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BTR1701
2022-09-09 16:31:36 UTC
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The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn'
they?
moviePig
2022-09-09 17:45:12 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
That's not hypocrisy, that's lability -- i.e., changing one's message on
a dime, to suit the day's headlines. Hypocrisy is, e.g., when anti-gay
Republican candidate Peter Schmidt is caught giving men blowjobs...
BTR1701
2022-09-09 18:20:21 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
That's not hypocrisy, that's lability -- i.e., changing one's message on
a dime, to suit the day's headlines. Hypocrisy is, e.g., when anti-gay
Republican candidate Peter Schmidt is caught giving men blowjobs...
Better that than getting caught receiving them (and more) from a Chinese
spy.

I wonder if Eric misses Fang Fang?
trotsky
2022-09-10 10:36:07 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
That's not hypocrisy, that's lability -- i.e., changing one's message on
a dime, to suit the day's headlines. Hypocrisy is, e.g., when anti-gay
Republican candidate Peter Schmidt is caught giving men blowjobs...
Better that than getting caught receiving them (and more) from a Chinese
spy.
I wonder if Eric misses Fang Fang?
Eric Trump? He can't even spell "Fang Fang."
trotsky
2022-09-10 10:46:20 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
That's not hypocrisy, that's lability -- i.e., changing one's message on
a dime, to suit the day's headlines.  Hypocrisy is, e.g., when anti-gay
Republican candidate Peter Schmidt is caught giving men blowjobs...
Also known as 'putting his mouth where his hypocrisy is.'
anim8rfsk
2022-09-09 17:54:30 UTC
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The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?

Has anyone ever actually tried that?
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shawn
2022-09-09 19:46:48 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
If the temps are relatively low that can work, but with the high temps
that have been reported it won't take even an hour before it will be
hot inside most homes. Now if you got something that has thick
concrete or adobe walls that can soak up the heat from the outside OR
soak up the chilled temps from the inside, then such a plan can work.

It's like I remember growing up and being on the farmers market. The
thick concrete slab we were on would hold on to the chilled temps from
the night air even into the middle of a warm day. So you need your
home to be a huge heat sink that you can chill down.
anim8rfsk
2022-09-10 05:21:48 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
If the temps are relatively low that can work, but with the high temps
that have been reported it won't take even an hour before it will be
hot inside most homes. Now if you got something that has thick
concrete or adobe walls that can soak up the heat from the outside OR
soak up the chilled temps from the inside, then such a plan can work.
It's like I remember growing up and being on the farmers market. The
thick concrete slab we were on would hold on to the chilled temps from
the night air even into the middle of a warm day. So you need your
home to be a huge heat sink that you can chill down.
Actually, it still won’t work, not with a heat pump system. A heat pump can
only cool or heat the air a maximum number of degrees from the incoming
air. 40° is tops. So if it’s 120° out there you’re not going to get Air any
cooler at the register than 80°. I suppose you could try chilling it down
at two in the morning or something and you maybe get it down to 70 but
you’re going to have to have an awfully efficient heat sink building for
that matter. We are talking missile silo underground bunker here.

Maybe you need a secondary heat pump system inside your garage and use your
garage as a giant sealed tank of 100° air that a second heat pump can cool
down to 70°…

No one‘s ever been able to explain to me why we put our heat pumps on the
roof directly in the blazing sunlight and don’t build some sort of
enclosure around them, either on the roof or the ground, where at least the
shadow would keep the metal of the heat pump itself from radiating at 120°.
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Dimensional Traveler
2022-09-09 20:05:05 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
Yes, in an apartment building built cheaply with no AC in the 1950s for
the then mild Mediterranean climate. Works about as well as you, living
in Hell, should expect.

This keeps up I may have to move next door to you to cool off.
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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
trotsky
2022-09-11 08:58:03 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
Yes, in an apartment building built cheaply with no AC in the 1950s for
the then mild Mediterranean climate.  Works about as well as you, living
in Hell, should expect.
This keeps up I may have to move next door to you to cool off.
Is that what the fancy boys are calling it now?
RichA
2022-09-10 04:45:36 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
If your home is one of those new R25 or more insulated, it might work for a while, pity the air you breath is basically unfit...
trotsky
2022-09-10 09:31:30 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
If your home is one of those new R25 or more insulated
Hey fuckface, here's how the English language works:

A) If your home is R25 or more insulated...
B) If your home is one of those R25 or more varieties...

Your brain is fucking fried. Have you been diagnosed with dementia yet?
Hard to believe you and other right wing asshole try and complain
about Biden and then post horseshit like this. But, as ever, you're too
stupid to know how stupid you look.
Ed Stasiak
2022-09-11 00:06:19 UTC
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anim8rfsk
BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
Whole house attic vent fan.

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Use it at night and in the morning when outside temps are lower and
it’ll very effectively cool down the house and just as importantly, it cools
down the attic and all that mass of lumber and shingles, which means
the A/C won’t kick on until much later.

Of course attic vent fans also use electricity, so I guess Kalifornians
are still screwed…

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anim8rfsk
2022-09-11 03:46:22 UTC
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anim8rfsk
BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
Whole house attic vent fan.
http://www.structuretech1.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Whole-House-Fan.jpg
Use it at night and in the morning when outside temps are lower and
itll very effectively cool down the house and just as importantly, it cools
down the attic and all that mass of lumber and shingles, which means
the A/C wont kick on until much later.
Of course attic vent fans also use electricity, so I guess Kalifornians
are still screwed&
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Lots of places around here have attic vent fans that work simply on the
principle of the air on one side being a lot hotter than the other. I have
no idea how well they work, I’ve never had one.
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Ed Stasiak
2022-09-11 15:41:36 UTC
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anim8rfsk
Ed Stasiak
Whole house attic vent fan.
Lots of places around here have attic vent fans that work simply on the
principle of the air on one side being a lot hotter than the other. I have
no idea how well they work, I’ve never had one.
It’s just a big fan (mine is 24” in diameter) that blows UP into the attic
and thus sucks in outside air. The process is to open/close different
windows around the house while the fan is running to draw cool air
throughout the house and out the attic.

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There are also smaller thermostat controlled vent fans that are
mounted in the attic which automatically turn on/off depending
on the temps but these draw in air from the outside soffit vents.

This also helps cool down the house by cooling down the attic but
doesn’t bring in outside air into the living space.

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Ubiquitous
2022-09-12 08:30:51 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it,
didn't they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
No, but I remeber reading somewhere that experts say that turning your AC off
in the morning and on when you get home is incredibly inefficient and hard on
the AC unit. You're better off leaving it on and changing the thermostat.

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buggered and the infidels are killed.
anim8rfsk
2022-09-12 17:58:13 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it,
didn't they?
Pre-cool your home and turn the AC off at 4 PM?
Has anyone ever actually tried that?
No, but I remeber reading somewhere that experts say that turning your AC off
in the morning and on when you get home is incredibly inefficient and hard on
the AC unit. You're better off leaving it on and changing the thermostat.
Worse is, it wouldn’t work. I think these rules are made up by idiots in
New Jersey or something that have never spent a summer in Arizona. Let’s
say you set the thermostat to 75°F. In the morning your house will probably
still be 75 but the outside air will already be pushing 90°F. By the time
you get home, say five or six in the afternoon, it will be 120°F outside
and you won’t even know how hot it is inside because your thermostat won’t
register that high. So you’ll turn it on and it will howl all night and if
you’re lucky get back down to 75°F in time to turn it off in the morning.
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Islam is a peaceful religion, just as long as the women are beaten, the boys
buggered and the infidels are killed.
--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
kensi
2022-09-10 04:15:23 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
BTR1701
2022-09-10 04:24:52 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
I guess we're going to have to go through this again, kook.

The link worked for everyone but you. If you can't see it because you're
to stupid to be using the right equipment or software, that's on you and
I couldn't care less.
kensi
2022-09-11 02:51:13 UTC
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Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
The link worked for everyone but you.
Proof, ko0k?
Post by BTR1701
If you can't see it because you're to stupid to be using the right
equipment or software,
Bog standard Firefox, with the only potentially-relevant modifications
(not scoped to particular websites, none of which are dropbox.com) being
a) to force the use of https (but the link is already https) and b) to
disable JS except for whitelisted sites (but .png files don't have
scripts).

Nothing, in other words, that should prevent the server from sending
the requested .png file in response to an http GET.

Yet, the server is clearly failing to do so. It's responding (or I'd
see a timeout error) but it's clearly not sending a .png file, unless
of course it's sending a blank one.

The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).

Given your past track record, guess which of these seems likelier?

*snicker*
--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
BTR1701
2022-09-11 03:17:32 UTC
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Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
The link worked for everyone but you.
Proof, ko0k?
Post by BTR1701
If you can't see it because you're to stupid to be using the right
equipment or software,
Bog standard Firefox, with the only potentially-relevant modifications
(not scoped to particular websites, none of which are dropbox.com) being
a) to force the use of https (but the link is already https) and b) to
disable JS except for whitelisted sites (but .png files don't have
scripts).
Nothing, in other words, that should prevent the server from sending
the requested .png file in response to an http GET.
Yet, the server is clearly failing to do so. It's responding (or I'd
see a timeout error) but it's clearly not sending a .png file, unless
of course it's sending a blank one.
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
kensi
2022-09-12 03:44:13 UTC
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Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame, and meanwhile it is self-evident that the server cannot be
responding to that GET request, irrespective of the requesting
user-agent, consistently with some particular non-blank .png image file.

Put another way, the only excuses for clicking that link not resulting
in a non-blank image being presented to me would be "the .png file
exists but it *is* blank" (in which case you are trolling), "404 file
not found" (not what I'm observing), or "I set my default browser to
Lynx, therefore no images for me" (I did not).

If the server is serving something other than a .png file (or 404 error)
it's responding incorrectly. If it's discriminating on the basis of the
requester's user-agent it's responding incorrectly (there are now ways
of negotiating content-types and asking browsers if they support things
like webp that don't depend on guessing based on the user-agent string,
and when requesting a .png from a file storage site that's not relevant
anyway as a file host should serve the exact file that was uploaded, not
a conversion of it).

Basically, there's no way you can pin this on me. Either you're wrong or
the server you hosted this thing at is doing something wrong. You, or
your deputy, screwed up. I'd say "now, man up and admit it" but that
would reinforce harmful gender stereotypes. We'll have to think up some
modernization of that idiom ... maybe something about joining the
vertebrate phylum and growing yourself at least a small notochord?
Though some day we'll probably meet intelligent octopodes from Delta
Pavonis III or summat and have to change it again ...
--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
BTR1701
2022-09-12 04:56:33 UTC
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Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame
All you have to do is read the thread, kooky, and see people responding
to my post in ways they could not have if they couldn't load the link.
trotsky
2022-09-12 10:06:34 UTC
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Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame
All you have to do is read the thread, kooky, and see people responding
to my post in ways they could not have if they couldn't load the link.
He doesn't have the attention span for that because there isn't enough
horseshit to keep him interested.
kensi
2022-09-13 03:09:19 UTC
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Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame
All you have to do is read the thread, kooky, and see people responding
to my post in ways they could not have if they couldn't load the link.
The "people" responding in those ways all appear to be drawn from among
your conservative fellow-travelers. For all we know they're all part of
an elaborate troll and keeping frame, or even are just your sockpuppets,
koOk.

Meanwhile, the unassailable truth is that the Dropbox server did not
respond to a GET for that URL with either a non-blank .png image file or
an error status. Explain that, if you can.
--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
BTR1701
2022-09-13 03:41:45 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame
All you have to do is read the thread, kooky, and see people responding
to my post in ways they could not have if they couldn't load the link.
The "people" responding in those ways all appear to be drawn from among
your conservative fellow-travelers.
LOL! MoviePig will be amused to know he's now a conservative fellow
traveler of mine.

You're a cartoon.
trotsky
2022-09-13 10:13:18 UTC
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Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame
All you have to do is read the thread, kooky, and see people responding
to my post in ways they could not have if they couldn't load the link.
The "people" responding in those ways all appear to be drawn from among
your conservative fellow-travelers.
LOL! MoviePig will be amused to know he's now a conservative fellow
traveler of mine.
You're a cartoon.
Pot calling the kettle black alert! People being decimated alert!
Pete
2022-09-12 06:35:44 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by kensi
The only conclusion can be that either the server is generating an
incorrect response to the initial GET request from the browser, or
else you fucked up the link you posted (or are purposely trolling
us by linking to a blank .png).
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame, and meanwhile it is self-evident that the server cannot be
responding to that GET request, irrespective of the requesting
user-agent, consistently with some particular non-blank .png image file.
Put another way, the only excuses for clicking that link not resulting
in a non-blank image being presented to me would be "the .png file
exists but it *is* blank" (in which case you are trolling), "404 file
not found" (not what I'm observing), or "I set my default browser to
Lynx, therefore no images for me" (I did not).
If the server is serving something other than a .png file (or 404 error)
it's responding incorrectly. If it's discriminating on the basis of the
requester's user-agent it's responding incorrectly (there are now ways
of negotiating content-types and asking browsers if they support things
like webp that don't depend on guessing based on the user-agent string,
and when requesting a .png from a file storage site that's not relevant
anyway as a file host should serve the exact file that was uploaded, not
a conversion of it).
Basically, there's no way you can pin this on me. Either you're wrong or
the server you hosted this thing at is doing something wrong. You, or
your deputy, screwed up. I'd say "now, man up and admit it" but that
would reinforce harmful gender stereotypes. We'll have to think up some
modernization of that idiom ... maybe something about joining the
vertebrate phylum and growing yourself at least a small notochord?
Though some day we'll probably meet intelligent octopodes from Delta
Pavonis III or summat and have to change it again ...
--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
Unlike a lot of people here, Kensi, I don't usually find too much
objectionable in your posts (:-)) but I have to call you out this
time. I clicked on the link as given, and it came straight up.

OTOH, I *have* hit a strange bug in Firefox (a slightly old version
in Linux) on one site (the BBC) in particular. I use NoScript to
suppress unwanted JavaScript, but usually I leave bbc.co.uk and
bbc.com as permitted. There is also bbci.co.uk which sometimes has
to be enabled too.

However, if all three are enabled I usually get no images at all!
Often if I just set all three to "Default", I immediately start to
see all the images! Usually disabling one of the three is enough to
restore images. Videos, though are another matter. Quite often (but
not always!) no combination of 'enables/disables' will give me anything
but a blank image. I have no problem with other videos such as YouTube.

Just possibly related to your experience?

-- Pete --
kensi
2022-09-13 03:12:05 UTC
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OTOH, I *have* hit a strange bug in Firefox (a slightly old version
in Linux) on one site (the BBC) in particular. I use NoScript to
suppress unwanted JavaScript, but usually I leave bbc.co.uk and
bbc.com as permitted. There is also bbci.co.uk which sometimes has
to be enabled too.
However, if all three are enabled I usually get no images at all!
Often if I just set all three to "Default", I immediately start to
see all the images! Usually disabling one of the three is enough to
restore images. Videos, though are another matter. Quite often (but
not always!) no combination of 'enables/disables' will give me anything
but a blank image. I have no problem with other videos such as YouTube.
Just possibly related to your experience?
That's all very peculiar, but I don't see how it can be relevant to the
instant case, which involved a direct link to a freestanding image, not
a page with embedded images. As I believe I mentioned before, png files
don't have scripts.
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"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
moviePig
2022-09-13 13:41:29 UTC
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Post by Pete
OTOH, I *have* hit a strange bug in Firefox (a slightly old version
in Linux) on one site (the BBC) in particular.  I use NoScript to
suppress unwanted JavaScript, but usually I leave bbc.co.uk and
bbc.com as permitted.  There is also bbci.co.uk which sometimes has
to be enabled too.
However, if all three are enabled I usually get no images at all!
Often if I just set all three to "Default", I immediately start to
see all the images!  Usually disabling one of the three is enough to
restore images.  Videos, though are another matter. Quite often (but
not always!) no combination of 'enables/disables' will give me anything
but a blank image.  I have no problem with other videos such as YouTube.
Just possibly related to your experience?
That's all very peculiar, but I don't see how it can be relevant to the
instant case, which involved a direct link to a freestanding image, not
a page with embedded images. As I believe I mentioned before, png files
don't have scripts.
Depending on your level of interest, you could yourself post a variety
of content to Dropbox and see which, if any, you can't retrieve.
kensi
2022-09-14 02:53:56 UTC
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Depending on your level of interest, you could yourself post a variety
of content to Dropbox and see which, if any, you can't retrieve.
Doubtful, actually, since I don't have an account there.
--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here." ~Checkmate
moviePig
2022-09-14 03:42:32 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Depending on your level of interest, you could yourself post a variety
of content to Dropbox and see which, if any, you can't retrieve.
Doubtful, actually, since I don't have an account there.
Neither do I, I just assumed they were free for the asking.
trotsky
2022-09-14 08:53:29 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Depending on your level of interest, you could yourself post a
variety of content to Dropbox and see which, if any, you can't retrieve.
Doubtful, actually, since I don't have an account there.
Neither do I, I just assumed they were free for the asking.
Who would bother? They have Instagram for posting photos.

Ubiquitous
2022-09-12 08:30:53 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
And yet everyone else who responded in this thread was able to see it,
kook.
And yet you still cannot produce any evidence to substantiate this
klame, and meanwhile it is self-evident that the server cannot be
responding to that GET request, irrespective of the requesting
user-agent, consistently with some particular non-blank .png image file.
Put another way, the only excuses for clicking that link not resulting
in a non-blank image being presented to me would be "the .png file
exists but it *is* blank" (in which case you are trolling), "404 file
not found" (not what I'm observing), or "I set my default browser to
Lynx, therefore no images for me" (I did not).
If the server is serving something other than a .png file (or 404 error)
it's responding incorrectly. If it's discriminating on the basis of the
requester's user-agent it's responding incorrectly (there are now ways
of negotiating content-types and asking browsers if they support things
like webp that don't depend on guessing based on the user-agent string,
and when requesting a .png from a file storage site that's not relevant
anyway as a file host should serve the exact file that was uploaded, not
a conversion of it).
Basically, there's no way you can pin this on me. Either you're wrong or
the server you hosted this thing at is doing something wrong. You, or
your deputy, screwed up. I'd say "now, man up and admit it" but that
would reinforce harmful gender stereotypes. We'll have to think up some
modernization of that idiom ... maybe something about joining the
vertebrate phylum and growing yourself at least a small notochord?
Though some day we'll probably meet intelligent octopodes from Delta
Pavonis III or summat and have to change it again ...
TROLL-O-METER

5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
trotsky
2022-09-11 09:00:36 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
I guess we're going to have to go through this again, kook.
The link worked for everyone but you. If you can't see it because you're
to stupid to be using the right equipment or software, that's on you and
I couldn't care less.
I think what he meant was it was so fucking stupid it might as well have
been a blank page. His was more concise.
trotsky
2022-09-10 10:13:36 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
People say the same about Eunuch Derp too.
Ubiquitous
2022-09-12 08:30:52 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
A blank page. So what?
Still using an obsolete browser, eh?

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Let's go Brandon!
RichA
2022-09-10 04:35:03 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Send him the clip. Head it, "You don't fool anyone."

https://swalwell.house.gov/zip-code-lookup?form=/contact/email
trotsky
2022-09-10 09:28:12 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
Send him the clip. Head it, "You don't fool anyone."
https://swalwell.house.gov/zip-code-lookup?form=/contact/email
"Two month apart?" Is that ebonics?
trotsky
2022-09-10 10:43:21 UTC
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/izy8vzcrpf9uqu0/Swalwell.png?dl=0
The hypocrisy is just... I mean, they at least used to try and hide it, didn't
they?
If you were a "lawyer" you'd have at least a modicum of logic and
reasoning, because then you'd realize the two power grids aren't
directly comparable. But nothing stops you from showing off what a
fucking moron you are, does it?
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