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"The View" Hosts Have Collective Tantrum Over Penny Verdict: "Where Is Our Compassion?"
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Ubiquitous
2024-12-11 15:02:31 UTC
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The hosts of ABC's "The View," for the most part, were less than thrilled
that a New York jury acquitted Marine veteran Daniel Penny on Monday in the
death of Jordan Neely -- who boasted an impressive rap sheet, and had been
verbally threatening people on the subway before Penny stepped in.

Cohost Whoopi Goldberg began by arguing that Penny was somehow out of line
when he went to a bar in Manhattan to celebrate his acquittal. She added that
she believed the overall outcome of the case was proof that the justice
system had failed.

"He celebrated the verdict with his lawyer while Neely's family was mourning
the loss," she said.

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Whoopi says seeing Penny "celebrate in a bar made me feel
uncomfortable."
Hey, Whoopi. The people on that subway car certainly felt
uncomfortable when Neely was threating to harm them.
pic.twitter.com/EVcBedDudJ

-- Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) December 10, 2024

Goldberg went on to say that she was bothered by the fact that the Marine
veteran had chosen to toast his freedom at a bar: "I don't know that seeing
them celebrating in a bar made me comfortable."

She then addressed the verdict itself, arguing that it was a "failure of the
court" that Penny was not convicted. She said that Neely's behavior could
have stemmed from his mother's murder and argued that everyone -- from the
hospitals to the courts -- had failed him.

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Alyssa Farah Griffin says the "villain" in the story is not Penny
but rather "the city of New York who repeatedly fails people who
could be a danger to themselves and others."
"I have been on the subway and have felt unsafe," she says, noting
staffers for the show felt the same. pic.twitter.com/Y5IoAoVOdK

-- Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) December 10, 2024

Cohost Alyssa Farah Griffin pushed back a little bit, saying that she did not
believe Penny was the "villain." Instead, she blamed the city of New York for
failing to take steps to keep people safer on the subway.

When cohost Joy Behar weighed in, she claimed Penny had held Neely in a choke
too long and should have known better. She also suggested that the whole
situation could have been avoided if people had simply sat on Neely instead.

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Sunny Hostin claims Neely wasn't a danger to anyone because he had
not yet "put his hands on anyone on this occasion" and she falsely
claims "he didn't approach anyone in a threatening manner."
"Where is our compassion as a society?" she condescendingly lectured.
pic.twitter.com/kC2mB9qeNc

-- Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) December 10, 2024

Cohost Sunny Hostin ran defense for Neely as well, claiming that there was no
cause for Penny to act because Neely had not "put his hands on anyone on this
occasion" and "didn't approach anyone in a threatening manner."

"Where is our compassion as a society?" she demanded.

[Oh, the irony!]

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Let's go Brandon!
Rhino
2024-12-11 16:36:43 UTC
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The hosts of ABC's "The View," for the most part, were less than thrilled
that a New York jury acquitted Marine veteran Daniel Penny on Monday in the
death of Jordan Neely -- who boasted an impressive rap sheet, and had been
verbally threatening people on the subway before Penny stepped in.
Cohost Whoopi Goldberg began by arguing that Penny was somehow out of line
when he went to a bar in Manhattan to celebrate his acquittal. She added that
she believed the overall outcome of the case was proof that the justice
system had failed.
"He celebrated the verdict with his lawyer while Neely's family was mourning
the loss," she said.
Whoopi says seeing Penny "celebrate in a bar made me feel
uncomfortable."
Hey, Whoopi. The people on that subway car certainly felt
uncomfortable when Neely was threating to harm them.
pic.twitter.com/EVcBedDudJ
Goldberg went on to say that she was bothered by the fact that the Marine
veteran had chosen to toast his freedom at a bar: "I don't know that seeing
them celebrating in a bar made me comfortable."
She then addressed the verdict itself, arguing that it was a "failure of the
court" that Penny was not convicted. She said that Neely's behavior could
have stemmed from his mother's murder and argued that everyone -- from the
hospitals to the courts -- had failed him.
Alyssa Farah Griffin says the "villain" in the story is not Penny
but rather "the city of New York who repeatedly fails people who
could be a danger to themselves and others."
"I have been on the subway and have felt unsafe," she says, noting
staffers for the show felt the same. pic.twitter.com/Y5IoAoVOdK
Cohost Alyssa Farah Griffin pushed back a little bit, saying that she did not
believe Penny was the "villain." Instead, she blamed the city of New York for
failing to take steps to keep people safer on the subway.
When cohost Joy Behar weighed in, she claimed Penny had held Neely in a choke
too long and should have known better. She also suggested that the whole
situation could have been avoided if people had simply sat on Neely instead.
Sunny Hostin claims Neely wasn't a danger to anyone because he had
not yet "put his hands on anyone on this occasion" and she falsely
claims "he didn't approach anyone in a threatening manner."
"Where is our compassion as a society?" she condescendingly lectured.
pic.twitter.com/kC2mB9qeNc
Cohost Sunny Hostin ran defense for Neely as well, claiming that there was no
cause for Penny to act because Neely had not "put his hands on anyone on this
occasion" and "didn't approach anyone in a threatening manner."
"Where is our compassion as a society?" she demanded.
[Oh, the irony!]
They've got all the compassion in the world for a mentally-ill man that
was threatening subway passengers - and for their own delicate
sensibilities - but not a shred for the passengers on that subway car or
the Good Samaritan that came to their rescue and had to endure umpteen
months of criminal proceedings, not knowing if he was going to have to
spend a major chunk of his life in prison.
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Rhino
BTR1701
2024-12-11 18:19:14 UTC
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The hosts of ABC's "The View," for the most part, were less than thrilled
that a New York jury acquitted Marine veteran Daniel Penny on Monday in the
death of Jordan Neely -- who boasted an impressive rap sheet, and had been
verbally threatening people on the subway before Penny stepped in.
Cohost Whoopi Goldberg began by arguing that Penny was somehow out of line
when he went to a bar in Manhattan to celebrate his acquittal. She added that
she believed the overall outcome of the case was proof that the justice
system had failed.
"He celebrated the verdict with his lawyer while Neely's family was mourning
the loss," she said.
Whoopi says seeing Penny "celebrate in a bar made me feel
uncomfortable."
Hey, Whoopi. The people on that subway car certainly felt
uncomfortable when Neely was threating to harm them.
pic.twitter.com/EVcBedDudJ
Goldberg went on to say that she was bothered by the fact that the Marine
veteran had chosen to toast his freedom at a bar: "I don't know that seeing
them celebrating in a bar made me comfortable."
She then addressed the verdict itself, arguing that it was a "failure of the
court" that Penny was not convicted. She said that Neely's behavior could
have stemmed from his mother's murder and argued that everyone -- from the
hospitals to the courts -- had failed him.
Alyssa Farah Griffin says the "villain" in the story is not Penny
but rather "the city of New York who repeatedly fails people who
could be a danger to themselves and others."
"I have been on the subway and have felt unsafe," she says, noting
staffers for the show felt the same. pic.twitter.com/Y5IoAoVOdK
Cohost Alyssa Farah Griffin pushed back a little bit, saying that she did not
believe Penny was the "villain." Instead, she blamed the city of New York for
failing to take steps to keep people safer on the subway.
When cohost Joy Behar weighed in, she claimed Penny had held Neely in a choke
too long and should have known better. She also suggested that the whole
situation could have been avoided if people had simply sat on Neely instead.
Sunny Hostin claims Neely wasn't a danger to anyone because he had
not yet "put his hands on anyone on this occasion" and she falsely
claims "he didn't approach anyone in a threatening manner."
"Where is our compassion as a society?" she condescendingly lectured.
pic.twitter.com/kC2mB9qeNc
Cohost Sunny Hostin ran defense for Neely as well, claiming that there was no
cause for Penny to act because Neely had not "put his hands on anyone on this
occasion" and "didn't approach anyone in a threatening manner."
"Where is our compassion as a society?" she demanded.
[Oh, the irony!]
They've got all the compassion in the world for a mentally-ill man that
was threatening subway passengers - and for their own delicate
sensibilities - but not a shred for the passengers on that subway car or
the Good Samaritan that came to their rescue and had to endure umpteen
months of criminal proceedings, not knowing if he was going to have to
spend a major chunk of his life in prison.
If there was true karma in the world, Sunny Hostin would someday find herself
confronted by a violent drug addict intent on killing her and have everyone
around her stand by and just watch it happen because they've been taught that
if they intervene and try to help, the state will attempt to destroy their
lives.
Ubiquitous
2024-12-16 09:30:45 UTC
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"Where is our compassion as a society?" she demanded.
[Oh, the irony!]
They've got all the compassion in the world for a mentally-ill man that
was threatening subway passengers - and for their own delicate
sensibilities - but not a shred for the passengers on that subway car or
the Good Samaritan that came to their rescue and had to endure umpteen
months of criminal proceedings, not knowing if he was going to have to
spend a major chunk of his life in prison.
If there was true karma in the world, Sunny Hostin would someday find
herself confronted by a violent drug addict intent on killing her and have
everyone around her stand by and just watch it happen because they've been
taught that if they intervene and try to help, the state will attempt to
destroy their lives.
"Yeah, that would make me laugh..."

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BTR1701
2024-12-11 18:16:40 UTC
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The hosts of ABC's THE VIEW, for the most part, were less than thrilled
that a New York jury acquitted Marine veteran Daniel Penny on Monday in the
death of Jordan Neely -- who boasted an impressive rap sheet, and had been
verbally threatening people on the subway before Penny stepped in.
Cohost Whoopi Goldberg began by arguing that Penny was somehow out of line
when he went to a bar in Manhattan to celebrate his acquittal. She added that
she believed the overall outcome of the case was proof that the justice
system had failed.
Goldberg went on to say that she was bothered by the fact that the Marine
veteran had chosen to toast his freedom at a bar: "I don't know that seeing
them celebrating in a bar made me comfortable."
Because everyone should circumscribe their behavior to what does and does not
make Whoopi Goldberg comfortable.
She then addressed the verdict itself, arguing that it was a "failure of the
court" that Penny was not convicted. She said that Neely's behavior could
have stemmed from his mother's murder and argued that everyone -- from the
hospitals to the courts -- had failed him.
If someone is threatening my life, in the moment I have no ability to do a
deep dive on his backstory and find out what's motivating his behavior, and
even if I could, I don't give a shit. He's standing in front of me attempting
to harm me. If I could somehow psychically divine that he's doing it because
he traumatized by his mother's death, then what? I'm supposed to take one for
the team and let him kill me because "the system" failed him?
When cohost Joy Behar weighed in, she claimed Penny had held Neely in a choke
too long and should have known better. She also suggested that the whole
situation could have been avoided if people had simply sat on Neely instead.
Sitting on someone also restricts their ability to breathe, Joy, you
unmitigated hobgoblin. If someone had done that and Neely died, you'd be
calling them a murderer, too.
Ubiquitous
2024-12-16 09:30:46 UTC
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The hosts of ABC's THE VIEW, for the most part, were less than thrilled
that a New York jury acquitted Marine veteran Daniel Penny on Monday in the
death of Jordan Neely -- who boasted an impressive rap sheet, and had been
verbally threatening people on the subway before Penny stepped in.
Cohost Whoopi Goldberg began by arguing that Penny was somehow out of line
when he went to a bar in Manhattan to celebrate his acquittal. She added that
she believed the overall outcome of the case was proof that the justice
system had failed.
Goldberg went on to say that she was bothered by the fact that the Marine
veteran had chosen to toast his freedom at a bar: "I don't know that seeing
them celebrating in a bar made me comfortable."
Because everyone should circumscribe their behavior to what does and does not
make Whoopi Goldberg comfortable.
She then addressed the verdict itself, arguing that it was a "failure of
the court" that Penny was not convicted. She said that Neely's behavior
could have stemmed from his mother's murder and argued that everyone --
from the hospitals to the courts -- had failed him.
If someone is threatening my life, in the moment I have no ability to do a
deep dive on his backstory and find out what's motivating his behavior, and
even if I could, I don't give a shit. He's standing in front of me attempting
to harm me. If I could somehow psychically divine that he's doing it because
he traumatized by his mother's death, then what? I'm supposed to take one for
the team and let him kill me because "the system" failed him?
These are the same people who wonder why cops don't just shot criminals in thr
leg or hand.
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When cohost Joy Behar weighed in, she claimed Penny had held Neely in a
choke too long and should have known better. She also suggested that the
whole situation could have been avoided if people had simply sat on Neely
instead.
Sitting on someone also restricts their ability to breathe, Joy, you
unmitigated hobgoblin. If someone had done that and Neely died, you'd be
calling them a murderer, too.
Isn't that how Black Lies Matter started?

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Let's go Brandon!

The Horny Goat
2024-12-12 19:10:10 UTC
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Goldberg went on to say that she was bothered by the fact that the Marine
veteran had chosen to toast his freedom at a bar: "I don't know that seeing
them celebrating in a bar made me comfortable."
She then addressed the verdict itself, arguing that it was a "failure of the
court" that Penny was not convicted. She said that Neely's behavior could
have stemmed from his mother's murder and argued that everyone -- from the
hospitals to the courts -- had failed him.
Hey my father killed my mother by running over her with his motor home
back in 2005 and >I< didn't kill anybody.

(Seriously he did - and on his birthday no less - but was released by
the Tucson Sheriff's department after his interview with them. I'm not
convinced he had the mental capacity to be driving but Mom thought he
was....and allowed him to drive from Vancouver to Tucson during the
week before. Basically he hit the gas when he thought he was going for
the brake)

By THAT criteria (which I think is completely bogus) >I< should have
the right to do likewise.
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