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NPR: 200 Palestinians killed and more than 400 wounded in Gaza by Israeli army
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Adam H. Kerman
2024-06-09 02:56:10 UTC
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This afternoon, I heard a report on NPR that headlined 200 Palestinians
killed and 400 wounded in an Israeli army operation in Gaza. This report
came from estimates by a nurse at the local hospital, which came from a
later version of the story posted on the NPR Web site. The radio report
emphasized corpses just lining hallways in the hospital.

The numbers may indeed be true. The operation was in an residential
neighborhood, so of course there were lots of deaths and injured
civilians.

In the Web story, the headline starts with the hostage rescue, then
discusses civilian deaths, far less anti-Israel's conduct of the war
than the radio version of the story.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/08/nx-s1-4997026/israel-gaza-hostages-rescued

We learn later in the radio story, after the report stopped emphasizing the
dead and wounded Palestinian civilians, that the Israeli army had rescued
four hostages who were held captive in a house in this neighborhood.

Here's AP's version of the story, emphasizing jubilance in Israel about
the good news of the hostage rescue.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-8-6-2024-a5d1ef04763a5ed17de2d050ebc5d490

This version of the story tells us that one of the rescued hostages, Noa
Argamani, 25, was the subject of several videos showing her abduction,
so everyone in Israel knew who she was.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/08/israel-gaza-hostages-rescued/
Adam H. Kerman
2024-06-09 20:46:50 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
This afternoon, I heard a report on NPR that headlined 200 Palestinians
killed and 400 wounded in an Israeli army operation in Gaza. This report
came from estimates by a nurse at the local hospital, which came from a
later version of the story posted on the NPR Web site. The radio report
emphasized corpses just lining hallways in the hospital.
The numbers may indeed be true. The operation was in an residential
neighborhood, so of course there were lots of deaths and injured
civilians.
In the Web story, the headline starts with the hostage rescue, then
discusses civilian deaths, far less anti-Israel's conduct of the war
than the radio version of the story.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/08/nx-s1-4997026/israel-gaza-hostages-rescued
We learn later in the radio story, after the report stopped emphasizing the
dead and wounded Palestinian civilians, that the Israeli army had rescued
four hostages who were held captive in a house in this neighborhood.
Here's AP's version of the story, emphasizing jubilance in Israel about
the good news of the hostage rescue.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-8-6-2024-a5d1ef04763a5ed17de2d050ebc5d490
This version of the story tells us that one of the rescued hostages, Noa
Argamani, 25, was the subject of several videos showing her abduction,
so everyone in Israel knew who she was.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/08/israel-gaza-hostages-rescued/
Today's story from AP

Gaza's Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed in Israeli raid
that rescued 4 hostages
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-06-09-2024-61eb1be9a9d0cf2dbf250cd4a8ed4dbf

At least the hostage rescue made it into the headline, even if
secondary. The first paragraph, second sentence, providing a summary
from the Israeli army that their forces came under heavy fire.

I'm sure the dead and wounded civilians were solely the responsibility of the
Israelis. By the second paragraph, the article generally emphasizes
civilian suffering during this mission.

In the fifth paragraph, we are reminded that the Hamas Health Ministry
does not distinguish between combatants and civilians in counting the
dead and wounded, nor is there independent verification of their
statements.

The location was one of those refugee camps from 1948 that became a
permanent camp.
The Horny Goat
2025-01-05 18:20:36 UTC
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 20:46:50 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
The location was one of those refugee camps from 1948 that became a
permanent camp.
Probably according to the definition of refugee that includes someone
who left their home in 1947-48, didn't return AND HIS/HER DIRECT
DESCENDANTS (with the part in caps being the definition that ONLY
applies to Palestinians particularly those of Gaza).

My father in law was a refugee back in his childhood - his family's
home town is in eastern Poland and after 5 years of waiting finally
got to come to Canada - 4 weeks after they left (and 2-3 months before
they arrived at their destination in semi-rural Saskatchewan where
winter had already started) their home and the entire town was in
German hands. Had they gone E instead of W they would have been in the
loving hands of the Red Army.

So according to the Gazan "definition" my late wife and my children
are refugees. That would certainly be news to them.
Danart
2025-01-05 22:29:43 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
This afternoon, I heard a report on NPR that headlined 20
Palestinian
Post by Adam H. Kerman
killed and 400 wounded in an Israeli army operation in Gaza. Thi
repor
Post by Adam H. Kerman
came from estimates by a nurse at the local hospital, which cam
from
Post by Adam H. Kerman
later version of the story posted on the NPR Web site. The radi
repor
Post by Adam H. Kerman
emphasized corpses just lining hallways in the hospital
The numbers may indeed be true. The operation was in an residentia
neighborhood, so of course there were lots of deaths and injure
civilians
In the Web story, the headline starts with the hostage rescue, the
discusses civilian deaths, far less anti-Israel's conduct of th
wa
Post by Adam H. Kerman
than the radio version of the story
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/08/nx-s1-4997026/israel-gaza-hostages-rescue
Post by Adam H. Kerman
We learn later in the radio story, after the report stoppe
emphasizing th
Post by Adam H. Kerman
dead and wounded Palestinian civilians, that the Israeli army ha
rescue
Post by Adam H. Kerman
four hostages who were held captive in a house in thi
neighborhood
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Here's AP's version of the story, emphasizing jubilance in Israe
abou
Post by Adam H. Kerman
the good news of the hostage rescue
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-8-6-2024-a5d1ef04763a5ed17de2d050ebc5d49
Post by Adam H. Kerman
This version of the story tells us that one of the rescue
hostages, No
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Argamani, 25, was the subject of several videos showing he
abduction
Post by Adam H. Kerman
so everyone in Israel knew who she was
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/08/israel-gaza-hostages-rescued

Zionis
Israel literally killed hostages running towards them for safety. Fo
all we know anybody "rescued" was literally some actor bein
used to show the military was making an effort. They are propagand
and lies.

IDF killed innocent babies, elderly, armless people, hospitals
schools, news towers. For nothing. They do not care about savin
anybodies lives at all.

Hamas ( akin to the IDF ) literally has shown they are peaceful an
released people prior. The bottom line is that Zionist Israel has bee
the violator since they shot two hellfire rockets into a building o
two hundred people.

Zionist Israel are communists, Supremacists and once Israel is don
they are going to disarm the United States, make everybody druggies
and have them on the state separated from there fathers and mothers.

These people are white-supremacists and make the modern Christians o
the United States look more like real Jews

USA is doing nothing Biden is puppet and the next puppet for all
care


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