ditto during strawberry season.
Wnen I lived in SE MI, the local berry farms would hire
school kids to pick fruit after school and on weekends,
and regular hours during the summer.
Worked out fine for the kids, earning extra pocket money,
and since the kids were locals, if any of them had caused
trouble, their parents could be counted on to straighten
them out.
Mom and her siblings all picked grapes for Welches at some point.
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Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
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