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OT: Kamala Harris picks Tim Walz as her VP candidate
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shawn
2024-08-06 14:52:26 UTC
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So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.

Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
suzeeq
2024-08-06 15:50:04 UTC
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Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
moviePig
2024-08-06 17:27:39 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
Kamala's not *that* young...
suzeeq
2024-08-06 19:41:32 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by suzeeq
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
Kamala's not *that* young...
I was thinking of certain members of congress.
moviePig
2024-08-06 20:31:00 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by moviePig
Post by suzeeq
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
Kamala's not *that* young...
I was thinking of certain members of congress.
Yeah. I try not to.
shawn
2024-08-06 20:35:42 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by moviePig
Post by suzeeq
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
Kamala's not *that* young...
I was thinking of certain members of congress.
Like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who also isn't that young but acts like
it at times.
suzeeq
2024-08-06 23:58:58 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by suzeeq
Post by moviePig
Post by suzeeq
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
Kamala's not *that* young...
I was thinking of certain members of congress.
Like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who also isn't that young but acts like
it at times.
Yep, she and Lauren act like a coupla teen girls.
trotsky
2024-08-07 07:47:23 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by suzeeq
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Yep he sounds like a good choice. And he's used to dealing with teenagers...
Kamala's not *that* young...
What part of "Vance vs Walz" confused the fuck out of you?
Ubiquitous
2024-08-06 17:00:36 UTC
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Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Plus, he's not a Jew.
#DemocratsHateJews

Kamswallah made a bad decision in not choosing a VP who would help her win a
state she cannot win without.

--
Let's go Brandon!
BTR1701
2024-08-06 18:40:58 UTC
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Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
The only ads we get are for the ballot propositions.

The DNC has California so locked up that no one bothers spending any TV
money here on candidates because they know California voters are like
abused wives. No matter how many times the Democrats give them a
beating, they dutifully return to the polls and reward them with
reelection.
Post by shawn
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
That's not why he was passed over. In an election year when states like
Michigan are crucial to Democrat success, she couldn't pick a Jewish VP.
They need those pro-Hamas votes. Kamala's husband being Jewish is
albatross enough. She couldn't be seen compounding the 'problem'.
Post by shawn
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
You mean he's done something other than recite the DNC's "weird" talking
point like a trained parrot?
shawn
2024-08-06 20:34:35 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
The only ads we get are for the ballot propositions.
The DNC has California so locked up that no one bothers spending any TV
money here on candidates because they know California voters are like
abused wives. No matter how many times the Democrats give them a
beating, they dutifully return to the polls and reward them with
reelection.
Must be nice.. Before the primaries back in the Spring I was getting 5
or more ads in the course of a couple of hours of TV. Plus the almost
daily phone call for one candidate or another or some poll that slyly
supported a single candidate.
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
That's not why he was passed over. In an election year when states like
Michigan are crucial to Democrat success, she couldn't pick a Jewish VP.
They need those pro-Hamas votes. Kamala's husband being Jewish is
albatross enough. She couldn't be seen compounding the 'problem'.
Post by shawn
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
You mean he's done something other than recite the DNC's "weird" talking
point like a trained parrot?
Yeah, he has but getting the "weird" attack going was enough. It sure
got under Trump's skin which is always a good thing.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-06 23:31:01 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
The only ads we get are for the ballot propositions.
The DNC has California so locked up that no one bothers spending any TV
money here on candidates because they know California voters are like
abused wives. No matter how many times the Democrats give them a
beating, they dutifully return to the polls and reward them with
reelection.
Post by shawn
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
That's not why he was passed over. In an election year when states like
Michigan are crucial to Democrat success, she couldn't pick a Jewish VP.
They need those pro-Hamas votes. Kamala's husband being Jewish is
albatross enough. She couldn't be seen compounding the 'problem'.
Kamala could have LED on doing the morally right thing. As I've said
before, since she refuses to take a moral position in favor of Israel,
had she taken a moral position in favor of rights of Palestinians over
the long run, I would have been far less offended than the wishy-washy
crap she says (about almost any topic) in a typical speech from her.

She could have shown political courage and political leadership and
found a way to win Michigan, even if the Arab ethnic voters stayed home.

And who are we kidding? They are going to stay home. They intend to
protest Biden for years of support for Israel and won't be voting for
her no matter what.

The idea of a Jew pissed off a hell of a lot of people in the party,
people whom Kamala should have defied.

The election is in 90 days. She needs to demonstrate that she's capable
of showing leadership on ANY issue like yesterday.
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Post by shawn
. . .
Rhino
2024-08-06 23:42:30 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next
few months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in
Georgia.)
The only ads we get are for the ballot propositions.
The DNC has California so locked up that no one bothers spending any
TV money here on candidates because they know California voters are
like abused wives. No matter how many times the Democrats give them
a beating, they dutifully return to the polls and reward them with
reelection.
Post by shawn
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about
him in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro
did have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal
with some of his staff.
That's not why he was passed over. In an election year when states
like Michigan are crucial to Democrat success, she couldn't pick a
Jewish VP. They need those pro-Hamas votes. Kamala's husband being
Jewish is albatross enough. She couldn't be seen compounding the
'problem'.
Kamala could have LED on doing the morally right thing. As I've said
before, since she refuses to take a moral position in favor of Israel,
had she taken a moral position in favor of rights of Palestinians over
the long run, I would have been far less offended than the wishy-washy
crap she says (about almost any topic) in a typical speech from her.
She could have shown political courage and political leadership and
found a way to win Michigan, even if the Arab ethnic voters stayed home.
And who are we kidding? They are going to stay home. They intend to
protest Biden for years of support for Israel and won't be voting for
her no matter what.
The idea of a Jew pissed off a hell of a lot of people in the party,
people whom Kamala should have defied.
The election is in 90 days. She needs to demonstrate that she's
capable of showing leadership on ANY issue like yesterday.
Be careful what you wish for! I know you're not going to be happy if
she shows leadership and announces plans to recognize Palestine or stop
helping Israel with arms.

Personally, I expect her to waffle relentlessly right up through
Election Day. Then, if she actually wins the election, the waffling
will end and she'll announce her full-throated support for all the
"progressive" causes she's always championed. You'll wake up one
morning to find that Israel has been thrown under the bus and that
Palestine is recognized as a nation. She'll also do whatever she can to
restore abortion on a national level, even if she has to lead the
effort to amend the Constitution to enshrine it. DEI will be elevated
even higher than it already is. Etc, etc.
--
Rhino
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-07 00:26:08 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .
Kamala could have LED on doing the morally right thing. As I've said
before, since she refuses to take a moral position in favor of Israel,
had she taken a moral position in favor of rights of Palestinians over
the long run, I would have been far less offended than the wishy-washy
crap she says (about almost any topic) in a typical speech from her.
She could have shown political courage and political leadership and
found a way to win Michigan, even if the Arab ethnic voters stayed home.
And who are we kidding? They are going to stay home. They intend to
protest Biden for years of support for Israel and won't be voting for
her no matter what.
The idea of a Jew pissed off a hell of a lot of people in the party,
people whom Kamala should have defied.
The election is in 90 days. She needs to demonstrate that she's
capable of showing leadership on ANY issue like yesterday.
Be careful what you wish for! I know you're not going to be happy if
she shows leadership and announces plans to recognize Palestine or stop
helping Israel with arms.
If Palestinians figure out normal politics in lieu of terrorism, then
they'll be mature enough for a state. There is a moral argument to make.
Post by Rhino
Personally, I expect her to waffle relentlessly right up through
Election Day. Then, if she actually wins the election, the waffling
will end and she'll announce her full-throated support for all the
"progressive" causes she's always championed. You'll wake up one
morning to find that Israel has been thrown under the bus and that
Palestine is recognized as a nation. She'll also do whatever she can to
restore abortion on a national level, even if she has to lead the
effort to amend the Constitution to enshrine it. DEI will be elevated
even higher than it already is. Etc, etc.
I'm not going to disagree.
trotsky
2024-08-07 07:53:43 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
The only ads we get are for the ballot propositions.
The DNC
Now that we know who are on both tickets how badly do you think Trump
will lose the Electoral College? I think Kamala/Walz will have approx.
350 electoral votes.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-07 08:30:42 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
They need those pro-Hamas votes. Kamala's husband being Jewish is
albatross enough. She couldn't be seen compounding the 'problem'.
You forgot to put quotes around the word "Jewish".

--
Let's go Brandon!
Ubiquitous
2024-08-06 18:46:13 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?

The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.

Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.

Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.

Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.

Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.

Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.

Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.

Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).

Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.

Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.

(Etc)

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Let's go Brandon!
Rhino
2024-08-06 19:56:31 UTC
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 14:46:13 -0400
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of
children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before
his battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate his views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who
survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
(Etc)
I hereby predict that the MSM will go out of their way to memory-hole
all of that, then accuse the Republicans of disinformation when they
inevitably bring it up. I'm sure they'll notice some shiny squirrels
too rather than addressing these issues. Here's hoping enough voters
will not be fooled by those old tricks.
--
Rhino
super70s
2024-08-06 20:12:15 UTC
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Post by Rhino
On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 14:46:13 -0400
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of
children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before
his battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate his views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who
survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
(Etc)
My the Republican oppo research was ready for anyone wasn't it.

Most of it looks like opinionated horseshit if not outright lies to me.
trotsky
2024-08-07 07:56:52 UTC
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Post by super70s
Post by Rhino
On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 14:46:13 -0400
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of
children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before
his battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate his views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who
survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
(Etc)
My the Republican oppo research was ready for anyone wasn't it.
Most of it looks like opinionated horseshit if not outright lies to me.
It doesn't matter, it won't make the resident couch fucking weirdo look
any better, which is really what Oath Keeper Twat is complaining about.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-07 08:30:41 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before
his battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate his views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who
survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
(Etc)
I hereby predict that the MSM will go out of their way to memory-hole
all of that, then accuse the Republicans of disinformation when they
inevitably bring it up. I'm sure they'll notice some shiny squirrels
too rather than addressing these issues. Here's hoping enough voters
will not be fooled by those old tricks.
That's not much of a prediction, ha ha

--
Let's go Brandon!
BTR1701
2024-08-07 17:02:14 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate hi
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons t
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
NoBody
2024-08-07 20:36:17 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
When Minnesota GovernorÂ’s Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted Taxpayers
To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home
moviePig
2024-08-07 21:30:01 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
When Minnesota Governor’s Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted Taxpayers
To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
BTR1701
2024-08-08 01:36:06 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
When Minnesota Governor’s Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted Taxpayers
To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
moviePig
2024-08-08 03:19:39 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
When Minnesota Governor’s Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted Taxpayers
To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
BTR1701
2024-08-08 03:22:56 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate
his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons
to teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
moviePig
2024-08-08 15:06:35 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate
his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons
to teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
BTR1701
2024-08-08 16:09:05 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.

But regardless, Walz was perfectly happy to live in his personal
residence so obviously it was a viable workaround during the remodeling,
he just wanted the taxpayers to give him $17,000 monthly for doing it.
Would the $17,000 somehow expand his house's capacity or something? Was
he suggesting that the taxpayers not only pay to remodel the official
residence but to remodel and expand his own residence as well?

If the Minnesota governor's office isn't already in the state capitol or
somewhere similar, Walz could easily live in his house while the
official residence was being remodeled and commute to a temporary
government office set up for him in a state government building. You
know, like everyone else does. Better that than the taxpayers shell out
$17,000/month to him for no discernible reason or public benefit.
moviePig
2024-08-08 16:36:25 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
But regardless, Walz was perfectly happy to live in his personal
residence so obviously it was a viable workaround during the remodeling,
he just wanted the taxpayers to give him $17,000 monthly for doing it.
Would the $17,000 somehow expand his house's capacity or something? Was
he suggesting that the taxpayers not only pay to remodel the official
residence but to remodel and expand his own residence as well?
If the Minnesota governor's office isn't already in the state capitol or
somewhere similar, Walz could easily live in his house while the
official residence was being remodeled and commute to a temporary
government office set up for him in a state government building. You
know, like everyone else does. Better that than the taxpayers shell out
$17,000/month to him for no discernible reason or public benefit.
These seem to be the facts: Walz was living and conducting business in
the Governor's mansion, which needed remodeling. He planned to move
those activities to a $17k/mo. location, but ultimately settled on a
$4k/mo. one. Afaics, a scandal only for the desperate...
BTR1701
2024-08-08 16:45:21 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
But regardless, Walz was perfectly happy to live in his personal
residence so obviously it was a viable workaround during the remodeling,
he just wanted the taxpayers to give him $17,000 monthly for doing it.
Would the $17,000 somehow expand his house's capacity or something? Was
he suggesting that the taxpayers not only pay to remodel the official
residence but to remodel and expand his own residence as well?
If the Minnesota governor's office isn't already in the state capitol or
somewhere similar, Walz could easily live in his house while the
official residence was being remodeled and commute to a temporary
government office set up for him in a state government building. You
know, like everyone else does. Better that than the taxpayers shell out
$17,000/month to him for no discernible reason or public benefit.
These seem to be the facts: Walz was living and conducting business in
the Governor's mansion, which needed remodeling.
Nope. According to the State of Minnesota's official website, the
governor's office is in the state capitol, so he was not conducting
business in the mansion. Which means he could easily use his own
residence during the remodeling-- something he himself said he was fine
with doing-- and there's no need for taxpayers to pay him $17,000/month.
He planned to move those activities to a $17k/mo. location, but
ultimately settled on a $4k/mo. one. Afaics, a scandal only for the
desperate...
He didn't even need to bilk the taxpayers for $4000/month. It should
cost taxpayers literally nothing for him to live in his own home. Or did
he suddenly abandon the idea of using his own home the moment he learned
he wasn't going to get a monthly stipend of other people's money?
moviePig
2024-08-08 18:53:20 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
But regardless, Walz was perfectly happy to live in his personal
residence so obviously it was a viable workaround during the remodeling,
he just wanted the taxpayers to give him $17,000 monthly for doing it.
Would the $17,000 somehow expand his house's capacity or something? Was
he suggesting that the taxpayers not only pay to remodel the official
residence but to remodel and expand his own residence as well?
If the Minnesota governor's office isn't already in the state capitol or
somewhere similar, Walz could easily live in his house while the
official residence was being remodeled and commute to a temporary
government office set up for him in a state government building. You
know, like everyone else does. Better that than the taxpayers shell out
$17,000/month to him for no discernible reason or public benefit.
These seem to be the facts: Walz was living and conducting business in
the Governor's mansion, which needed remodeling.
Nope. According to the State of Minnesota's official website, the
governor's office is in the state capitol, so he was not conducting
business in the mansion. Which means he could easily use his own
residence during the remodeling-- something he himself said he was fine
with doing-- and there's no need for taxpayers to pay him $17,000/month.
He planned to move those activities to a $17k/mo. location, but
ultimately settled on a $4k/mo. one. Afaics, a scandal only for the
desperate...
He didn't even need to bilk the taxpayers for $4000/month. It should
cost taxpayers literally nothing for him to live in his own home. Or did
he suddenly abandon the idea of using his own home the moment he learned
he wasn't going to get a monthly stipend of other people's money?
Okay, if he said he was "fine" returning to his own house, how did that
not happen? And if it *had* happened, *was* he, in fact, to be
personally compensated? In any event, I'd be very surprised to learn
that a Governor's residence bears no duties of state beyond office work.
BTR1701
2024-08-08 19:05:41 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
But regardless, Walz was perfectly happy to live in his personal
residence so obviously it was a viable workaround during the remodeling,
he just wanted the taxpayers to give him $17,000 monthly for doing it.
Would the $17,000 somehow expand his house's capacity or something? Was
he suggesting that the taxpayers not only pay to remodel the official
residence but to remodel and expand his own residence as well?
If the Minnesota governor's office isn't already in the state capitol or
somewhere similar, Walz could easily live in his house while the
official residence was being remodeled and commute to a temporary
government office set up for him in a state government building. You
know, like everyone else does. Better that than the taxpayers shell out
$17,000/month to him for no discernible reason or public benefit.
These seem to be the facts: Walz was living and conducting business in
the Governor's mansion, which needed remodeling.
Nope. According to the State of Minnesota's official website, the
governor's office is in the state capitol, so he was not conducting
business in the mansion. Which means he could easily use his own
residence during the remodeling-- something he himself said he was fine
with doing-- and there's no need for taxpayers to pay him $17,000/month.
He planned to move those activities to a $17k/mo. location, but
ultimately settled on a $4k/mo. one. Afaics, a scandal only for the
desperate...
He didn't even need to bilk the taxpayers for $4000/month. It should
cost taxpayers literally nothing for him to live in his own home. Or did
he suddenly abandon the idea of using his own home the moment he learned
he wasn't going to get a monthly stipend of other people's money?
Okay, if he said he was "fine" returning to his own house, how did that
not happen?
Perhaps, as I said, he suddenly lost interest in it when his gambit to
leech off $17,000/month in tax money became impossible to spin.
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And if it *had* happened, *was* he, in fact, to be personally compensated?
Who else would the money to live in his own home go to?
Post by moviePig
In any event, I'd be very surprised to learn
that a Governor's residence bears no duties of state beyond office work.
Certainly nothing that costs the taxpayers $17,000/month.
moviePig
2024-08-08 22:01:32 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
But regardless, Walz was perfectly happy to live in his personal
residence so obviously it was a viable workaround during the remodeling,
he just wanted the taxpayers to give him $17,000 monthly for doing it.
Would the $17,000 somehow expand his house's capacity or something? Was
he suggesting that the taxpayers not only pay to remodel the official
residence but to remodel and expand his own residence as well?
If the Minnesota governor's office isn't already in the state capitol or
somewhere similar, Walz could easily live in his house while the
official residence was being remodeled and commute to a temporary
government office set up for him in a state government building. You
know, like everyone else does. Better that than the taxpayers shell out
$17,000/month to him for no discernible reason or public benefit.
These seem to be the facts: Walz was living and conducting business in
the Governor's mansion, which needed remodeling.
Nope. According to the State of Minnesota's official website, the
governor's office is in the state capitol, so he was not conducting
business in the mansion. Which means he could easily use his own
residence during the remodeling-- something he himself said he was fine
with doing-- and there's no need for taxpayers to pay him $17,000/month.
He planned to move those activities to a $17k/mo. location, but
ultimately settled on a $4k/mo. one. Afaics, a scandal only for the
desperate...
He didn't even need to bilk the taxpayers for $4000/month. It should
cost taxpayers literally nothing for him to live in his own home. Or did
he suddenly abandon the idea of using his own home the moment he learned
he wasn't going to get a monthly stipend of other people's money?
Okay, if he said he was "fine" returning to his own house, how did that
not happen?
Perhaps, as I said, he suddenly lost interest in it when his gambit to
leech off $17,000/month in tax money became impossible to spin.
'Perhaps' doesn't cut it. Hell, it doesn't even bend it...
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Post by moviePig
And if it *had* happened, *was* he, in fact, to be personally compensated?
Who else would the money to live in his own home go to?
If he incurred expenses in conducting the state's business from his
home, I assume any state would pick those up. But you seem to think he
was to receive an additional fixed fee of some sort. As an
"inconvenience" charge? Where is your micro-shred of proof of that?
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Post by moviePig
In any event, I'd be very surprised to learn
that a Governor's residence bears no duties of state beyond office work.
Certainly nothing that costs the taxpayers $17,000/month.
As I understand it, that was the lease on the lakefront property, which
would've gone to the owners. How is that amount relevant?
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:38:57 UTC
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He didn't even need to bilk the taxpayers for $4000/month. It should
cost taxpayers literally nothing for him to live in his own home. Or did
he suddenly abandon the idea of using his own home the moment he learned
he wasn't going to get a monthly stipend of other people's money?
More like "the moment he learned state Republicans and the press were
going to make hay over it"!
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-08 19:07:38 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
This is undoubtably true in every state capital. When I worked in St.
Louis and Jefferson City Missouri for a year, both the governor and
lt. governor had formal ceremonial offices in the Capitol. Both had working
offices elsewhere. The lt. governor had a working office below the main
level, on the parking garage level. He would never receive visitors there
on matters of state but it was good enough for staff. It truly demonstrates
where the lt. governor stood in state government. Worse still, when the
Missouri River had major flooding the following year (Jefferson City is
in the Missouri River valley), this level of the Capitol was damaged.
Flood waters didn't rise high enough to damage offices on the the main level
or the legislative chambers.

Now that I think about it, I never looked at the governor's mansion,
which would have been just a house, never had a reason to go there. The
lt. governor didn't get a parsonage. I don't know of any state in which
he does.

The White House is the exception, that it's the residence and the
ceremonial office of state of the president, and a portion of his senior
executive staff works there. Versailles it ain't.

It's also an exception that the vice president has a residence.
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. . .
trotsky
2024-08-09 09:35:57 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
Fuck, I hate to say you're right, but you're right. That was really
pretty silly of pig to say that.
moviePig
2024-08-09 15:44:03 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Equal capacity for what? Did he and his wife suddenly become embiggened
when he was elected? Did they suddenly have a whole herd of children in
their old age or something?
I presume that, like the White House, a Governor's mansion houses more
activity than a place to sleep and dinner with the family.
The Texas governor's mansion is just a house. The governor's office and
staff are in the state capitol building a few blocks away. I volunteered
in the Massachusetts governor's office when I was a kid and it, too, was
in the state capitol, not in the governor's residence. Just two examples.
Fuck, I hate to say you're right, but you're right. That was really
pretty silly of pig to say that.
I just found it hard to believe that a state government makes no
extraordinary demands of its Governor's residence. I still do.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:23:13 UTC
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When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted
Taxpayers To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
Sure, if his home had an equal capacity, etc.. (See 'chance, fat'.)
Even if his home required modification for security reasons (cameras,
place for security personnel to work etc) that should have been a one
time expense - not a fixed fee every month.

The prime minister of Canada has NEVER lived in his official residence
(it's under renovation - though Rhino and I have argued the 130 year
old house should be demolished and something nice built on the grounds
with all the 21st century security features built in for 1/4 the cost
of the reno. Meanwhile Justin Trudeau has been living in the
caretaker's bungalow close by still within the security perimeter.
Note that unlike the White House and #10 Downing Street, his home is
strictly a home and does not contain his main office)
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-08 19:39:19 UTC
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. . .
When Minnesota Governor's Mansion Was Remodeled, Tim Walz Wanted Taxpayers
To Pay $17K A Month For Him To Live In Lakeside Home.
Where *should* he have moved the Governor's residence, and at what cost?
If he was living in his own home, it should have been at *no* cost to
the taxpayers.
That wouldn't have been possible given that he must live in St. Paul
much of the time during the legislative sessions.

Here's a news article from a television station about the temporary
governor's residence on Sunfish Lake during the summer 2023 renovation
of the governor's mansion for $6.3 million, an English Tudor-style
mansion from the early 1900s.

The six-month lease was $315,000.

Walz family moving to Sunfish Lake property during renovation on
governor's mansion
A $6.3 million renovation on the Governor's Residence, located in St.
Paul's historic Summit Avenue neighborhood, is slated to begin this
summer.
by Alexandra Simon
KARE-TV NBC affiliate Channel 11
Updated: 6:36 PM CDT March 28, 2023
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/governor-walz-family-moving-to-sunfish-lake-property-mansion-renovation/89-c8a974bb-34ef-42e0-881a-c1062419eaca

Ah. This article says the Sunfish Lake property -- owned by a Republican
who had run for US Senate -- would have been leased for a year, plus the
state agreed to install new carpeting for $15,000. Sunfish Lake is in
Dakota County, west of South St. Paul.

https://www.startribune.com/walz-family-to-move-as-the-governors-residence-gets-6-3m-makeover/600262371

Instead, they moved into Eastcliff Mansion, University of Minnesota
campus in Minneapolis. Also, the lease is until September 2024, given
how long the renovation is expected to take. The lease is $4,400 a
month. The state will pay for utilities and exterior maintenance.

https://mndaily.com/276837/news/umn-regents-elect-co-vice-chairs-discuss-presidential-transition/

https://mndaily.com/278042/news/walz-family-move-into-eastcliff/

I find no information on why the university owns the mansion. It's
typical that a university president lives on campus in a mansion, given
how much entertaining he is required to do for fundraising purposes.
moviePig
2024-08-07 21:31:17 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
Do they? I guess Kamala won't be winning Minnesota, then...
BTR1701
2024-08-08 01:35:22 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
Do they? I guess Kamala won't be winning Minnesota, then...
Well, she's hoping to counter that by passing over Shapiro in favor of
Walz. Distracts from that annoying Jewish taint, so important to win
over the votes of Minnesota's large Somali population.
trotsky
2024-08-08 08:03:20 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by Ubiquitous
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
Do they? I guess Kamala won't be winning Minnesota, then...
Well, she's hoping to counter that by passing over Shapiro in favor of
Walz. Distracts from that annoying Jewish taint, so important to win
over the votes of Minnesota's large Somali population.
Show us you're a political moron without saying you're a political moron:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/election-2016-vice-president-selection-matters-less-than-you-think-213805/


Why VPs Matter Less Than You Think

Presidential nominees love to consider home state advantage when
choosing their running mates. But a vice president's state turns out to
make no difference in an election.


Zero self awareness noted.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:17:19 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
Do they? I guess Kamala won't be winning Minnesota, then...
Very strange - what was the rationale for that?

My only past knowledge of tampons for men was in high school where our
basketball team was actually 2 teams - the senior teams and the
'junior varsity' (who usually played their games as the warm up for
the big game) and since the JV players were showering while the top
team was playing and since visiting teams normally changed in the
girls' dressing room, we had a couple of cases of guy buying tampons
from the vending machine and slipping them into the star's (who later
played pro football at 6'8" 275 lbs) equipment bag and waiting for the
fun when he changed after the game.
shawn
2024-08-07 23:24:39 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
You mean making tampons available for teenage girls in school that
couldn't afford to buy their own? Wow.. That's a great attack so keep
it up.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-08 00:12:50 UTC
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Post by shawn
. . .
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
You mean making tampons available for teenage girls in school that
couldn't afford to buy their own? Wow.. That's a great attack so keep
it up.
No, that's not what he means.

https://patch.com/minnesota/saintpaul/what-know-gov-tim-walzs-controversial-tampon-bill

What To Know About Gov. Tim Walz's Controversial Tampon Bill
Tampons, pads, and other menstrual products must be stocked free
of charge in Minnesota's public schools.
William Bornhoft,
Patch Staff
Updated Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 12:34 pm CT

ST. PAUL, MN - Democrat Tim Walz's selection as Vice President
Kamala Harris' running mate has brought national attention and
criticism to the bills he's signed into law as Minnesota's
governor.

Some of the most progressive laws in Minnesota's history were
passed in the last two years, during the period when Democrats
held a trifecta in the state government.

Among those laws is one that requires public schools in
Minnesota to stock menstrual products in all girls and boys
bathrooms at no charge to students. The bill went into effect
Jan. 1.
BTR1701
2024-08-08 01:33:22 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
You mean making tampons available for teenage girls in school that
couldn't afford to buy their own?
No, tampons-for-girls was already a thing. He crusaded for giving them
to boys, making sure every boys' restroom had a tampon dispenser.
shawn
2024-08-08 03:19:27 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
You mean making tampons available for teenage girls in school that
couldn't afford to buy their own?
No, tampons-for-girls was already a thing. He crusaded for giving them
to boys, making sure every boys' restroom had a tampon dispenser.
So what was the reason given for doing that?
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-08 03:25:55 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
. . .
No, tampons-for-girls was already a thing. He crusaded for giving them
to boys, making sure every boys' restroom had a tampon dispenser.
So what was the reason given for doing that?
I cited a story for you in the other followup but you didn't read it.

Rep. Sandra Feist, a Democrat from New Brighton who pioneered
the measure, said in January that the associated cost of the
measure would be a "wise investment" because it would keep
students from missing school due to "period poverty."

"One out of every 10 menstruating youth miss school during their
menstruating cycle due to lack of access to menstrual products
and resources," Feist said in a House Education Finance
Committee hearing.

A Republican-backed amendment to add the word "female" to the
bill failed in committee. "Not all students who menstruate are
female," Feist said, persuading committee members to vote "no"
on the amendment.

Feist said some schools have gender-neutral bathrooms. She
acknowledged that female students use menstruation products more
often, but said it is still important to have them in all
bathrooms.
shawn
2024-08-08 04:30:18 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
. . .
No, tampons-for-girls was already a thing. He crusaded for giving them
to boys, making sure every boys' restroom had a tampon dispenser.
So what was the reason given for doing that?
I cited a story for you in the other followup but you didn't read it.
Rep. Sandra Feist, a Democrat from New Brighton who pioneered
the measure, said in January that the associated cost of the
measure would be a "wise investment" because it would keep
students from missing school due to "period poverty."
"One out of every 10 menstruating youth miss school during their
menstruating cycle due to lack of access to menstrual products
and resources," Feist said in a House Education Finance
Committee hearing.
A Republican-backed amendment to add the word "female" to the
bill failed in committee. "Not all students who menstruate are
female," Feist said, persuading committee members to vote "no"
on the amendment.
Feist said some schools have gender-neutral bathrooms. She
acknowledged that female students use menstruation products more
often, but said it is still important to have them in all
bathrooms.
I now understand the real reason for doing it thanks to THE DAILY
SHOW. Apparently young boys will put almost anything up their noses so
the tampons will serve as material for their walrus improve acts.
BTR1701
2024-08-08 03:29:39 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he
moderate
his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
You mean making tampons available for teenage girls in school that
couldn't afford to buy their own?
No, tampons-for-girls was already a thing. He crusaded for giving them
to boys, making sure every boys' restroom had a tampon dispenser.
So what was the reason given for doing that?
You'll have to ask the progs. I have no idea why as a governor I'd
choose to champion giving teenage boys tampons. I'm sure it has
something to do with the Left's fixation on gender and pretending dudes
wearing skirts actually makes them girls or something.

Walz is on record as supporting California's policy of removing a minor
child from the custody of a parent if they oppose "gender affirming
care"-- which is code for genital mutilation surgery and irreversible
hormone injections-- if their child claims to want it.

The state will refuse you a tattoo until you're 18 because you're deemed
to not have the maturity to make life-altering modifications to your
body but if you want to cut off your penis and dig out a cavity between
your legs that your body will forever treat as an unhealed wound, then
you can make that decision at the age of 10 or 12 with no problem and if
one of both of your parents says, "Hey, wait a minute, I don't think
so," the state steps in and takes you away from them.

And this is what Walz thinks is a good idea.
moviePig
2024-08-08 03:31:24 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
You mean making tampons available for teenage girls in school that
couldn't afford to buy their own?
No, tampons-for-girls was already a thing. He crusaded for giving them
to boys, making sure every boys' restroom had a tampon dispenser.
"Trump Campaign Criticizes Walz for State Law Providing Tampons in
Schools. The law, which was passed in Minnesota last year, includes
language requiring menstrual products to be available in bathrooms of
all schools for grades 4 to 12 as a way to accommodate transgender
students." -NYTimes

But you're right, of course. There must have been millions of tampons
stolen by boys to sell to girls who never noticed the free ones...
trotsky
2024-08-08 07:44:00 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Tampon Tim? Realy?
The Jihad Squad wholeheartedly endorsed him.
Walz signed an exec order protecting the genital mutilation of children.
Walz voted for Obama's deal with Iran.
Walz made MN a sanctuary state and gave driver licenses to illegal aliens.
Walz created a state DEI council that declared America as a racist country.
Walz supported the Black Lies Matter rioters, then refused to take
responsibility for letting the city burn.
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
Walz is so pro-abortion that Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi suggested he moderate his
views (he accidentally voted to protect babies who survived being aborted).
Walz implemented a Wuhan Flu snitch line.
Walz changed MN's "problematic" state flag to resemble Somalia's.
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
That reminds me of when all those MAGAs were wearing maxipads on their
ears in honor of Trump and his fake "assassination" attempt.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-08 17:43:53 UTC
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Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
I dunno - when we were in high school we used tampons for cleaning
windshields. That and slipping them into equipment bags belonging to
varsity basketball players to get a reaction out of them.

Up there with the guy who unscrewed the shower head during a
basketball game and inserted powdered blue paint into the head
ensuring the first guy to shower after the game got more than a
shower.....
moviePig
2024-08-08 18:56:25 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
I dunno - when we were in high school we used tampons for cleaning
windshields. That and slipping them into equipment bags belonging to
varsity basketball players to get a reaction out of them.
Up there with the guy who unscrewed the shower head during a
basketball game and inserted powdered blue paint into the head
ensuring the first guy to shower after the game got more than a
shower.....
Wait, who stands under a shower while they turn it on?
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:40:41 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by The Horny Goat
I dunno - when we were in high school we used tampons for cleaning
windshields. That and slipping them into equipment bags belonging to
varsity basketball players to get a reaction out of them.
Up there with the guy who unscrewed the shower head during a
basketball game and inserted powdered blue paint into the head
ensuring the first guy to shower after the game got more than a
shower.....
Wait, who stands under a shower while they turn it on?
I dunno but I saw the screaming guy coming out of the shower area
calling the name of his best friend who he assumed (correctly) was the
perpetrator...

suzeeq
2024-08-08 20:15:04 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Don't forget Walz was real big on handing out taxpayer-funded tampons to
teenage boys. They actually call him "Tampon Tim" in Minnesota.
I dunno - when we were in high school we used tampons for cleaning
windshields. That and slipping them into equipment bags belonging to
varsity basketball players to get a reaction out of them.
Up there with the guy who unscrewed the shower head during a
basketball game and inserted powdered blue paint into the head
ensuring the first guy to shower after the game got more than a
shower.....
Someone said they're excellent for nose bleeds. That's probably the #1
use among high school boys. The Coach knew this and having them
available in the boys bathroom/locker room prevents them from having to
go into the girls room.
BTR1701
2024-08-07 17:06:10 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one o
them.

Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever you want
You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years at a time. Walz'
fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served his country honorably for 2
years and retired at the rank of command sergeant major and deserves to b
respected for it. What more do you want?
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-07 18:24:51 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever you want.
You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years at a time. Walz's
fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served his country honorably for 24
years and retired at the rank of command sergeant major and deserves to be
respected for it. What more do you want?
Excellent point. That rank must be just sort of Sergeant Major of the
State National Guard. One doesn't get that promotion with a history of
shirking duty.
shawn
2024-08-07 19:31:35 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 18:24:51 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever you want.
You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years at a time. Walz's
fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served his country honorably for 24
years and retired at the rank of command sergeant major and deserves to be
respected for it. What more do you want?
Excellent point. That rank must be just sort of Sergeant Major of the
State National Guard. One doesn't get that promotion with a history of
shirking duty.
To be fair he didn't fully get that rank, mostly because there were
some education requirements he didn't meet at the time of his
retirement. So it's an odd thing where he got the promotion to CSM and
then was reduced in rank when he retired without meeting the
requirements. So he gets to say he retired at CSM but will have people
complain that he wasn't justified to say he had that rank. Hence
people complaining about stolen valor over on Twitter.

If he had chosen to stay in for another term one can assume he would
have finished meeting the requirements for the CSM rank.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-07 19:45:03 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever
you want. You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years
at a time. Walz's fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served
his country honorably for 24 years and retired at the rank of command
sergeant major and deserves to be respected for it. What more do
you want?
Excellent point. That rank must be just sort of Sergeant Major of the
State National Guard. One doesn't get that promotion with a history of
shirking duty.
To be fair he didn't fully get that rank, mostly because there were
some education requirements he didn't meet at the time of his
retirement.
I haven't read about this. Why wasn't he eligible? Did he need a
master's degree? A period of time at army war college?
Post by shawn
. . .
shawn
2024-08-07 19:55:29 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 19:45:03 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever
you want. You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years
at a time. Walz's fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served
his country honorably for 24 years and retired at the rank of command
sergeant major and deserves to be respected for it. What more do
you want?
Excellent point. That rank must be just sort of Sergeant Major of the
State National Guard. One doesn't get that promotion with a history of
shirking duty.
To be fair he didn't fully get that rank, mostly because there were
some education requirements he didn't meet at the time of his
retirement.
I haven't read about this. Why wasn't he eligible? Did he need a
master's degree? A period of time at army war college?
Post by shawn
. . .
I don't know the specifics but I guess it was something related to the
military. Could have been something from the National Guard or from
the Army. Either way it was apparently something he had started but
needed to finish before his retirement to keep the CSM rank, but would
have required him to sign up for another term to finish the education
requirements.

Ah it looks like he was supposed to finish additional coursework at
the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy to retain the CSM rank. Since he
didn't do that coursework he was demoted back to SM.

Can't say that I blame him for retiring after 24 years instead of
signing for another term of 2? 4? 6? years.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-07 20:20:51 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by shawn
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever
you want. You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years
at a time. Walz's fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served
his country honorably for 24 years and retired at the rank of command
sergeant major and deserves to be respected for it. What more do
you want?
Excellent point. That rank must be just sort of Sergeant Major of the
State National Guard. One doesn't get that promotion with a history of
shirking duty.
To be fair he didn't fully get that rank, mostly because there were
some education requirements he didn't meet at the time of his
retirement.
I haven't read about this. Why wasn't he eligible? Did he need a
master's degree? A period of time at army war college?
Post by shawn
. . .
I don't know the specifics but I guess it was something related to the
military. Could have been something from the National Guard or from
the Army. Either way it was apparently something he had started but
needed to finish before his retirement to keep the CSM rank, but would
have required him to sign up for another term to finish the education
requirements.
Ah it looks like he was supposed to finish additional coursework at
the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy to retain the CSM rank. Since he
didn't do that coursework he was demoted back to SM.
I didn't know that conditional promotion was a thing in the Army. I
thought you had to meet all prerequisites first, then the promotion
board would consider the promotion.
Post by shawn
Can't say that I blame him for retiring after 24 years instead of
signing for another term of 2? 4? 6? years.
BTR1701
2024-08-08 01:32:00 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever
you want. You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years
at a time. Walz's fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served
his country honorably for 24 years and retired at the rank of command
sergeant major and deserves to be respected for it. What more do
you want?
Excellent point. That rank must be just sort of Sergeant Major of the
State National Guard. One doesn't get that promotion with a history of
shirking duty.
To be fair he didn't fully get that rank, mostly because there were
some education requirements he didn't meet at the time of his
retirement.
I haven't read about this. Why wasn't he eligible? Did he need a
master's degree? A period of time at army war college?
Post by shawn
. . .
I don't know the specifics but I guess it was something related to the
military. Could have been something from the National Guard or from
the Army. Either way it was apparently something he had started but
needed to finish before his retirement to keep the CSM rank, but would
have required him to sign up for another term to finish the education
requirements.
Ah it looks like he was supposed to finish additional coursework at
the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy to retain the CSM rank. Since he
didn't do that coursework he was demoted back to SM.
I didn't know that conditional promotion was a thing in the Army. I
thought you had to meet all prerequisites first, then the promotion
board would consider the promotion.
My dad was promoted from colonel to brigadier general but he didn't
serve long enough as a general so when he retired, his rank was colonel.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-08 01:55:20 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .
I didn't know that conditional promotion was a thing in the Army. I
thought you had to meet all prerequisites first, then the promotion
board would consider the promotion.
My dad was promoted from colonel to brigadier general but he didn't
serve long enough as a general so when he retired, his rank was colonel.
If he'd been offered UNIT, would he have re-upped?
BTR1701
2024-08-08 01:59:25 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .
I didn't know that conditional promotion was a thing in the Army. I
thought you had to meet all prerequisites first, then the promotion
board would consider the promotion.
My dad was promoted from colonel to brigadier general but he didn't
serve long enough as a general so when he retired, his rank was colonel.
If he'd been offered UNIT, would he have re-upped?
Only if it came with a ride in the TARDIS.
trotsky
2024-08-08 08:05:17 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .
I didn't know that conditional promotion was a thing in the Army. I
thought you had to meet all prerequisites first, then the promotion
board would consider the promotion.
My dad was promoted from colonel to brigadier general but he didn't
serve long enough as a general so when he retired, his rank was colonel.
If he'd been offered UNIT, would he have re-upped?
Only if it came with a ride in the TARDIS.
You've done it! This shit is so fucking lame I don't even have a clever
quip for it!!
BTR1701
2024-08-08 11:28:19 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .
I didn't know that conditional promotion was a thing in the Army. I
thought you had to meet all prerequisites first, then the promotion
board would consider the promotion.
My dad was promoted from colonel to brigadier general but he didn't
serve long enough as a general so when he retired, his rank was colonel.
If he'd been offered UNIT, would he have re-upped?
Only if it came with a ride in the TARDIS.
You've done it! This shit is so fucking lame I don't even have a clever
quip for it!!
Don't kid yourself, Hutt, you reeking chunk of flotsam. You haven't had a
clever quip since the Reagan Administration.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-08 13:20:19 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by BTR1701
My dad was promoted from colonel to brigadier general but he didn't
serve long enough as a general so when he retired, his rank was colonel.
If he'd been offered UNIT, would he have re-upped?
Only if it came with a ride in the TARDIS.
You've done it! This shit is so fucking lame I don't even have a clever
quip for it!!
Don't kid yourself, Hutt, you reeking chunk of flotsam. You haven't had a
clever quip since the Reagan Administration.
You're being generous.

--
Let's go Brandon!
moviePig
2024-08-07 21:34:40 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever you want.
You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years at a time. Walz's
fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served his country honorably for 24
years and retired at the rank of command sergeant major and deserves to be
respected for it. What more do you want?
You'll be eating at the nerds' table this week...
trotsky
2024-08-08 07:45:30 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Speaking of word salad: "There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this
is certainly not one of those a lots."


What the fuck was that?
BTR1701
2024-08-08 11:28:19 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by Ubiquitous
Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Walz lied about his military service, conveniently retiring before his
battalion was to be sent to Iraq.
There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this is certainly is not one of
them.
Speaking of word salad: "There's a lot to criticize about Walz but this
is certainly not one of those a lots."
What the fuck was that?
Who knows? You put quotation marks around it as if someone actually said
those words but no one did, so you're just lying again as usual.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-08 17:44:44 UTC
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Everyone in the military knows that you can't just retire whenever you want.
You sign an enlistment contract, typically for six years at a time. Walz's
fourth enlistment ended and he retired. He served his country honorably for 24
years and retired at the rank of command sergeant major and deserves to be
respected for it. What more do you want?
CSM is about as high as it gets in the NCO ranks...
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-06 23:22:37 UTC
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Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro did
have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal with some
of his staff.
The negatives versus Shapiro came down to the Mel Brooks line: Too
Jewish. Let's not kid ourselves that it was anything other than this. I
don't think the sexual harrassment payment would affet

Shapiro has actual governance skills that Kamala utterly lacks. She had
a reputation in California for never even trying to lobby the state
legislature, which is a skill that the executive requires. Shapiro
figured out a way to work with a evenly divided legislature in
Pennsylvania. Also, the guy is somewhat conservative on a few issues.

My big fear was that had Kamala picked Shapiro, then having a Jewish vice
president would have been cover for potential anti-Israel positions.
Post by shawn
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some entertaining
TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks on Trump/Vance
in the past week that I saw.
Rhino
2024-08-06 23:34:28 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by shawn
So now we know that the political ads will look like for the next few
months (and boy oh boy will I get a lot of them here in Georgia.)
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about
him in the past few weeks while the other likely candidate Shapiro
did have some negatives in terms of his stances and some scandal
with some of his staff.
The negatives versus Shapiro came down to the Mel Brooks line: Too
Jewish. Let's not kid ourselves that it was anything other than this.
I don't think the sexual harrassment payment would affet
Shapiro has actual governance skills that Kamala utterly lacks. She
had a reputation in California for never even trying to lobby the
state legislature, which is a skill that the executive requires.
Shapiro figured out a way to work with a evenly divided legislature in
Pennsylvania. Also, the guy is somewhat conservative on a few issues.
My big fear was that had Kamala picked Shapiro, then having a Jewish
vice president would have been cover for potential anti-Israel
positions.
I'm going to be shocked if she doesn't have anti-Israel positions with
or without the cover of a Jewish husband or VP.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by shawn
Vance vs Walz in a national TV debate would make for some
entertaining TV as Walz has made some of the most effective attacks
on Trump/Vance in the past week that I saw.
--
Rhino
Ubiquitous
2024-08-07 08:57:18 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz was one of the many Democrats who participated in the
recent cover up, saying publicly that President Joe BidenÂ’s health wasnÂ’t
failing when he claimed in July that Biden was “fit for office.”

In a throwback clip from CNN dated July 3, 2024, Walz spoke to the press
outside the White House and told the American people that Biden was going to
be able to stay in the presidential race against former President Donald
Trump, amid an onslaught of calls for Biden to step out of the race due to
his disastrous CNN presidential debate performance against Trump.

“Yes, fit for office,” Walz said when asked by reporters if the president was
“fit for office” following a closed-door meeting between Biden, Vice
President Kamala Harris, and a handful of other Democrat governors, CNN
noted.

FLASHBACK

Just last month Tim Walz said Joe Biden was “fit for office.”
pic.twitter.com/yFdU7yCuao

— Francis Brennan (@FrancisBrennan) August 6, 2024

“The president has 3 œ years of delivering for us going through what we’ve
all been through,” he added. “None of us are denying Thursday night was a bad
performance,” Walz said, in reference to Biden’s debate with former President
Trump on June 27 of this year. “It was a bad hit, if you will on that, but it
doesn’t impact what I believe: He’s delivering.”

When pressed further by reporters about whether Biden had explained to Walz
his terrible debate performance, Walz replied, “Yeah, he did. He said,
‘Look,’ he didn’t listen to himself.”

“I think this idea that you get in your own head, you get a little bit cycled
up on that,” he added. What we saw in there today was a guy who was the guy
that all of us believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump and he
did beat Donald Trump.”

On July 21, Biden dropped out of the race, more than two weeks after Walz
stood in front of cameras and claimed the president was fine to lead our
country for another four years.

Interest in WalzÂ’s past comments exploded on Tuesday after Democratic
presidential nominee Kamala Harris announced that Walz would be her running
mate for the 2024 presidential election.

Harris has also been accused of helping hide BidenÂ’s failing health. Fox
News’ Greg Gutfeld recently said Harris aided in “the most egregious and
dangerous political cover-up in American history,” as The Daily Wire
previously reported.

“It’s that she lied to the American people, aiding the most egregious and
dangerous political cover-up in American history,” Gutfeld said. “Then, when
the time was right, she took his spot and his money.”

“Now, I do believe the modern media consumer is savvy enough to see this.
Certainly you won’t fall for it,” he added. “We’ve been burned by this stove
many times before, the stove being the hoax-inducing mediaÂ…So remember who
burned you last time as you experience the most orchestrated hoax yet.”

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Let's go Brandon!
BTR1701
2024-08-07 16:11:37 UTC
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Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota's governor either has extreme views or was too weak to stand up t
activists opposed to the National Guard, he's in favor of citizen spying, an
he's demanding the medicalization of gender confusion

According to the media, Democratic Presidential candidate Kamala Harris mad
an excellent choice in selecting Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her vic
presidential running mate. Walz bridges the gap between the Democratic Party'
progressive base and the moderates that Harris and Walz need to win over t
maintain control over the White House, they say. And Pennsylvania Governo
Josh Shapiro, the other front-runner, was too divisive on Israel, they add
and risked overshadowing Harris.

But three major controversies threaten Walz's image as a moderate. Walz waite
three days before asking for the deployment of the National Guard after Blac
Lives Matter protests turned into fiery riots that destroyed hundreds o
businesses in. Minneapolis. Walz created a "snitch line" through whic
thousands of Minnesotans reported their neighbors, co-workers, and polic
officers to the government for things like not wearing masks while outdoors
And Walz doubled down last year on letting doctors and surgeons give drugs t
and operate on children and adolescents confused about their gender at a tim
when Britain and much of Europe are coming to their senses and banning it.

Harris' political advisors might note that Walz ultimately brought riotin
under control and that deploying the National Guard was a difficult decisio
aimed at balancing the need for security with the rights of peacefu
protesters. While the "snitch line" for COVID-19 violations was controversial
Harris' team could frame it as a necessary measure during an unprecedente
public health crisis and stress that those actions were part of a broade
strategy to keep Minnesotans safe. And they might note that Walz's gende
policies ensure medical decisions are made with thorough support and parenta
involvement and align with established medical guidelines.

But the more anyone looks at these three decisive cases, the worse it look
for Walz. Walz's delayed deployment of the National Guard against BLM rioter
led to destruction and chaos, showing his failure to act decisively when i
mattered most, undermining his commitment to protect both public safety an
civil liberties. The snitch line for COVID-19 violations was a massiv
overreach of government power inconsistent with the American way and mor
similar to the kind of tip lines common under Communist regimes. And Walz no
only supports irreversible medical treatments for minors without long-ter
studies on their effects, at a time when other countries are moving t
restrict such practices, he last year advertised Minnesota as a state tha
would expand gender procedures to people from out of state and favor
expending taxpayer money to pay for them.

In truth, Walz's failure to stop the BLM riots, the COVID snitch line, and th
growing gender medical mistreatment scandal could significantly hurt Harri
with swing moderate voters in key battleground states, where Donald Trump'
campaign is already depicting her as part of the radical Left. Most American
want the National Guard called out to prevent violence and looting. Whil
Democrats generally supported stringent COVID-19 measures, many independen
swing voters viewed them as invasive and excessive. And significantly mor
voters oppose allowing doctors and medical professionals to give drugs an
perform radical surgeries on minors.

Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro would have been a significantly stronge
vice-presidential pick for Harris. He has proven able to win over moderate an
independent voters in a critical swing state, which could be pivotal in thi
election. And, unlike Tim Walz, Shapiro does not carry nearly as muc
controversial baggage associated with delayed National Guard deployment during
the BLM protests, the implementation of a COVID-19 snitch line, or such
extreme gender medicine policies.

Given that Walz's controversies could hurt Harris with moderates, why did she
pick him as her running mate? And why, if Walz is so progressive, has he done
things that have undermined the progressive, liberal, and Democratic value of
caring for the vulnerable?
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-07 17:20:56 UTC
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. . . And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, the other front-runner,
was too divisive on Israel, they add, and risked overshadowing Harris.
How is one not divisive on Israel? Overshadowing Harris, 'cuz she's got
too little personality? Oh, that's mean.

[Gov Tim Walz D-Minn]
But three major controversies threaten Walz's image as a moderate. Walz waited
three days before asking for the deployment of the National Guard after Black
Lives Matter protests turned into fiery riots that destroyed hundreds of
businesses in. . . .
I'm not commenting on the rest. I've done a bit of reading on Josh
Shapiro and I've come to like the guy. There were some economic policies
he implemented that I didn't agree with but nothing unusual for a
Democrat. Generally, I liked that he figured out how to work with
Republicans in the state legislature as they either had the majority or
were close to even. Kamala lacks legislative skills and this would have
been important. Also I really wanted the anti-Semites to be pissed off.

Can you comment further on deploying the National Guard? During Lori
Lightfoot's administration, there were repeated episodes of large-scale
looting and vandalism and some violent crime. There were a few arsons
but it wasn't widespread like the King riots of 1968.

It was nothing compared to other cities.

But we repeatedly had calls to deploy the National Guard, especially in
response to increasing violent crime not associated with looting in
other parts of the city.

Why is calling out the National Guard the go-to response for trouble?
They aren't police; they don't investigate crime.

In the post Kent State era, are they now receiving special counter-riot
training like some big city police officers receive?

The National Guard, when they aren't deployed during war, have civilian
functions related to disaster preparedness. That's what these guys were
recruited to do.

Without counter-riot training, I don't want these guys deployed to deal
with riots, getting into an altercation to which they respond poorly,
then finding that they are being sued for a civil rights violation.

Countering riots is the shittiest of all first responder jobs. It's
almost impossible not to club somebody on the head, or shoot him, who it
turns out wasn't doing anything violent or was not committing a crime.
Too much "fog of war" is possible when things really get out of hand.
BTR1701
2024-08-07 17:33:33 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . . And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, the other front-runner,
was too divisive on Israel, they add, and risked overshadowing Harris.
How is one not divisive on Israel? Overshadowing Harris, 'cuz she's got
too little personality? Oh, that's mean.
[Gov Tim Walz D-Minn]
But three major controversies threaten Walz's image as a moderate. Wal
waited
three days before asking for the deployment of the National Guard after Black
Lives Matter protests turned into fiery riots that destroyed hundreds of
businesses in. . . .
I'm not commenting on the rest. I've done a bit of reading on Josh
Shapiro and I've come to like the guy. There were some economic policies
he implemented that I didn't agree with but nothing unusual for a
Democrat. Generally, I liked that he figured out how to work with
Republicans in the state legislature as they either had the majority or
were close to even. Kamala lacks legislative skills and this would have
been important. Also I really wanted the anti-Semites to be pissed off.
Can you comment further on deploying the National Guard? During Lori
Lightfoot's administration, there were repeated episodes of large-scale
looting and vandalism and some violent crime. There were a few arsons
but it wasn't widespread like the King riots of 1968.
It was nothing compared to other cities.
But we repeatedly had calls to deploy the National Guard, especially in
response to increasing violent crime not associated with looting in
other parts of the city.
Why is calling out the National Guard the go-to response for trouble?
They aren't police; they don't investigate crime.
No, but they stop the shenanigans cold. But soldiers on every corner in tank
and Humvees with full-auto rifles and the miscreants usually suddenly realiz
they have other things to do.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
In the post Kent State era, are they now receiving special counter-riot
training like some big city police officers receive?
The National Guard, when they aren't deployed during war, have civilian
functions related to disaster preparedness. That's what these guys were
recruited to do.
Without counter-riot training, I don't want these guys deployed to deal
with riots, getting into an altercation to which they respond poorly,
then finding that they are being sued for a civil rights violation.
Countering riots is the shittiest of all first responder jobs. It's
almost impossible not to club somebody on the head, or shoot him, who it
turns out wasn't doing anything violent or was not committing a crime.
Too much "fog of war" is possible when things really get out of hand.
Adam H. Kerman
2024-08-07 19:17:57 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . . And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, the other front-runner,
was too divisive on Israel, they add, and risked overshadowing Harris.
How is one not divisive on Israel? Overshadowing Harris, 'cuz she's got
too little personality? Oh, that's mean.
[Gov Tim Walz D-Minn]
But three major controversies threaten Walz's image as a moderate. Walz
waited three days before asking for the deployment of the National
Guard after Black Lives Matter protests turned into fiery riots that
destroyed hundreds of businesses in. . . .
I'm not commenting on the rest. I've done a bit of reading on Josh
Shapiro and I've come to like the guy. There were some economic policies
he implemented that I didn't agree with but nothing unusual for a
Democrat. Generally, I liked that he figured out how to work with
Republicans in the state legislature as they either had the majority or
were close to even. Kamala lacks legislative skills and this would have
been important. Also I really wanted the anti-Semites to be pissed off.
Can you comment further on deploying the National Guard? During Lori
Lightfoot's administration, there were repeated episodes of large-scale
looting and vandalism and some violent crime. There were a few arsons
but it wasn't widespread like the King riots of 1968.
It was nothing compared to other cities.
But we repeatedly had calls to deploy the National Guard, especially in
response to increasing violent crime not associated with looting in
other parts of the city.
Why is calling out the National Guard the go-to response for trouble?
They aren't police; they don't investigate crime.
No, but they stop the shenanigans cold. But soldiers on every corner in tanks
and Humvees with full-auto rifles and the miscreants usually suddenly realize
they have other things to do.
Yes, I understand the deterrence aspect to a military show of force, but
THAT will not stop a riot cold. You just know that some inexperienced
kid from a rural area in the National Guard will find himself in a
confrontation and will shoot. That's not what he signed up for.

The governor will always expect the local police to contain the
situation. Calling in police from surrounding areas might be better than
calling in the Guard, but it's impossible to predict how to avoid a bad
situation getting worse.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
In the post Kent State era, are they now receiving special counter-riot
training like some big city police officers receive?
The National Guard, when they aren't deployed during war, have civilian
functions related to disaster preparedness. That's what these guys were
recruited to do.
Without counter-riot training, I don't want these guys deployed to deal
with riots, getting into an altercation to which they respond poorly,
then finding that they are being sued for a civil rights violation.
Countering riots is the shittiest of all first responder jobs. It's
almost impossible not to club somebody on the head, or shoot him, who it
turns out wasn't doing anything violent or was not committing a crime.
Too much "fog of war" is possible when things really get out of hand.
trotsky
2024-08-08 07:48:08 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . . And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, the other front-runner,
was too divisive on Israel, they add, and risked overshadowing Harris.
How is one not divisive on Israel? Overshadowing Harris, 'cuz she's got
too little personality? Oh, that's mean.
[Gov Tim Walz D-Minn]
But three major controversies threaten Walz's image as a moderate. Walz waited
three days before asking for the deployment of the National Guard after Black
Lives Matter protests turned into fiery riots that destroyed hundreds of
businesses in. . . .
I'm not commenting on the rest. I've done a bit of reading on Josh
Shapiro and I've come to like the guy. There were some economic policies
he implemented that I didn't agree with but nothing unusual for a
Democrat. Generally, I liked that he figured out how to work with
Republicans in the state legislature as they either had the majority or
were close to even. Kamala lacks legislative skills and this would have
been important. Also I really wanted the anti-Semites to be pissed off.
Can you comment further on deploying the National Guard? During Lori
Lightfoot's administration, there were repeated episodes of large-scale
looting and vandalism and some violent crime. There were a few arsons
but it wasn't widespread like the King riots of 1968.
It was nothing compared to other cities.
But we repeatedly had calls to deploy the National Guard, especially in
response to increasing violent crime not associated with looting in
other parts of the city.
Why is calling out the National Guard the go-to response for trouble?
They aren't police; they don't investigate crime.
No, but they stop the shenanigans cold. But soldiers on every corner in tanks
and Humvees with full-auto rifles and the miscreants usually suddenly realize
they have other things to do.
Either you misspelled the word "Put" or this is just more word salad.
trotsky
2024-08-08 07:35:40 UTC
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Post by shawn
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota's governor either has extreme views or was too weak to stand up to
activists opposed to the National Guard, he's in favor of citizen spying, and
he's demanding the medicalization of gender confusion
But you have no comments on the weirdo who likes to fuck couches?
BTR1701
2024-08-08 11:28:18 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by shawn
Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her VP pick, a truly safe pick.
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota's governor either has extreme views or was too weak to stand up to
activists opposed to the National Guard, he's in favor of citizen spying, and
he's demanding the medicalization of gender confusion
But you have no comments on the weirdo who likes to fuck couches?
Which, of course, is a made-up lie, so why would anyone with any integrity
feel the need to comment on it?
Ubiquitous
2024-08-07 20:31:12 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
The wife of Democrat VP-pick Tim Walz said during an interview in 2020 that
she kept her windows open for as long as she could so she could smell the
burning of tires rioters set on fire during the Minneapolis-area riots in
response to the death of George Floyd.

During the 2020 riots, cities like Minneapolis burned, costing hundreds of
millions of dollars in damage. Gov. Walz has been criticized for his slow
response to the destruction and violence by the left-wing protesters.

“We had more sleepless nights during the riots,” Gwen Walz told an ABC News
affiliate back in July 2020. “I could smell the burning tires, and that was a
very real thing. I kept the windows open as long as I could because I felt
like that was such a touchstone of what was happening.”

The clip of GwenÂ’s comments has gone viral in the wake of VP Kamala Harris
choosing Walz as her running mate.

Daily Wire host Matt Walsh commented on the clip, writing, “Everything you
need to know about leftist elites can be found in this short clip. Tim WalzÂ’s
wife sat by the window enjoying the smell of poor neighborhoods burning
during the Floyd riots. She did everything but pull out a fiddle.”

WATCH:

Everything you need to know about leftist elites can be found in
this short clip. Tim WalzÂ’s wife sat by the window enjoying the
smell of poor neighborhoods burning during the Floyd riots. She
did everything but pull out a fiddle.

pic.twitter.com/IVJYORX4vu

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) August 6, 2024

Notably, Walz admitted in the spring of 2020 that there was an “abject
failure” in the response to the rioters who burned businesses and a police
precinct.

WATCH THE TRAILER FOR ‘AM I RACIST?’ — A MATT WALSH COMEDY ON DEI

“Minneapolis and St. Paul are on fire,” Walz said during a press conference.
“The fire is still smoldering in our streets. The ashes are symbolic of
decades and generations of pain, of anguish unheard.”

He added that he received a call from a state senator who told him that her
district was “on fire, no police, no firefighters, no social control,
constituents locked in houses wondering what they were going to do.”

“That is an abject failure that cannot happen,” Walz said.

[She thinks that sitting by the window smelling the burning tires gave some
kind of solidarity to the "cause?" How weird.]

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BTR1701
2024-08-08 01:29:12 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
The wife of Democrat VP-pick Tim Walz said during an interview in 2020 that
she kept her windows open for as long as she could so she could smell the
burning of tires rioters set on fire during the Minneapolis-area riots in
response to the death of George Floyd.
During the 2020 riots, cities like Minneapolis burned, costing hundreds of
millions of dollars in damage. Gov. Walz has been criticized for his slow
response to the destruction and violence by the left-wing protesters.
"We had more sleepless nights during the riots," Gwen Walz told an ABC News
affiliate back in July 2020. "I could smell the burning tires, and that was a
very real thing. I kept the windows open as long as I could because I felt
like that was such a touchstone of what was happening."
That's almost as good as Michelle Obama saying she was never proud to be
an American until the moment they nominated her husband for president.

Of course the media will ignore it. Some ancient joking comment Vance
made about cat ladies dominates the new cycle for a week but this won't
even be reported on in the studios of CNN, ABC, and NBC.
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The clip of Gwen's comments has gone viral in the wake of VP Kamala Harris
choosing Walz as her running mate.
Daily Wire host Matt Walsh commented on the clip, writing, "Everything you
need to know about leftist elites can be found in this short clip. Tim
Walz's wife sat by the window enjoying the smell of poor neighborhoods
burning during the Floyd riots. She did everything but pull out a fiddle."
Heh. I had the exact same mental image.
trotsky
2024-08-08 07:59:55 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
The wife of Democrat VP-pick Tim Walz said during an interview in 2020 that
she kept her windows open for as long as she could so she could smell the
burning of tires rioters set on fire during the Minneapolis-area riots in
response to the death of George Floyd.
During the 2020 riots, cities like Minneapolis burned, costing hundreds of
millions of dollars in damage. Gov. Walz has been criticized for his slow
response to the destruction and violence by the left-wing protesters.
"We had more sleepless nights during the riots," Gwen Walz told an ABC News
affiliate back in July 2020. "I could smell the burning tires, and that was a
very real thing. I kept the windows open as long as I could because I felt
like that was such a touchstone of what was happening."
That's almost as good as Michelle Obama saying she was never proud to be
an American until the moment they nominated her husband for president.
Of course the media will ignore it. Some ancient joking comment Vance
made about cat ladies
You misspelled "judgemental horseshit." Hope this helps. You're a
childless cat lady, aren't you?
Ubiquitous
2024-08-08 08:30:47 UTC
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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz once fled from police during a 90s DUI (driving under
the influence) arrest and later blamed deafness as the cause, though court
records dispute his claim.

On Tuesday, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Vice President
Kamala Harris announced Walz as her running mate. Following the announcement,
numerous stories resurfaced about WalzÂ’s past, including his 1995 DUI arrest,
Newsweek reported.

According to a court transcript obtained by the outlet, Walz was driving in
excess of 90 miles per hour in a 55 mph speed zone when police pulled him
over.

He failed a sobriety test and a breath test in which his blood-alcohol level
registered at 0.128%, which was way above the stateÂ’s legal limit at the time
of .08%, according to a Nebraska state trooperÂ’s report, the New York Post
noted.

The report also noted that “a strong odor of alcoholic beverage was detected
emitting from Mr. Walz[‘s] breath and person.” The governor was then booked
into Dawes County Jail.

Since Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is officially being reported as a
favorite to become the VP pick for Kamala Harris.

Here he is pictured from his DUI arrest where he was going 96 in a
55. He then lied to police about being deaf in an attempt to avoid
his arrest. pic.twitter.com/HVMznZaNe5

— Dustin Grage (@GrageDustin) August 5, 2024

In court, his attorney claimed Walz had only fled from police because he
mistakenly thought he was being chased by someone, but he finally pulled over
once the officer turned on his siren, Newsweek noted.

“This is a little bit bizarre, but Mr. Walz thought somebody was chasing him.
The officer didn’t turn on his red lights and he — somebody came up real fast
behind him and he didn’t know what they were doing,” Walz’s lawyer Russell
Harford told the judge.

“So he sped up to try to get away, fearing that somebody was after him. Lo
and behold, it was a state patrolman that was behind him, so the faster he
went, the faster the state patrol officer went,” he added.

“Finally, he did turn on his red lights,” Harford continued. “The speed was
fairly excessive, judge, a lot over the speed limit. I donÂ’t even know what
was alleged in the complaint, it may have been 90 something. Mr. Walz had
been—had been drinking, so I think there’s a sufficient factual basis, judge,
to support the plea,” Harford added.

Walz was initially charged with driving under the influence, but ended up
having the charges dropped to reckless driving after taking a plea agreement
in which he had to admit that he “drove a vehicle in a manner as to indicate
an indifference or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property,”
according to Alpha News.

In 2006, Walz ran for Congress in Minnesota and when the issue of the DUI
came up, his campaign manager Kerry Greeley told the Post Bulletin out of
Rochester, Minnesota, that Walz wasnÂ’t drunk.

“He couldn’t understand what the officer was saying to him,” Greeley then
claimed, saying Walz had suffered some kind of hearing loss from his time in
the Army National Guard, the Post noted.

The Post noted that court records involving WalzÂ’s DUI arrest and the state
trooperÂ’s report do not back up the hearing loss claim.

Walz reportedly has previously said he was not drunk at the time, Newsweek
noted.

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Let's go Brandon!
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:28:36 UTC
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“So he sped up to try to get away, fearing that somebody was after him. Lo
and behold, it was a state patrolman that was behind him, so the faster he
went, the faster the state patrol officer went,” he added.
“Finally, he did turn on his red lights,” Harford continued. “The speed was
fairly excessive, judge, a lot over the speed limit. I donÂ’t even know what
was alleged in the complaint, it may have been 90 something. Mr. Walz had
been—had been drinking, so I think there’s a sufficient factual basis, judge,
to support the plea,” Harford added.
Sounds like something that happened to my grandfather some 40 years
ago - the police car had his high beams on so my grandfather sped up
to get away from them with the rest of the story being he got up to
80+ before the flashers came on. While writing the ticket the officer
asked him why he was speeding on a country road my grandfather said
that he was trying to get away from the car behind him (and pointed to
the police car).

The officer said "Oh right - sorry about that" and tore up the ticket.

So I can very much believe this story. (Though in my grandfather's
case he was a lifelong teetotaller)
Ubiquitous
2024-08-08 08:30:49 UTC
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Minnesota, under Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, prioritized non-white residents
for COVID-19 treatments during the pandemic.

In Minnesota, an “ethical framework” prioritized black 18-year-olds over
elderly whites, even though the elderly were at a much higher risk of severe
complications due to COVID, the Free Beacon reported in January 2022.

The racial discrimination stemmed from the FDAÂ’s guidance when authorizing
monoclonal antibodies and oral antivirals for emergency use. The FDA only
authorized these treatments for “high risk” patients, and included race as a
factor determining someone to be “high risk.”

As the Free Beacon noted in 2022:

The FDA “fact sheet” for Sotrovimab, the only monoclonal antibody
effective against the Omicron variant, states that “race or
ethnicity” can “place individual patients at high risk for
progression to severe COVID-19.” The fact sheet for Paxlovid,
PfizerÂ’s new antiviral pill, uses the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention’s definition of “high risk,” which states that
“systemic health and social inequities” have put minorities “at
increased risk of getting sick and dying from COVID-19.”

Even though the guidance is nonbinding, several states used it to justify
race-based triage to the detriment of those at a higher risk of dying from
COVID-19.

Minnesota, for example, explicitly cited the FDA as the reason it prioritized
lower-risk minorities over higher-risk white people.

“The FDA has acknowledged that in addition to certain underlying health
conditions, race and ethnicity ‘may also place individual patients at high
risk for progression to severe COVID-19,’” Minnesota’s racial triage plan
states. “FDA’s acknowledgment means that race and ethnicity alone, apart from
other underlying health conditions, may be considered in determining
eligibility for [monoclonal antibodies].”

The FDA said race may be considered, but it never said race should be the
priority when determining who should get treatment.

Unsurprisingly, even though men were approximately 50% more likely to die
from COVID than women – according to research from the Brookings Institution
– sex was not included as a risk factor in the FDA guidance.

As the Free Beacon noted, the triage in Minnesota gave non-white patients two
points when determining risk, whereas comorbidities like “hypertension in a
patient 55 years and older” were only worth one point.

The policy followed others in Minnesota, which are getting renewed attention
after Vice President Kamala Harris chose Walz as her running mate. Another
policy Walz implemented was a COVID hotline that allowed Minnesotans to
snitch on their neighbors for violating lockdown orders.

The hotline generated thousands of reports – against people playing
basketball, walking their dogs, or attending church, local outlet Alpha News
reported in 2022. WalzÂ’s administration continued to monitor the hotline
until November 2020, though it remained operational until June 2022.

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BTR1701
2024-08-08 13:42:12 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota, under Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, prioritized non-white residents
for COVID-19 treatments during the pandemic.
Oh yeah! I remember posting about this at the time.

Nothing like playing racism with treating a deadly disease. But it's okay
with Democrats because it was whites who were being discriminated against.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-08 22:30:43 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota, under Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, prioritized non-white residents
for COVID-19 treatments during the pandemic.
Oh yeah! I remember posting about this at the time.
Yeah, I remember too, but didn;t realize it was this man.

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Let's go Brandon!
trotsky
2024-08-09 09:36:49 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota, under Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, prioritized non-white residents
for COVID-19 treatments during the pandemic.
Oh yeah! I remember posting about this at the time.
I don't remember that. Prove it you fucking weasel.
trotsky
2024-08-09 09:38:04 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Minnesota, under Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, prioritized non-white residents
for COVID-19 treatments during the pandemic.
Oh yeah! I remember posting about this at the time.
Nothing like playing racism with treating a deadly disease. But it's okay
with Democrats because it was whites who were being discriminated against.
It is funny as fuck, though, to hear this from the party of racism./
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:33:24 UTC
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Minnesota, under Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, prioritized non-white residents
for COVID-19 treatments during the pandemic.
In Minnesota, an “ethical framework” prioritized black 18-year-olds over
elderly whites, even though the elderly were at a much higher risk of severe
complications due to COVID, the Free Beacon reported in January 2022.
The racial discrimination stemmed from the FDAÂ’s guidance when authorizing
monoclonal antibodies and oral antivirals for emergency use. The FDA only
authorized these treatments for “high risk” patients, and included race as a
factor determining someone to be “high risk.”
I was furious with my provincial government around that time since I
(an age 60+ diabetic) was put to the end of the vaccine queue behind
18-year-old aboriginals (which is what proper Canadians call Indians
these days) including those who were in perfect health and in close
range to hospitals. I eventually got my shots but given I was working
in my star dealing with customers every day throughout the pandemic
(it was that or close my store and default on my line of credit) I
slept on the couch for two years (my late wife was an anti-vaxer) to
reduce the risk to other family members.

So yes I very much DO understand Minnesotan's outrage at playing
racial roulette over vaccine availability.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-08 08:30:52 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Governor Tim Walz (D-MN) says that there is "no guarantee to free speech"
when it comes to "misinformation or hate speech," and argued on MSNBC that
there needed to be some "pushback" on those things.

Walz made the comments during a December 2022 appearance on MSNBC's "The
Reidout," where he spoke about possible repercussions for spreading
"misinformation" with regard to elections in the United States.

WATCH:


"I think we need to push back on this. There's no guarantee to free speech on
misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy," Walz
said in the clip that circulated on social media on Wednesday, just 24 hours
after Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party's 2024 presidential
nominee, chose him to be her running mate.

Critics responded to Walz's comment, noting that the First Amendment of the
United States Constitution begged to differ.

"I'd probably die if a Democrat understood what our rights are and how they
work," Frank Fleming posted.

I'd probably die if a Democrat understood what our rights are and
how they work. https://t.co/JEZIecx7sU

-- Frank J. Fleming (@IMAO_) August 7, 2024

"There is, actually, it's called the First Amendment," another posted.

There is, actually, it's called the First Amendment.
https://t.co/eJxLnCoSKi

-- Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) August 7, 2024

"Uh, yeah there is. Misinformation and hate speech are literally protected by
the First Amendment," Noah Smith pointed out.

Uh, yeah there is. Misinformation and hate speech are literally
protected by the First Amendment. https://t.co/YPhoG7ikXa

-- Noah Smith ?????????? (@Noahpinion) August 7, 2024

"Dude's a straight up communist. An actual communist," Trump adviser Stephen
Miller commented.

Dude's a straight up communist. An actual communist.
https://t.co/LHJ6HGqmBE

-- Stephen Miller (@StephenM) August 7, 2024

"Walz couldn't be more wrong in suggesting 'there's no guarantee to free
speech' when it comes to anything progressive Democrats might label
'misinformation' or 'hate speech.' Don't trust this man with power," Senator
Mike Lee (R-UT) added.

Walz couldn't be more wrong in suggesting "there's no guarantee to
free speech" when it comes to anything progressive Democrats might
label "misinformation" or "hate speech."

Don't trust this man with power. https://t.co/HWv5xdXKF9

-- Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) August 7, 2024

During the same interview, Walz referenced previous instances in which
"insidious" efforts at spreading "misinformation" had harmed the American
people -- namely during the COVID-19 pandemic and after January 6th -- but he
suggested that Democrats were fully engaged in stopping said "misinformation"
rather than spreading it.

WATCH the full interview here:


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BTR1701
2024-08-08 13:42:12 UTC
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There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Governor Tim Walz (D-MN) says that there is "no guarantee to free speech"
when it comes to "misinformation or hate speech," and argued on MSNBC that
there needed to be some "pushback" on those things.
(1) He's unequivocally wrong that misinformation and hate speech are not
protected by the 1st Amendment. 200+ years of 1A jurisprudence says they
are.

(2) The fact that he wants to "push back" against the idea of free speech
should disqualify him from the vice presidency, plain and simple. It
doesn't legally but it should at the ballot box.

And it's particularly hypocritical that he should say misinformation isn't
protected speech and should be "pushed back on" considering he just
knowingly helped spread the whole Vance/couch lie at a campaign rally.
Apparently misinformation is cool when a Democrat does it.
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Walz suggested that Democrats were fully engaged in stopping said "misinformation"
rather than spreading it.
Hahahahahahaha!
trotsky
2024-08-09 09:39:41 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Governor Tim Walz (D-MN) says that there is "no guarantee to free speech"
when it comes to "misinformation or hate speech," and argued on MSNBC that
there needed to be some "pushback" on those things.
(1) He's unequivocally wrong that misinformation and hate speech are not
protected by the 1st Amendment. 200+ years of 1A jurisprudence says they
are.
You're unequivocally wrong. There's no guarantee of free speech unless
you're specifically talking about govt. entities.
The Horny Goat
2024-08-09 16:36:46 UTC
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Post by shawn
There's little in the way of negative things that I've heard about him
Governor Tim Walz (D-MN) says that there is "no guarantee to free speech"
when it comes to "misinformation or hate speech," and argued on MSNBC that
there needed to be some "pushback" on those things.
(1) He's unequivocally wrong that misinformation and hate speech are not
protected by the 1st Amendment. 200+ years of 1A jurisprudence says they
are.
My immediate reaction to that statement was "What the h*ll does he
think the whole furor over the ACLU supporting the Nazis at Skokie, IL
was all about?!?"

Does Walz actually think they should have been arrested on their
march?
Ubiquitous
2024-08-09 08:30:43 UTC
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As Somali refugees in Minnesota waged gang wars and engaged in child sex
trafficking, Governor Tim Walz pushed for even more refugees to be resettled
in his state.

Walz, whom Vice President Kamala Harris tapped as her running mate this week,
petitioned the Trump administration to send more refugees to Minnesota in
2019, even though the state already had the highest number of refugees per
capita in the United States. The call came as Somali refugees, a large and
growing population in Minnesota, engaged in gang warfare, child sex
trafficking, and later, hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud.

“Minnesota has a strong moral tradition of welcoming those who seek refuge.
Our state has always stepped forward to help those who are fleeing desperate
situations and need a safe place to call home,” Walz wrote in a letter to
then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. “I offer my consent to continue refugee
resettlement in the State of Minnesota.”

WalzÂ’s request was a response to former President Donald TrumpÂ’s move to
allow states and localities to deny increased refugee resettlement in their
communities. Walz, who had previously pushed for Minnesota to become a
sanctuary state, has a long record of supporting unfettered immigration. His
record on immigration has come under increased scrutiny after Harris named
him to the Democratic presidential ticket.

“Refugees strengthen our communities. Bringing new cultures and fresh
perspectives, they contribute to the social fabric of our state,” Walz said
in his letter to Pompeo.

But Somali refugees brought more than fresh perspectives to Minnesota. Since
at least 2009, members of MinneapolisÂ’s Somali refugee community have formed
gangs along the same clan lines that plunged Somalia into civil war. Members
of the gangs — many of whom fled Somalia to escape clan warfare — engaged in
what appeared to be targeted murders against one another. In 2008 the
Minneapolis Police Department created a special Somali Liaison position in an
attempt to stem the violence.

In 2012, authorities uncovered a Somali child sex trafficking ring operating
out of Minneapolis and St. Paul, as well as Columbus, Ohio and Nashville,
Tennessee. Multiple girls under the age of 14 had been forced into
prostitution by three different Somali gangs, resulting in the 30 different
defendants — many of whom were allowed into the United States as refugees —
being charged by federal authorities.

Violence between rival Somali gangs has continued to plague Minnesota in
recent years, particularly in MinneapolisÂ’ Cedar-Riverside neighborhood, now
referred to as “Little Mogadishu.” Violent crime in the area soared a
whopping 56 percent in 2018, with authorities attributing the rise to gangs
like the Somali Outlaws, the Somali Mafia, the Hot Boyz, and Madhibaan with
Attitude.

A YouTube personality visited Minneapolis this year to document the gang
warfare interviewed a bail bondsman and bounty hunter who said that “Somali
gangs are taking over.”

During WalzÂ’s tenure, Somali migrants in Minnesota defrauded the government
out of a quarter of a billion taxpayer dollars intended to feed impoverished
children. Nearly 50 defendants created a fraudulent organization called
“Feeding Our Future,” and multiple subsidiary organizations that defrauded
$250 million from a coronavirus relief program. Only $50 million of those
funds have been recovered.

Somalis were the largest refugee population in the North Star State as of
2023. The overall number of refugees set to be resettled in 2024 is expected
to surge from 1,500 to 2,400. Over 13,000 Somali refugees were accepted into
Minnesota between 2005 and 2018, and the state had 69,000 Somali residents as
of 2019, accounting for about 40 percent of all Somalis residing in the
entire United States.

Recent public opinion surveys have found that immigration is one of the most
important issues for voters heading into the November election, and that an
increasing share of Americans are in favor of slashing immigration and
ramping up mass deportations.
Ubiquitous
2024-08-09 08:30:45 UTC
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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz (D) signed a law last year that removed language
clarifying that pedophiles were excluded from the definition of sexual
orientation.

Walz was tapped as Vice President Kamala HarrisÂ’ running mate on Tuesday,
prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on LGBT and other issues.

On May 19 of last year, Walz signed the Judiciary and Public Safety bill,
which included the Take Pride Act, which had an amendment that updated the
definition of “sexual orientation.”

Tim Walz at his signing of legislation to make Minnesota a
sanctuary for children who want transgender medical interventions
last year pic.twitter.com/mZMyt1VoGI

— Mairead Elordi (@JohnsonHildy) August 6, 2024

Previously, Minnesota law had taken pains to explicitly exclude pedophiles
from the definition of sexual orientation, making it clear that pedophiles
are not part of the same protected category as gay people, for example.

“‘Sexual orientation’ does not include a physical or sexual attachment to
children by an adult,” read the old version of the law.

That sentence was struck in the new version of the law that Walz signed.

Minnesota law now simply defines “sexual orientation” as “to whom someone is,
or is perceived of as being, emotionally, physically, or sexually attracted
to based on sex or gender identity. A person may be attracted to men, women,
both, neither, or to people who are genderqueer, androgynous, or have other
gender identities.”

The Take Pride Act also added a definition of gender identity to Minnesota
law, defining it as “a person’s inherent sense of being a man, woman, both,
or neither” that “may or may not correspond to their assigned sex at birth or
to their primary or secondary sex characteristics” and is “not necessarily
visible to others.”

The bill removes “outdated language that wrongly prejudices LGBTQIA+
community members by attempting to tie sexual orientation to criminal acts,”
the Minnesota Department of Human Rights said.

State Representative Leigh Finke (D), a trans-identifying man representing
the Twin Cities, was behind the amendment that eliminated the language about
pedophiles.

During a committee hearing on the bill, Finke, who took office last year,
said his amendment “modernizes our Human Rights Act.”

“It’s important that we continue to evolve our laws and our understanding of
what it means to be a full and authentic human,” Finke said. “We do this
throughout history, throughout time, and this is a great moment for us to
expand what it means to be a person and to protect all of us. ThatÂ’s what my
bill does.”

Sporting half-dyed blue hair and a rainbow dress, Finke was also photographed
with his arm around Walz when the governor signed a different law that
doubled down on legal transgender medical interventions for children like
hormone treatments and surgeries.

Walz also signed legislation allowing Minnesota to seize custody of a child
whose parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care” and banned
“conversion therapy,” a vague term often used to dismiss talk therapy wherein
mental health professionals help make children comfortable with their
biological sex, rather than shunting them towards transgender surgeries and
hormone treatments.

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